British Holidaymaker, 28, Dies in Motorbike Crash in Thailand: Twin Pays Tribute

[Scouse123]

14 hours ago, ronster said:

I'm guessing the amount they are trying to raise is including the cost of UK funeral included in repatriation.

Cost of a burial plot , decent coffin and a wake at somewhere good will probably be 10-15000gbp in UK.

 

I'd like to go on a world cruise in the next year with my other half, I think I'll set up a GoFundMe and state what a lousy life I've had and no savings.

 

Is that how it works?

 

It's as bad as foreign begpackers hanging on the streets of Bangkok asking for money so they can fly to their next destination.

[Scouse123]

19 hours ago, ChrisKC said:

My post does not sympathise with a dead man!

 

This post is about ONE case of "begging and Go Fund Me"

 

I have used the word stupidity that demonstrates I understand the man was foolish

 

My greatest sympathy lies with the untold grief he has left behind and it is not their fault.  it's obvious you have no feelings for them, only intent on compounding it with excessive righteousness!

 

Hindsight - never around when you need it!

 

 

 

Foreign country, no licence, absolutely zero insurance of any kind, No safety helmet.

 

You don't need a lot of hindsight to work out the worst case scenario.

[Captain Flack]

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[ChrisKC]

49 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

 

Foreign country, no licence, absolutely zero insurance of any kind, No safety helmet.

 

You don't need a lot of hindsight to work out the worst case scenario.

You haven't said anything yet that denies me any of my comments! YOUR comments however, continues about the dead!!

 

Have some thoughts for the mess he has left behind!!

[ChrisKC]

1 hour ago, Scouse123 said:

 

 

No righteousness whatsoever.

 

Common sense, you go on holiday, you get insurance.

 

Insurance is part and parcel of travelling.

 

GOFundMe has become the fallback of the feckless, and it's almost a foregone conclusion these days, that in accidents when death occurs, especially younger travellers, they are uninsured.

 

This was an accident waiting to happen, riding a bike with no helmet, or insurance in a world renowned dangerous hotspot for bike riders.

 

GoFundMe campaigns stared out for the genuinely desperate who had unforeseen accidents or situations through no fault of their own.

 

Where does a person's responsibility for travelling start and finish?

 

Here we have a situation where he just hasn't bothered obtaining any kind of insurance but managed to get himself to Thailand, book his accommodation, find his transport to his destination, So, he is not stupid or in need of assistance understanding things.

 

Feelings for his family??  

 

They are just empty words on a faceless messageboard, that can be bandied about.

 

Do I like seeing things like this on the board, No, I don't, it's sad and unfortunate.

 

We can write whatever we want on an anonymous board, and your anonymous feelings won't bring him back nor be of any comfort.

Your callous remarks deserve the derision I give to them.

[ronster]

1 hour ago, Scouse123 said:

 

I'd like to go on a world cruise in the next year with my other half, I think I'll set up a GoFundMe and state what a lousy life I've had and no savings.

 

Is that how it works?

 

It's as bad as foreign begpackers hanging on the streets of Bangkok asking for money so they can fly to their next destination.

Yip pretty much some of these are people saying they just want a holiday etc and people donate 😄🙈

[Scouse123]

12 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

Your callous remarks deserve the derision I give to them.

 

Suit yourself, but there appear to be plenty on the board that share my view.

[ChipButty]

23 hours ago, Seppius said:

Even if he had insurance, doubt they would pay anything, wonder what sort of bike it was?

 

No helmet, and probably not a legal licence for Thailand

From what I could see just a normal bike click or similar, but no helmet for sure

[BangkokReady]

9 hours ago, alanrchase said:

Not sure what you mean. I get the compulsory government insurance at one of the local vehicle inspection places and the second class insurance on Roojai. I used to go to the local office of an insurance company for the optional insurance but find it more convenient with Roojai now.

 

Ok, so the second class one is additional and you get it online from Roojai.

 

Got it. Thanks.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 1/7/2025 at 11:46 AM, Scouse123 said:

At his age, insurance for travel and accident would have been very cheap.

Yes, but it wouldn't have included illegal motorcycling so they'd still have the repatriation costs.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 1/7/2025 at 12:04 PM, Dmaxdan said:

He may have had travel insurance but presumably didn't feel the need to pay extra and buy a policy that would cover riding motorcycles.

 

"Now, we face the unimaginable costs of repatriation without travel or life insurance.”

[Liverpool Lou]

On 1/7/2025 at 12:24 PM, Sheryl said:

Possible he had insurance. Failure to wear helmet would invalidate it anyhow.

"Now, we face the unimaginable costs of repatriation without travel or life insurance.”

[Will B Good]

Cremate over here, pop the urn in the post....job done.....?

