They love Trump, but many on the right loathe the Israel-Hamas ceasefire deal he demanded

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

Do you really have to ask?

Do you watch the news from time to time?

 

  If its on the news all the time, then you answer

Which agreements have Israel broken ?

(I have a feeling that you have no idea what you are talking about )

[Bkk Brian]

27 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

quite sure you are correct, Israel does not a record of keeping/respecting agreements

Who broke last ceasefire deal? Who has not come up with the names of the hostages as agreed on this deal? 

[Njoku]

20 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Come on, if Israel would not have been established in that area, then the current problems wouldn't exist in that area.

It's almost funny when people blame Palestinians for the fact that they want to live where their ancestors lived.

Since the Stone Age, spoils to the victor, show me anywhere in the world where this is not so?

 

Apart from that if you want to go back in time those Palestinians are brothers to the Jews as the father to both where the same. 

[Hawaiian]

48 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Like there are consequences for Jews which in public accuse Israel of war crimes. 

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/26/g-s1-12949/khalil-shikaki-palestinian-polling-israe-gaza-hamas

Very revealing what the polls say about the inhabitants of Gaza.  The results show the great majority approve of Hamas' terror tactics and atrocities even after 90% of them are now homeless and on the verge of starvation.  No wonder Israel is so determined. 

My mistake was to even pose the question of "consequences" because one would be hard pressed to find anyone who opposes Hamas.

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2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I was referring to the people who took  the baby hostage for over 1 year and the baby hostage takers who won't even tell the Parents whether their baby is still live or whether the baby is dead .

    They've agreed to give the baby back and they are deliberately causing the Parents more stress by not revealing the baby's condition .

   That is inhumane behaviour

I think you need a reminder about what you wrote:

"The deal involves giving a 2 year old baby back to its Parents 

Palestinians will be handing back a baby that they have been holding for 15 months .

   Palestinians will not even let the Parents know whether they baby is dead or alive .

   They don't know whether their baby will be dead or alive .

That is the people whom you are dealing with .

Inhumane ."

 

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1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

One person on Social Media is not many. So as usual, your title is misleading.

 

Secondly, its not only the "right" who oppose the deal, its also Liberal Democrat Trump supporters such as myself who feel that more Hamas terrorists need to be killed first.

 

 

 

The rules only allow a quote of 3 sentences. Ttry reading the entire article before you make any further comments.

[Hawaiian]

21 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/26/g-s1-12949/khalil-shikaki-palestinian-polling-israe-gaza-hamas

Very revealing what the polls say about the inhabitants of Gaza.  The results show the great majority approve of Hamas' terror tactics and atrocities even after 90% of them are now homeless and on the verge of starvation.  No wonder Israel is so determined. 

My mistake was to even pose the question of "consequences" because one would be hard pressed to find anyone who opposes Hamas.

Hard pressed.  But I did find an example of "consequences." https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0vewvp14zdo

[Nick Carter icp]

14 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I think you need a reminder about what you wrote:

 

 

 

   Here are the Palestinians snatching two babies away from its Mother.

A 4 year old and a 8 month old being forcibly taken from its Mother and taken across a border and being taken hostage .

   How would you describe the hostage takers ?

https://www.thetimes.com/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Fc29c6d14-6759-11ee-9cdc-99a8af137628.jpg?crop=225%2C282%2C73%2C36

https://static-cdn.toi-media.com/www/uploads/2023/11/rk9Siie116_0_0_989_556_0_x-large-e1701338009720-640x400.jpeg

 

   Now the hostage takers will not even inform the Parents about the babies condition, whether are are dead or alive .

   How would you describe the hostage takers ?

 

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

 

   I have noticed a reoccurring theme here .

A bunch of people who support a group who attempted a genocide of Jews on Oct 7th......................keep going on about Nazis .

   People who support the Palestinians in their attempts at eradicating Isreali Jews..........................keep mentioning Nazis 

Israels Jews is no better, and you cant see what I repeatedly have said, two evils doesnt make one right.

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

What a disgusting Jew baiting post.

