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Yes, Virginia, Donald J. Trump WILL be the first convicted felon to become U.S. president


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Posted
11 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

The thing is, all this nonsense about Trump being a "convicted felon" only really matters to people who hate Trump.  They say it, then other people who also hate Trump say "Yeah, that's right!".  Meanwhile, anyone with half a brain knows that the action was politically motivated and Biden could have been up on multiple charges if those in power had wanted to charge him.

 

Nobody cares and these daily sore loser posts are just pointless.  🤷‍♂️

Lol, trump cares.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, proton said:

 

How do you know?

Why do you think he keeps on shouting on SM and appealing his cases?

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Posted
9 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Why do you think he keeps on shouting on SM and appealing his cases?

 

Why ignore injustice, persecution and vindictiveness?

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Posted
3 hours ago, jas007 said:

Get a grip on reality.  That may be hard, but you should try.  If you can't see what has been happening, you're one of the propaganda victims.  I'm not worried about history, one way or the other. 

I have a firm clear gripe on facts and reality  but apparently you dont or deny facts. I grew up in the trump era and watch what a liar and POS he is and all the fraud he committed without a care about anyone he affected. you're about to see round 2, as he was a train wreck the first time and will repeat that performance just like everything else he's done in his life 

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3 minutes ago, Dan O said:

I have a firm clear gripe on facts and reality  but apparently you dont or deny facts. I grew up in the trump era and watch what a liar and POS he is and all the fraud he committed without a care about anyone he affected. you're about to see round 2, as he was a train wreck the first time and will repeat that performance just like everything else he's done in his life 

It'll be much worse this time.

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Posted
8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Under an odd quirk of New York state law, a person found guilty of a felony or many felonies as in the case of the president elect, can't technically be an actual CONVICTED felon until sentencing.

Do you have a reputable source you used to inform your opinion?

I would appreciate reading your source.  Everything I have read from NY state practices and procedures runs counter to your statement.

 

The other factor that lends weight to the accuracy of Trump being convicted is that he has not sued ANY of the many news outlets that repeatedly describe him as being convicted.  Do you perhaps think he has abandoned his litigious demeanor?

Posted
47 minutes ago, proton said:

 

How do you know?

Being descended from several generations of teachers, I always said... there is no such thing as a dumb question!

Never say never!

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9 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Do you have a reputable source you used to inform your opinion?

I would appreciate reading your source.  Everything I have read from NY state practices and procedures runs counter to your statement.

 

The other factor that lends weight to the accuracy of Trump being convicted is that he has not sued ANY of the many news outlets that repeatedly describe him as being convicted.  Do you perhaps think he has abandoned his litigious demeanor?

Yes.

1:24

 

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Posted
26 minutes ago, Dan O said:

I have a firm clear gripe on facts and reality  but apparently you dont or deny facts. I grew up in the trump era and watch what a liar and POS he is and all the fraud he committed without a care about anyone he affected. you're about to see round 2, as he was a train wreck the first time and will repeat that performance just like everything else he's done in his life 

Assume this: I'm not a Trump supporter, necessarily, but I abhor the alternative.  

 

I believe in free speech.  I 'm not in favor of totalitarian dictatorships.  And I happen to believe that the US Constitution is a good document, particularly the Bill of Rights.  The people who drafted it knew what they were doing.

 

So, if the alternative to the authoritarian nut jobs is Trump, then so be it. 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes.

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I would put more faith in the documentation published by the NY State department of Justice than I would place in that speaker.  I  didn't save the link to that information.  It will take me while to find it again.

 

Here's the quote from one source: conviction:   In a criminal case.  A finding of guilt either by plea or by trial.

found here: https://nycourts.gov/Courthelp/goingtocourt/glossary.shtml

 

There's a better source than that glossary.  I'll find it soon.

 

https://www.nycourts.gov/courthelp/criminal/caseBasicsCriminal.shtml

 

Posted
15 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Assume this: I'm not a Trump supporter, necessarily, but I abhor the alternative.  

 

I believe in free speech.  I 'm not in favor of totalitarian dictatorships.  And I happen to believe that the US Constitution is a good document, particularly the Bill of Rights.  The people who drafted it knew what they were doing.

