1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems there was a long and detailed inquiry, years ago.

And lots of changes were suggested by that inquiry.

And until now it seems few of those suggestions have been implemented.

 

Who asked for another inquiry before Musk opened his big mouth?

Who knows the details of the inquiry which was done already?

It's always easy to jump on a popular bandwagon without knowing the facts. 

The enquiry was not specifically into the Pakistani rape gang scandal. It had a much broader remit and the events in towns like Rotherham, Oldham and Telford were barely mentioned, if at all.

 

https://unherd.com/watch-listen/the-grooming-gang-fallout/

 

What is needed urgently is proper inquiry into who covered up these crimes and for what motives. Those culprits should be dealt with by the full force of the law.

 

 

Just read an article in the Times this morning with more alarming news about this obscene attempt at covering up the truth. Council areas where British-Pakistani men raped young white girls have endorsed an Islamophobia definition that views the phrase “Asian grooming gangs” as racist.

 

Oxford, Newcastle, Manchester and Calderdale are four local authorities to get behind a report that critics believe will silence whistleblowers trying to raise the alarm about child abuse.

 

Chris Philp, the shadow home secretary, said: “It’s bad enough to hear these ideas coming from the Labour Party, but it is an insult to the victims that the very same councils who covered up these appalling crimes are attempting to manipulate the definition of Islamophobia to make it forbidden to even talk about the rape gangs"

 

The British public are notoriously slow to get angry about anything, but this issue is now gaining real momentum. The government needs to announce a new and fully independent inquiry focusing solely on these Pakistani rape and torture gangs, and those that enabled them and covered them up. If they don’t do this, it may not be long unfortunately, before we see more rioting on the streets.

 

 

 

 

55 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

here is an example, over 1000 Pakistani vigilantes roaming the streets with the police nowhere to be seen, cant hurt their feelings you know.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1932397/Sky-News-reporter-UK-riots

 

 

Thanks. Such links are helpful

3 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

The British public are notoriously slow to get angry about anything, but this issue is now gaining real momentum. The government needs to announce a new and fully independent inquiry focusing solely on these Pakistani rape and torture gangs, and those that enabled them and covered them up. If they don’t do this, it may not be long unfortunately, before we see more rioting on the streets.

 

Brits are now extremely angry about the cover-up, thanks to Musk shedding light on the murky issues that the establishment hoped would stay in the dark. When you delve into the details of the abuse, the level of medieval barbarity is shocking in itself. But the fact that this was covered up for decades by police, local authorities and (mostly) Labour politicians so as 'not to rock the multicultural boat' has incensed the British sense of fair play.

 

Starmer will not get out of this one unscathed. My money says he'll be consigned to the dustbin of history before the end of the year.

2 hours ago, Tiger1980 said:

You do realize that you’re coming across as someone who would prefer for these events to be swept under the carpet. There is absolutely no excuse for there rape gangs and those who try to minimize the wrongdoing are by association just as guilty.

No, there is absolutely no excuse for these, or any other, rape gangs.

 

Three assertions you make are utter hogwash:

 

I do not ‘prefer these events (heinous crimes) be swept under the carpet’.

Nobody is trying to minimize the wrong doing (heinous crimes).

 

There is no guilt or association, the responsibility and guilt is entirely that of the individuals and gangs who committed these heinous crimes.

 

 

 

 

23 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No, there is absolutely no excuse for these, or any other, rape gangs.

 

Oh, no ….. “or any other” you just couldn’t help yourself could you ? unable to simply criticise these Pakistani rape gangs, which are the subject of the thread, you had to insert a little caveat.

 

So, well done for that, you have just won the far-left “proviso” award of the day ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

2 hours ago, sungod said:

 

If you doubt it, why not agree to a public inquiry?

I want a public inquiry, no idea what you are on about. 

12 hours ago, Social Media said:

Labour veteran Baroness Harriet Harman has proposed a targeted approach, suggesting a “mini-inquiry” to examine how council workers and police can better handle race and ethnicity-related challenges

 

I've got a suggestion there.
How about carrying out all investigations and prosecutions for all grooming and rapist gangs exactly the same. No matter what colour or ethnicity or religion.

51 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There is no guilt or association, the responsibility and guilt is entirely that of the individuals and gangs who committed these heinous crimes.

Once again trying to deny the fact that these heinous crimes were covered up by mostly Labour councils and police forces.

11 minutes ago, roquefort said:

Once again trying to deny the fact that these heinous crimes were covered up by mostly Labour councils and police forces.

He never denied that.

13 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

He never denied that.

No guilt by association? Has anyone ever been prosecuted for the cover up?

