American on Dirt Bike Kills Thai Woman Crossing Road in Chiang Mai

[TedG]

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

When you talk of "Trained Riders".

Are you speaking of equestrian training?

 

Nobody trains most motorcycle riders in the USA.

Who would train them?

Who would be willing to be trained?

Nobody.

 

They buy a bike and then.....it's just...

Born to be Free.....

On the open road.

 

Let's wait until we see his driving history before making a judgement one way or another.

Also, it's unfortunate that, so far, there is no video cam images.

 

If the tourist had stayed in America, then that old lady would still be alive.

And no need for anyone to say....sorry.

 

 

This is false.  You need a motorcycle endorsement on your license in the USA. Which requires a class.  

[TedG]

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

What a piece of junk.

This, actually, does not even look roadworthy.

And, it must be very loud.

So, I would bet the old lady heard this bike, and it was the last sound she heard.

 

I think it is very frustrating to consider that an old lady may have been rundown by a speeder, and one from another country.

 

Still, one must wait for the facts.

And, one hopes that the facts will surface in this case.

 

What makes you think it’s not road worthy? 

[fredwiggy]

10 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Speed kills.

That is a fact

It's rather incompetent driving that kills the most, along with drinking, which is something you've mentioned you do, but it's okay because you drive slower. Not.  Excessive speed in areas where it isn't safe, in cramped conditions , around schools, downtown, two lane roads through villages, and the like also causes accidents because of the reduced reaction time to avoid them.

[ravip]

16 hours ago, TedG said:

If you walk into traffic without looking, it’s your fault.  

Lovely reasoning. Should get it included in the law books internationally .

[khunJam]

7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Your content hardly presents a critically balanced mind.

 

Your comments have already betrayed your biased ideas that foreigners are always at fault.

 

 

While the American 'could be at fault' there is no evidence or information which highlights that, other than Malcoms fabrications from a FaceBook thread. 

 

I might add, neither is there any evidence or information which highlights the lady was at fault. 

 

 

 

 

The evidence is crystal clear…the wreckless rider killed somebody walking and he admitted to it. Besides the lady did not hit the motorcycle.

[cdemundo]

21 hours ago, CLW said:

Why do so many people blame the driver for the death of the pedestrian? What's the legal speed limit on that road. 50 km/h ? Just assume he was driving with that speed and the old lady crossed the road without looking for traffic (as many people do here btw), the collision can be fatal as well. So without further evidence from witnesses or camera footage it's easy to blame the driver for no reason....

I think the fact that he was charged with "reckless driving causing death" enters into it.

[fredwiggy]

8 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

People have written PM messages regarding you and arguing with them. 
Your constant name calling of everyone. I think it might be time to pull your head in a bit mate. 

In your case, you call names after being proven wrong, which is a childish attitude much like the narcissist that never grew past age 5. Saying a few times I'm illiterate without showing any proof of this, as I always go by facts or just offer possibilities of a scenario, like this one. Opinions mean nothing, so I don't make them. If I have some knowledge on a particular subject, I offer it to help. Wisdom, knowledge and not opinions. I'd like to see these PM's that people supposedly send to you, as you wouldn't see anyone else's PM's without their permission. People argue here, and some ,like you, are corrected, but never admit it.

[fredwiggy]

9 minutes ago, khunJam said:

The evidence is crystal clear…the wreckless rider killed somebody walking and he admitted to it. Besides the lady did not hit the motorcycle.

Like another mentioned, being charged with an offense doesn't mean there will be a conviction. That's what the police do, assuming what happened until real evidence is shown. We don't see where he admitted anything but only showed he was sorry it happened, like anyone should be in this case. It may have been his fault, and it may have been hers, or both. Until there is more evidence , there is only conjecture.

[JoePai]

14 hours ago, khunJam said:

The guy hit and killed someone, lunatic enough for you?

Please stop being silly

[JoePai]

12 hours ago, cdemundo said:

"Police have indicated they will charge him with reckless driving causing death."

 

There is an implication here.

Not at all, it's the standard Police response

[Moonlover]

Amazing isn't it. There have been more posts and pages in one day on this relatively minor incident than have been on the major disaster that took place in Korea 6 days ago.

 

This post 14 pages 400 posts

 

Disaster in Korea  12 pages 342 posts

 

What does that say about the mind set of this forum I wonder.

[Ralf001]

10 hours ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

The term "dirt bike" can cover a wide variety of off-road motorcycles, including many that are perfectly road-legal.  

 

The term usually means a motorcycle designed for off-road capabilities whether licensed for road use or not. 

The CRF300 is marketed as a dual sport motorcycle for on and off road riding.

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

12 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

The CRF300 is marketed as a dual sport motorcycle for on and off road riding.

 

Yes.