 

So, if the alternative to the authoritarian nut jobs is Trump, then so be it. 

So Trump is not authoritarian?

I can't even process that.

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9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Your opinion.

The fact remains -- he will be the first convicted felon president.

Meaning he is subject to the same rules as all other convicted felons.

For example, he will be unable to vote in Florida.

Of course convicted felons are banned from travelling to most countries.

It's fair to assume that will be magically ignored as long as he is president.

Trump will be able to vote in Florida (or NY).  The Florida statute says that for out of state felony convictions, the citizen may vote if the state where the conviction occurred would allow the citizen to vote.  The NY statue regarding felony voters states that as long as the felon is not incarcerated, they are allowed to vote.  Ergo --> NY allows Trump to vote so Florida affords him the same privilege.

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Posted
23 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So Trump is not authoritarian?

I can't even process that.

Take a log vacation.  Clear your brain.  Maybe it will reset. 

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Posted
7 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

No worries because Trump will soon be able to pardon himself.

 

Bzzzzzzzt.... next!

The charges and convictions were in NY State court.  Trump can only pardon convictions on US Federal charges.

Posted
1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

It'll be much worse this time.

 

26 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

For the Democrats.

For everyone but the Trump aligned billionaires and useful lapdogs/idiots.

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Posted
8 hours ago, riclag said:


@jas007 did you know that All are Democrat prosecutors , Democrat judges & a Democrat administration hell bent on destroying the Tradition of never persecuting political rivals .

 

 

To show how  deranged the cultural  Marxist in the Democrat party have become , they wanted to take away Trumps Secret Service protection ,soon there after a Dem supporter wanted to assassinate Trump in Florida!

Ryan Wesley Routh

 

https://democrats-homeland.house.gov/imo/media/doc/disgraced_former_protectees_act_factsheet1.pdf

 

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/democrats-tried-to-strip-trumps-secret-service-protections-just-months-before-assassination-attempt/

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe Khan Academy or some other site offers a course on Marxism, so one day you might actually know what it means.

 

By the way, if 47 actually intends to pardon the terrorists who stormed the Capitol, injured 140 cops, and engaged in wanton destruction while hoping to hang the Vice President and overthrow democracy, Biden should pardon Ryan Wesley Routh. Seems fair.

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Posted
8 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Do I sense a bit of racism?  Being foreign born is not necessarily a bad thing.

Not at all. Terminator might have made a great president. Too bad he wasn't born in US and is as such not eligible to run.

 

Posted
7 hours ago, jas007 said:

No.  Anyway, at this point, they're not hurting Trump.  He's in his late 70s and he is the President elect of the United States.  Convicting Trump at this point just damages the USA.  

 

When they write the history books, this nonsense will be highlighted, along with the McCarthy hearings, the Salem Witch trials. and Hitler's concentration camps. . 

1 "witchhunt' civil sexual assault conviction + 1 "witchhunt" bank and insurance fraud conviction + 1 "witchhunt" charity fraud conviction + 1 "witchhunt" indictment for "defrauding the United States" (his Jan 6 and fake elector scheme, plus 1 "witchhunt" State charge in Georgia for (just find me...11,780 votes), plus 2 "witchhunt" defamation suits, plus 1 "witchhunt" indictment for stealing hundreds of documents classified TS/SCI, Codeword, SAP, HCS, RD, RH, etc. somehow equals "Hitler's Concentration Camps" that resulted in the deaths of 6 million people? Wow, the insanity runs deep in the MAGA cult.

 

Is it possible that the guy is just a career criminal? I know that's sacrilege to cult members, but if I took even one TS/SCI document out of Langley o any of my overseas Stations, I would be in jail awaiting trial, even if I did it to work at home and had a safe to store it.

 

I'm still trying to figure out how the guy even got his hands on HCS documents (Human Clandestine Sources). Even his lackey DNIs (Ratcliffe and Grenell) did not have access to HCS, nor does any POTUS normally (POTUSs are just told "a source with direct access whose previous reporting has proven highly reliable"). Also, no way Gina Haspel would have given him those. It seems to me now he had a source inside the agency. THAT guy should be in jail.

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