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British Holidaymaker, 28, Dies in Motorbike Crash in Thailand: Twin Pays Tribute


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Posted
26 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

He is another human being like all of us!

 

Nobody deserves to die for an error of judgment that some foreigners make while in Thailand.

 

If it is your son, you have no sympathy if he dies, even if it was caused by stupidity??

 

More than 50% of Thais don;t wear helmets; most of them will be lucky and will never have an accident,

 

I feel for his twin brother and all his family!

 

 

That "error in judgement" puts all other road users in danger. It was selfish and incompetent riding for which he paid the ultimate price. Sad for his family but when I first saw the clip a couple of days ago I thought another moron on our roads with no consideration for anyone else. Would you be so sympathetic if he had taken out a woman with a young child on a bike along with himself?

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1 hour ago, couchpotato said:

Right or not...why should others be expected to pay for foolishness.

 

Others aren't 'expected to pay'....  others can pay voluntarily if they wish... 

 

I agree with the comments regarding lack of insurance and no helmet - but if he wasn't licensed, his insurance would have covered him anyway, in fact I think most Travel Insurance policies have a no motorcycle policy.

 

 

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Even with full awareness, trying to dot the I's and cross the T's, I nearly got caught out last year when encountering an injury while overseas - My travel Insurance (with extra winter sports cover) paid for medical costs while overseas - I needed an operation which I opted to have in Thailand rather than while overseas.

The same insurance would have covered all operation expenses while overseas (very expensive), but would not cover them one back Thailand (point of residence). Luckily, my main Heath Insurance policy covered expensive operation in Thailand - but I was not sure if it would cover 'winter sports injuries' as the policy wording was extremely vague (which is why I took out the travel insurance in the first place)

 

My point there was that I thought I'd covered for every eventuality, but still very nearly got caught short believing travel insurance would cover me for injuries and followup treatment.

 

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We have young family travelling througout Asia at the moment - I've warned them about motorcycle travel, yet I bet at some point they've been on a bike - its just young kids, its what they do - they don't see the danger. I didn't when I was young.

 

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Regarding body repatriation - I get that 'some' families are spiritual / religious and want a full burial. However, at that cost I would consider local cremation and then transporting the ashes back - surely thats better all round (unless for some reason the family remain instant on a fully burial).

 

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This is a tragic story all round - but young people will still do what young people do. Its difficult to get them to change. 

At least this is covered in all the UK media - so I hope it reaches all the social media the younger generations read and they are more aware of such risks. 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, bradiston said:

I went to renew my bike insurance yesterday here in Pattaya. The most I could insure myself for, for accidental personal damage was 20k THB. That's what they call first class insurance. The other party was covered for 50k. Without my medical insurance, in patient only, might as well stick with the compulsory 300 THB government cover. This policy cost me 4,230 THB. I guess it's a snip. So I don't know what kind of insurance foreigners can get to cover these monster bills we read about. Surely the premium would be more than the cost of the holiday?

Did you really? Compulsory insurance is 645 baht. Second class insurance on my bike cost 2,400 baht. 500,000 baht for each injured person, 10,000,000 baht maximum for each accident and 600,000 baht for property damage. You need to change insurance companies.

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3 hours ago, couchpotato said:

Sad...BUT no helmet and no travel insurance, so really no sympathy....why do people come to for holidays in Thailand without some type of insurance.. baffling.  Also not wearing a helmut is plain stupid.

I totally agree with u.. people go to Thailand without travelinsurance is stupid.They cant afford to pay 200 pound a year for that but go to holidays and driving around without helmet.And after the family go to the net asking for 35.000 pounds.No thanks..im not give anything to rise their needs.

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1 hour ago, bradiston said:

I went to renew my bike insurance yesterday here in Pattaya. The most I could insure myself for, for accidental personal damage was 20k THB. That's what they call first class insurance. The other party was covered for 50k. Without my medical insurance, in patient only, might as well stick with the compulsory 300 THB government cover. This policy cost me 4,230 THB. I guess it's a snip. So I don't know what kind of insurance foreigners can get to cover these monster bills we read about. Surely the premium would be more than the cost of the holiday?

 

 

Easy answer.

 

Keep off big bikes when on holiday, in fact in Asia, keep off all two wheeled transport.

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Where do people get off where they feel they can ask friends, acquaintances and strangers for a fancy 35K repatriation, when the person in question couldn't be bothered to seek and buy insurance??

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Sad news and I'm sure everyone here would say sorry hear about the families loss!

 

However, when will tourists coming to Asia ever learn?  Riding a motor bike, no helment, no protection etc, etc, etc.  Likely not a motor bike rider at home.  Maybe tourists will never learn, they think being on holiday and in a different counry they are made of steel.

 

RIP young man, another life wasted that very possibly could have been avoided.

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Posted
1 hour ago, ChrisKC said:

He is another human being like all of us!

 

Nobody deserves to die for an error of judgment that some foreigners make while in Thailand.

 

If it is your son, you have no sympathy if he dies, even if it was caused by stupidity??

 

More than 50% of Thais don;t wear helmets; most of them will be lucky and will never have an accident,

 

I feel for his twin brother and all his family!

 

 

 

It's not the death or lack of sympathy, it's the constant stream of begging and Go Fund Me on here and all social media that annoys people.