1 minute ago, roquefort said:

No guilt by association? Has anyone ever been prosecuted for the cover up?

Not yet that I know of but hopefully soon. 

Another off topic post removed @Neeranam These topics are about predominantly Muslim Pakistani gangs targeting white girls for sexual explotation. They are not about other forms of sexual abuse. Read the related topics in the original post for context.

 

Britons Overwhelmingly Support a New Grooming Gang Inquiry

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Oh, no ….. “or any other” you just couldn’t help yourself could you ? unable to simply criticise these Pakistani rape gangs, which are the subject of the thread, you had to insert a little caveat.

 

So, well done for that, you have just won the far-left “proviso” award of the day ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

The only rape gangs are Pakistanis?

1 hour ago, roquefort said:

Once again trying to deny the fact that these heinous crimes were covered up by mostly Labour councils and police forces.

 
That’s a strange take on my post.

But then you dud crop it to place it out of context.

 

 

An off topic post about Trump winning has been removed.

16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The only rape gangs are Pakistanis?

 

No

 

I am led to believe that the vast majority of these have been identified as Pakistani / Pakistani heritage

 

 

These ones are from Albanian Heitage

 

 

 

Not many white faces in these convicted Grooming / Rape gangs

 

24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The only rape gangs are Pakistanis?

Now you are trolling. Dont you have any decency in you? This scandal is about muslum rape gangs, so why the deflection? 

17 minutes ago, KireB said:

This scandal is about muslum rape gangs,

Read the OP.  It is about ALL rape Gangs, not just Muslim or Pakistani or any single race or religion!

14 minutes ago, KireB said:

Now you are trolling. Dont you have any decency in you? This scandal is about muslum rape gangs, so why the deflection? 

I’m not inclined to demonize a whole community on the basis of the heinous crimes of a tiny minority from that community, or indeed all followers of a religion (I presume ‘muslum’ was referring to followers of a religion).

 

Holding those who actually committed these heinous crimes accountable and not wandering off into blaming whole communities is the antithesis of ‘deflection’.

 

45 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The only rape gangs are Pakistanis?

 

No, but the 50, and counting, rape and torture gangs that are the subject of this thread, are made up of Pakistani Muslims; so for some reason, you do everything you can to deflect attention away from these vile, Muslim monsters.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not inclined to demonize a whole community on the basis of the heinous crimes of a tiny minority from that community, or indeed all followers of a religion (I presume ‘muslum’ was referring to followers of a religion).

 

Holding those who actually committed these heinous crimes accountable and not wandering off into blaming whole communities is the antithesis of ‘deflection’.

 

So you think hiding their identity, or calling them "Asian" (which is demonising Indians, Thais, Japanese and Koreans) is preferable?

Time to call a spade a spade.

Just now, roquefort said:

So you think hiding their identity, or calling them "Asian" (which is demonising Indians, Thais, Japanese and Koreans) is preferable?

Time to call a spade a spade.

Non of which is mentioned in the OP and certainly not by me.

6 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Read the OP.  It is about ALL rape Gangs, not just Muslim or Pakistani or any single race or religion!

So who are they referring to here? Have you read the previous enquiries? if not then I suggest you do for your answer

 

"The poll’s findings emerge amidst a heated political debate on being explicit regards the ethnicity of the majority of these gangs and why they were hidden and concealed as a result.?"

15 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Read the OP.  It is about ALL rape Gangs, not just Muslim or Pakistani or any single race or religion!

 

Utter nonsense; not sure where you have been for the last twenty years, to not understand that this is about the 50 plus rape and torture gangs made up of Pakistani Muslim men, that deliberately targeted young white English girls because of their ethnicity; time to recalibrate your moral compass.

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Utter nonsense; not sure where you have been for the last twenty years, to not understand that this is about the 50 plus rape and torture gangs made up of Pakistani Muslim men, that deliberately targeted young white English girls because of their ethnicity; time to recalibrate your moral compass.

"...that deliberately targeted poor young white English girls because of their ethnicity; time to recalibrate your moral compass."

This is why a new enquiry is needed. Just one example from a police officer who was told to keep it hidden.

 

How police covered up the Rochdale grooming gangs
As the grooming gangs scandal returns to the headlines, we spoke to Maggie Oliver, a former police officer who blew the whistle on the poor handling of the Rochdale case by her own force.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

"...that deliberately targeted poor young white English girls because of their ethnicity; time to recalibrate your moral compass."

 

poor, vulnerable 

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

poor, vulnerable 

If they were raping rich young girls they'd be in prison

The BBC had no issues calling the gang convicted a couple of days ago, photo above, Albanian.

 

Wonder why they never called them Eastern Europeans 😀😀