[Franky0815]

Where I live, a child ran into my motorcycle as I was starting up and tripped over the front tire. During the entire process, this stupid child was staring at his cell phone. His parents were walking right behind the child. Everyone just looked at stupidly! So much stupidity, ignorance, irresponsibility and misjudgment of the dangers in Thai traffic all at once can end up badly...

[thailand49]

What he did was wrong!  But will he get what the person who killed the Doctor in Bangkok crosswalk get? Police?  He was going 110 KM/H.

[ChaiyaTH]

Got intel that he is needing to pay a lot of moneys to settle. If not jail.

[ChaiyaTH]

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

Amazing isn't it. There have been more posts and pages in one day on this relatively minor incident than have been on the major disaster that took place in Korea 6 days ago.

 

This post 14 pages 400 posts

 

Disaster in Korea  12 pages 342 posts

 

What does that say about the mind set of this forum I wonder.

What are you even trying to say? That is foreign news, they also kill dozens of people daily in 30 other countries. This is a local thing and when a foreigner kills someone on a bike, that is simply news.

 

He <deleted> himself up big time by getting a photo on his knees, now it got media attention big time. If he did not do that or that photo would not been made, people already had forgotten by now.

[Rampant Rabbit]

9 hours ago, it is what it is said:

 

I see  some awful behaviour from Thais on the roads 

 

this statement needs amending, if you'd been here longer, and/or didn't have a one eyed view, you'd know the awful behaviour on thai roads is absolutely not restricted only to thais, i see plenty of westerners behaving appallingly on the roads here, endangering themselves and others. 

Last time I checked Id swear there were considerably more Thais  on the road than foreigners which is why Id see more  bad behaviour from them. Ive been here 147 years.

[fredwiggy]

3 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Last time I checked Id swear there were considerably more Thais  on the road than foreigners which is why Id see more  bad behaviour from them. Ive been here 147 years.

Are you Imhotep?

[Rampant Rabbit]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Are you Imhotep?

I come in pieces not peace

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

There appears to be some man in black and wearing sunglasses smiling in the background.

 

There appears to be a cop (blocked by the woman in colorful dress) with an expression on his face that suggests a smile.

 

The posture of the standing American does not jibe with the posture of one in grief and shock who just ran over a pedestrian and killed them.

 

Given the above, the prostrate American might be acting.

 

That is not a verdict - only conjecture.

 

Inconclusive till further evidence is produced.

[cdemundo]

2 hours ago, Moonlover said:

Amazing isn't it. There have been more posts and pages in one day on this relatively minor incident than have been on the major disaster that took place in Korea 6 days ago.

 

This post 14 pages 400 posts

 

Disaster in Korea  12 pages 342 posts

 

What does that say about the mind set of this forum I wonder.

It is more directly related to the lives of forum members than the incident in Korea.

Doesn't say that much.

[Moonlover]

31 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

What are you even trying to say? That is foreign news, they also kill dozens of people daily in 30 other countries. This is a local thing and when a foreigner kills someone on a bike, that is simply news.

 

He <deleted> himself up big time by getting a photo on his knees, now it got media attention big time. If he did not do that or that photo would not been made, people already had forgotten by now.

Ok so I'll swing it around a bit. Last week a Thai family of 6 was wiped out in a pick up accident. That attracted just 2 posts!

 

That was local news too and a whole lot more tragic than this one.

[ChaiyaTH]

8 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Ok so I'll swing it around a bit. Last week a Thai family of 6 was wiped out in a pick up accident. That attracted just 2 posts!

 

That was local news too and a whole lot more tragic than this one.

It's an expat / foreigner forum, I guess you really don't get it so never mind.

[Cabradelmar]

It's going to cost more than some groveling and a few wai (he ain't Thai). 

[fredwiggy]

23 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Ok so I'll swing it around a bit. Last week a Thai family of 6 was wiped out in a pick up accident. That attracted just 2 posts!

 

That was local news too and a whole lot more tragic than this one.

Deaths on Thai roads are a daily occurrence, many times in all provinces,but this involved a foreigner so it makes the news all over.

[CLW]

23 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

 

Thai people often play "frogger" crossing the road and inch out slowly and wait until the vehicle passes them. This can really confuse tourists that don't know if they're going to fully cross or not so they swerve around trying to avoid each other.

 

I almost hit a person once years ago because I didn't understand this. Eventually I ended up totally stopping in the middle of the road and the guy was so confused as to why I didn't just keep going.

Yeah, I really hate that. Cars do the same here. Creeping out slowly instead of waiting and going 

[MalcolmB]

3 hours ago, Moonlover said:

What does that say about the mind set of this forum I wonder.

We are all a bit strange, some stranger than others.

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Deaths on Thai roads are a daily occurrence, many times in all provinces,

Not true, not all provinces have deaths daily.

 

[nickmondo]

why are so many of you blaming the man?

there is a huge chance that she just walked onto the road without looking, probably 99% chance of that.

Thai people always do this, none of them have a clue about road safety.

CCTV footage will be vital in this case.