Saigon Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Hi all, I did ask you the same question a few months ago, but at that time I was going to do this when I was staying at my Thai friend's but I started to wonder if it would be a better idea if I do it when I was staying in a hotel for just a few nights. In that case, will the hotel issue a TM30 to me before I can report to the Immigration Office for the transfer? Thank you in advance!
Upnotover Posted January 7 Posted January 7 They won't transfer it. Just take both passports when you leave the country. Or do you intend to extend your stay? 1
DrJack54 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 OP, covered here.... https://aseannow.com/topic/1329985-new-passport-how-to-leave-thailand/
Saigon Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 I nearlly forgot to tell you that I'm planning to leave Thailand by land, not by air.
Saigon Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 I just heard that it might be a bit of a hassle if you leave by land, though. I'm going to use the same land crossing when leaving as when entering, and would that make it a bit easier? Thank you 1
DrJack54 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 50 minutes ago, Saigon said: I'm going to use the same land crossing when leaving Which one
DrJack54 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Saigon said: I just heard that it might be a bit of a hassle if you leave by land, though. Here is thread. Take note of posts towards end from @Tod Daniels Seems can be problematic at land borders. Suggest you use minivan border run company and discuss with them. https://aseannow.com/topic/1334270-new-passport/
Caldera Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Saigon said: I just heard that it might be a bit of a hassle if you leave by land, though. You will need to check if it's even possible at the land border crossing you plan to leave from. Where you will re-enter doesn't matter, as your current entry stamp will need to be transferred when you leave Thailand. I'd consider flying out, as switching passports at the airport is guaranteed to be hassle-free. Did you get a 30-day extension or plan to get one? If you did get one already (in your old passport), the immigration office you used might be willing to transfer your stamps. If you plan to get one before leaving, the immigration office will have to transfer your entry stamp before processing the extension in your new passport. 1
Saigon Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 Thank you for all the comments. TBH, I'm a bit confused after reading them and the link by Tod. Apparently it'd be better to leave by air than by land to stay on the safe side. I'm not going to get a 30-day extension, and am going to use 'Chong Mek' in Ubon Ratchathani, a land crossing to Laos.
DrJack54 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 13 minutes ago, Saigon said: I'm not going to get a 30-day extension, and am going to use 'Chong Mek' in Ubon Ratchathani, a land crossing to Laos. Recent report.... https://aseannow.com/topic/1345002-chong-mek-border-bounce-report-30-nov-2024/#elControls_19418046_menu @transam any advice. Thinking you familiar with that crossing.
Saigon Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 Thanks very much for the report on 'Chong Mek.' I've actually used this land crossing on the Thai side very often, where the Thai Immigration Officials will ask the Lao people for a lot of money as Tea Money! I'm not yet sure if I can go through there with both my new & old passports, though.
transam Posted January 8 Posted January 8 The Thai immigration staff at Chong Mek have always been OK with me, 60 day entry no problem, though the last time I was asked where is your wife, I pointed over his shoulder and said "Gin kow" (eating) with a smile. They are very thorough, though. Don't think I have ever had a problem, except fined one time for being a couple of days late, but, smiles all round. As for the OP passport thingy, I have no idea. 🤗
Caldera Posted January 8 Posted January 8 18 hours ago, Saigon said: I'm not going to get a 30-day extension, and am going to use 'Chong Mek' in Ubon Ratchathani, a land crossing to Laos. It's not a very busy border crossing, so you should really try to check if they can do the passport transfer before you go. I don't think they'd reject it altogether, but what could happen is that they send you to an immigration office within Ubon Ratchathani province for the transfer, if nobody at the border can do it.
Saigon Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 Thanks for your advice. However, I have no idea how to check if they could do the transfer for me at Chong Mek, so maybe I should go to the land crossing, and might get sent back to the Immigration Office to do the transfer, before going back to the land crossing again. Is that what you mean? I'm afraid that they would probably ask you for Tea Money for the transfer at the Immigration Office, I'm afraid. Would they charge you for the transfer if you left Thailand by air? Maybe 500B or 1,000B?
DrJack54 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, Saigon said: Would they charge you for the transfer if you left Thailand by air? No
Caldera Posted January 9 Posted January 9 27 minutes ago, Saigon said: Thanks for your advice. However, I have no idea how to check if they could do the transfer for me at Chong Mek, so maybe I should go to the land crossing, and might get sent back to the Immigration Office to do the transfer, before going back to the land crossing again. Is that what you mean? I'm afraid that they would probably ask you for Tea Money for the transfer at the Immigration Office, I'm afraid. Would they charge you for the transfer if you left Thailand by air? Maybe 500B or 1,000B? It can be difficult to get a definitive answer before you go there. You could try calling the Chong Mek border crossing. If they answer the phone and understand your question, you might get to avoid an unnecessary trip. At a land border or in-country immigration office, it's not unheard of that they ask you for a "service fee" of 500-1000 baht. It's free at the airport. They have a special desk for that and you'll get sent there by the line IO you queued up to. It's a very quick and painless process at the airport.
kingstonkid Posted January 10 Posted January 10 On 1/9/2025 at 11:17 AM, Saigon said: Thanks for your advice. However, I have no idea how to check if they could do the transfer for me at Chong Mek, so maybe I should go to the land crossing, and might get sent back to the Immigration Office to do the transfer, before going back to the land crossing again. Is that what you mean? I'm afraid that they would probably ask you for Tea Money for the transfer at the Immigration Office, I'm afraid. Would they charge you for the transfer if you left Thailand by air? Maybe 500B or 1,000B? Where are you now go to immigration there and get it done. Why wait for border crossing
DrJack54 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 12 minutes ago, kingstonkid said: Where are you now go to immigration there and get it done. Why wait for border crossing Not every immigration office might be prepared to transfer the visa exempt stamp. Thinking no issue at CW or airport where stamp was issued. He could certainly try at his local office.