[Liverpool Lou]

18 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Though I am generally in favour of free speech, I would support the removal of all messages insulting him, it's just in really bad taste IMO.

Great idea, censor the posts that you don't agree with.  Have there been any posts "insulting him" or were they just criticism?

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

I'd like to go on a world cruise in the next year with my other half, I think I'll set up a GoFundMe and state what a lousy life I've had and no savings.

 

Is that how it works?

Yes, it is, the crowdfunding sites don't care what the purpose is as they take a cut .

[rattlesnake]

6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Great idea, censor the posts that you don't agree with.  Have there been any posts "insulting him" or were they just criticism?

 

It is elementary decency to refrain from calling a recently deceased person an idiot on a public thread which their family and friends could be reading.

[frank83628]

On 1/7/2025 at 11:17 AM, bkk6060 said:

Sad story.  He looks in great shape maybe had the macho man attitude nothing can hurt him, so why wear a helmet.

Very few wear helmets. Its not really enforced other than random road stops.

[frank83628]

5 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It is elementary decency to refrain from calling a recently deceased person an idiot on a public thread which their family and friends could be reading.

I very much doubt the family will be on here, a forum for miserable expats

[frank83628]

19 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Cremate over here, pop the urn in the post....job done.....?

I thought that was the norm. £35k sounds a lot, would travel insurance even cover that?

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I thought that was the norm. £35k sounds a lot, would travel insurance even cover that?

 

No chance of insurance cover with no helmet.

 

Watched a program about a guy, fell down the steps at a train station....hospital bill £10,000 ish.

 

Insurance company got hold of the CCTV, interviewed the people who had been out drinking with him....all undercover....established he had had four or five beers......left him to pick up his bill.

[rattlesnake]

12 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I very much doubt the family will be on here, a forum for miserable expats

 

Second result after googling his name + 'Thailand accident':

 

[Phillip9]

On 1/7/2025 at 10:56 AM, couchpotato said:

Sad...BUT no helmet and no travel insurance, so really no sympathy....why do people come to for holidays in Thailand without some type of insurance.. baffling. 

Travel insurance is mostly a scam.  It's not well regulated and they try everything they can to not pay.  It's not like real health insurance.  

 

I've been in several places over the years where I saw people who had travel insurance, but the insurer wouldn't pay in a time critical emergency and they had to pay out of pocket themselves.

 

You are much better off to save the money and self insure with your savings.

[KhunBENQ]

58 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Cremate over here, pop the urn in the post....job done.....?

Yes and if they want bring brother and other relatives(?) to attend cremation.

Won't cost 35k.

[Mises]

On 1/7/2025 at 4:46 AM, Scouse123 said:

At his age, insurance for travel and accident would have been very cheap.

 

However, it now falls to friends and strangers to pay for his mistakes.

Except all cheap travel insurance excludes riding motorbikes, even having had a full motorcycle for more than 40 years it was very difficult and costly to find any company that would insure me for a motor bike over 150cc

[GinBoy2]

21 hours ago, Upnotover said:

10 seconds on google and it's clear what the pricing should be, but certainly not $400 for a body from Thailand to the UK.  However as usual the story has virtually no information, doubtless many additional costs.  Nevertheless 35k is surely gouging in extremis.

Obviously not $400, but the point I was trying to make was that freight is always cheaper than a human sat in a seat on the same aircraft.

 

So just look at the price of a one way ticket from BKK-LHR and the freight charge on that same aircraft will be significantly  lower than that.

 

Add in the embalming costs, the inevitable Thai admin fees  etc, but still not even close to 34K.

 

I personally don't get the point of shipping corpses. 

 

If you need to bring loved ones home, cremation and take the ashes home in an urn in your carry on bag

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Second result after googling his name + 'Thailand accident':

 

So you think the family will be spending time on  Google looking for articles about their son?

[rattlesnake]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

So you think the family will be spending time on  Google looking for articles about their son?

 

Doesn't it seem possible to you that people who know him will be looking for information on the circumstances of his accident?

[Andre0720]

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[ChipButty]

15 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

Obviously not $400, but the point I was trying to make was that freight is always cheaper than a human sat in a seat on the same aircraft.

 

So just look at the price of a one way ticket from BKK-LHR and the freight charge on that same aircraft will be significantly  lower than that.

 

Add in the embalming costs, the inevitable Thai admin fees  etc, but still not even close to 34K.

 

I personally don't get the point of shipping corpses. 

 

If you need to bring loved ones home, cremation and take the ashes home in an urn in your carry on bag

I seem to remember there is a rule about carrying someone's ashes back on a plane, not as simple as putting it in your carry on bag, personally I don't see a problem, 

[ChipButty]

FFS whats going on another English guy found dead naked on Patong beach