 

 He could have done something to totally take away this stress from himself and his family..........................GOT INSURANCE!

 

50% and probably more Thais don't wear helmets, you are right, but they aren't on the Go fund me bandwagon either.

 

28 years old is not young and stupid, he is old enough to know better and is a man.

 

It is reckless as regards to doing something the rest of us build in to the cost of a holiday.......INSURANCE.

 

My family are regularly over here, and I witter at them about insurance, even on occasions, I get backlash from them saying to me ' Do you think we are stupid? '

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1 hour ago, ChrisKC said:

He is another human being like all of us!

 

Nobody deserves to die for an error of judgment that some foreigners make while in Thailand.

 

If it is your son, you have no sympathy if he dies, even if it was caused by stupidity??

 

More than 50% of Thais don;t wear helmets; most of them will be lucky and will never have an accident,

 

I feel for his twin brother and all his family!

 

 

At least someone shows respect at such an unfortunate moment. 

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Many of us drive motorcycles or scooters here, and it is dangerous getting on the roads with some of these other drivers.

Getting on a scooter, or a motorcycle anywhere in Thailand, much less Phuket, Phangan, Dark Tao, or Samui without a very good helmet, is like playing Russian Roulette with three or four bullets in the chamber. It is absolutely asking for problems. The degree of recklessness here is astounding. And many foreigners come here thinking "how much trouble could I get in on a little scooter, on a tropical island"? Well, the answer is alot. The amount of foreigners who are killed on the Southern islands is staggering. Most are not reported in the media. I had a friend who worked for Samui rescue for many years, and said the numbers were about 30-60 a month, on Samui, Phangan and Koh Tao. The official number is about 3 a month. Rider beware. Use as good a helmet as you can afford, and do not use these eggshells pieces of crap. They crack at the first impact, and what lies underneath them? Your skull, which is very delicate.

 

I have been riding bikes for 49 years. Without any serious accidents. A few minor ones over the years. Riding a bike here is very dangerous. If not the highest, one of the highest fatality rates in the world. And an accident here can be very costly, to your person. Just ask yourself- do I have enough problems already, without a broken skull, or smashed head, or face injury, or lost eye? I have three friends who have been in motorbike accidents on Samui within the last several years. One still cannot walk, or talk or function on her own, from a motorbike accident, where she hit her head on the pavement going only 20 kph. The other one has lost alot of his mental capacity after hitting his head. He insisted for years he would never wear a helmet. Now, he seems 15 years older. The third one is a close friend, who was hit by a sidecar, and nearly lost his leg. 11 operations later, he can walk, but with a limp, and the leg caused him constant problems, many years later. 

 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

 

It's not the death or lack of sympathy, it's the constant stream of begging and Go Fund Me on here and all social media that annoys people.

 

 He could have done something to totally take away this stress from himself and his family..........................GOT INSURANCE!

 

50% and probably more Thais don't wear helmets, you are right, but they aren't on the Go fund me bandwagon either.

 

28 years old is not young and stupid, he is old enough to know better and is a man.

 

It is reckless as regards to doing something the rest of us build in to the cost of a holiday.......INSURANCE.

 

My family are regularly over here, and I witter at them about insurance, even on occasions, I get backlash from them saying to me ' Do you think we are stupid? '

My post does not sympathise with a dead man!

 

This post is about ONE case of "begging and Go Fund Me"

 

I have used the word stupidity that demonstrates I understand the man was foolish

 

My greatest sympathy lies with the untold grief he has left behind and it is not their fault.  it's obvious you have no feelings for them, only intent on compounding it with excessive righteousness!

 

Hindsight - never around when you need it!

 

 

Posted
29 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

when the person in question couldn't be bothered to seek and buy insurance??

Maybe he did, but they don't sell insurance covering illegally riding a motorbike.

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Posted
1 hour ago, alanrchase said:

Did you really? Compulsory insurance is 645 baht. Second class insurance on my bike cost 2,400 baht. 500,000 baht for each injured person, 10,000,000 baht maximum for each accident and 600,000 baht for property damage. You need to change insurance companies.

I paid 550 THB for 1 year tax and one year compulsory insurance. Maybe I'm wrong about the 1st class payout. I haven't received the cover note or policy docs yet. Just a quick scan of the Thai version. I went to Macallan on Tai. Somebody else recommended it on the forum. A big office, 6 or 7 people working at desks. Good English spoken. I'll recheck when I get the docs.

Posted
2 hours ago, damo1967 said:

They should shut that GoFundMe request down... just for the pure stupidity.

It's hard to believe that people contribute to go fund me.

Travel Insurance would be fairly useless unless expensive option taken. Need correct license, helmet ECT also one would think.

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The rental company should be made to contribute if he didn't have proper licence ( depending on who is owner)

Would not be surprised to find out they are holding on to his passport ( for safekeeping in case of damages)

Posted
1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

Storing the body in Thailand will be running up costs. IF determined to bring the body back, makes sense to act quickly.

 

Why hurry?

 

Larger bills generate more sympathy on gogriftme.

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Posted
20 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Why hurry?

 

Larger bills generate more sympathy on gogriftme.

I suggest they just do what the locals do and cremate the body, then the ashes can be easily and cheaply transported back home. 

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