Pdavies99 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 By air is easy, just go out and on return the new passport will have the stamps and a reference to the old passport. However exiting by land could be full of issues as they really don't do old and new passports. It's a easy as that!
Saigon Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 Thanks very much for all your comments. I'd think it better, easier and safer to fly out with both my old and new passports. I'm coming back to Thailand by land via Chong Mek with my old passport and fly out of BKK or DMK with my new passport, and would you find any issues in that?
DrJack54 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 35 minutes ago, Saigon said: I'd think it better, easier and safer to fly out with both my old and new passports. Good plan. Out of interest fly to where..
Saigon Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 I'll probably fly to VN but might to China. I'm just lucky to be allowed to enter both of those 2 countries on visa-exemption, which I'd take advantage of. Thank you.
DrJack54 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 7 hours ago, Saigon said: I'll probably fly to VN but might to China. That's why I asked. Thinking you were living Vietnam at some point. A flight to Saigon for shortish stay and return via air to Thailand not an option? If concerned about risk entering visa exempt via air due to history you could consider "safe entry services" outlined in OP of this thread. https://aseannow.com/topic/1345519-safe-entry-services-bkk-airport/
kingstonkid Posted January 12 Posted January 12 On 1/10/2025 at 12:30 PM, DrJack54 said: Not every immigration office might be prepared to transfer the visa exempt stamp. Thinking no issue at CW or airport where stamp was issued. He could certainly try at his local office. That is why I asked I am sure Pat Phuket or CM or any immigration office can do it.
DrJack54 Posted January 12 Posted January 12 19 hours ago, kingstonkid said: That is why I asked I am sure Pat Phuket or CM or any immigration office can do it. It's not clear where the OP is located. Has oscillated between exit by land or air. Most recent statement... "I'd think it better, easier and safer to fly out with both my old and new passports" Exiting via airport has zero issue regarding entry stamp in old pp. Suggest he exits via air and take mini holiday out of Thailand (suggested Saigon) as he is familiar with that country. Return via air visa exempt. If worried about history in Thailand can use agent for "safe entry" mentioned earlier.
Saigon Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 I've been back in VN now. I left Thailand 1.5 years ago after having lived in The Kingdom for more than a decade with a Non-B, and then went to Laos for a while, where I learned great news that the VN government had just extended the period of the visa-exemption entry into the country from 15 days to 45 days. FYI, you can enter VN on visa-exemption as often as you want, and the VN Immigration will never ever stop you like the Thai Immigration! This 45-day scheme seems to be good till 14 March, unfortunately, though. I was going to renew my passport here in VN, but I'd then have to go to Ha Noi (1,000km from here) or Sai Gon (600km from here) for that and that twice! So I decided to come back to Thailand to renew it in BKK, where I did renew my last passport several years ago. I do miss some Thai food! I'd actually like to come back here from Thailand by land, which will be a 2 night / 2 day trip, while it'll be a 1 night / 1 day trip if I fly to Sai Gon and cost you 3 times as much! 555 I'm going to fly out of Bangkok with both my passports after I've got my new passport to stay on the safe side. Cheers 1
Saigon Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 Thank you for your confusion, though I don't even know who 'somebody' is.
kingstonkid Posted January 12 Posted January 12 12 hours ago, Saigon said: I've been back in VN now. I left Thailand 1.5 years ago after having lived in The Kingdom for more than a decade with a Non-B, and then went to Laos for a while, where I learned great news that the VN government had just extended the period of the visa-exemption entry into the country from 15 days to 45 days. FYI, you can enter VN on visa-exemption as often as you want, and the VN Immigration will never ever stop you like the Thai Immigration! This 45-day scheme seems to be good till 14 March, unfortunately, though. I was going to renew my passport here in VN, but I'd then have to go to Ha Noi (1,000km from here) or Sai Gon (600km from here) for that and that twice! So I decided to come back to Thailand to renew it in BKK, where I did renew my last passport several years ago. I do miss some Thai food! I'd actually like to come back here from Thailand by land, which will be a 2 night / 2 day trip, while it'll be a 1 night / 1 day trip if I fly to Sai Gon and cost you 3 times as much! 555 I'm going to fly out of Bangkok with both my passports after I've got my new passport to stay on the safe side. Cheers What embassy are you doing your passport at. I ask because some of them will keep your passport, so you should book into accommodations and plan not to do much travel or any activity that requires a passport to be shown. If you are using a CDN passport, and I imagine all the others are about the same, there will be a step in your old passport that tells immigration that it is part of a new passport. That being said, unless you want to take a quick trip to immigration offices in BKK to get the change done in your passport, then I would strongly suggest that you do your exit through DM or Swampy so that you can be assured that someone the\at knows is there to help you.
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