 

Your fellow leftist Trump hater

[Keep Right]

I do not think "loathe" is the correct euphemism to use to describe those American patriots who are concerned that the Israel-es are capitulating to the terrorist Gaza occupants. More like those patriots are sad that Gaza will still be hosting the terrorists that will again inflict their hatred toward Israel. 

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Im sure their reasons is good, and you can ask yourself why so many jews decided to work for Nazi Germany, and also joined their armed forces.

Like George Soros, President's Medal of Freedom winner? 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Israels Jews is no better, and you cant see what I repeatedly have said, two evils doesnt make one right.

 

   Taking hostages is wrong and a war crime .

Trying to free the hostages is right and NOT a war crime .

So, Israelis are better than Hamas 

[simple1]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

 

   I have noticed a reoccurring theme here .

A bunch of people who support a group who attempted a genocide of Jews on Oct 7th......................keep going on about Nazis .

   People who support the Palestinians in their attempts at eradicating Isreali Jews..........................keep mentioning Nazis 

 

Lies, none of the people you mention support the eradication of Israeli Jews. With relevance to yourself, so far as I'm concerned,  is the inappropriate use of Nazi terminology with the attempt of generalised demonisation of the Palestinian people, not that you support Nazi ideology. Got a problem with my POV take it up with Mod/s as I do not retract my post.

[Yellowtail]

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I think you need a reminder about what you wrote:

"The deal involves giving a 2 year old baby back to its Parents 

Palestinians will be handing back a baby that they have been holding for 15 months .

   Palestinians will not even let the Parents know whether they baby is dead or alive .

   They don't know whether their baby will be dead or alive .

That is the people whom you are dealing with .

Inhumane ."

 

It was clear enough, except to nit-picking leftists 

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Quite surprising you say so, and ignorant you cant see the real reality of Israel, and how they justify their actions. Grufulle actions against their brothers. 

 

Flame away, 

I stand by my post.

[simple1]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Hamas have already stated they are proud of Oct 7th and are going to do it again. They stated that just after the ink dried on the ceasefire agreement they signed. There is no diplomatic solution with them around.

 

Got a link to that claim?

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Taking hostages is wrong and a war crime .

Trying to free the hostages is right and NOT a war crime .

So, Israelis are better than Hamas 

Blind and do not want go aknownledge whats actually have been going on to long! It is not a discussion anymore, you are stuck in denial, with a few others. 

 

So I do not care what you think, And the echochamber you and the others belongs to. 

 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

 

Lies, none of the people you mention support the eradication of Israeli Jews. With relevance to yourself, so far as I'm concerned,  is the inappropriate use of Nazi terminology with the attempt of generalised demonisation of the Palestinian people, not that you support Nazi ideology. Got a problem with my POV take it up with Mod/s as I do not retract my post.

 

As previously stated, I was referring to the Palestinian baby  hostage takers , rather than referring to all Palestinian people .

   I was just pointing out that you Anti Israelis do love a good Nazi mention .

   *Subject Israel . Lets mention Nazis*  

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Blind and do not want go aknownledge whats actually have been going on to long! It is not a discussion anymore, you are stuck in denial, with a few others. 

 

So I do not care what you think, And the echochamber you and the others belongs to. 

 

   We are discussing the topic heading .

Going on about other things will be off topic and we've been asked to remain on topic 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Got a link to that claim?

 

   It was posted in one of the other threads 

The video where Hamas declared  a victory and vowed to have more Oct 7th s in the future

[simple1]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I was referring to the people who took  the baby hostage for over 1 year and the baby hostage takers who won't even tell the Parents whether their baby is still live or whether the baby is dead .

    They've agreed to give the baby back and they are deliberately causing the Parents more stress by not revealing the baby's condition .

   That is inhumane behaviour

 

You posted "Palestinians", not Hamas. Even so IMO it is inappropriate to use the term "subspecies". which feeds into the ideology of the extreme Far Right.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Got a link to that claim?

I have a link to that fact yes right here including a video of his saying it.

 

And another one here

 

The deadliest slaughter of Jews in a single day since the Holocaust was a “military accomplishment” and “a source of pride for our people… to be passed down from generation to generation,” al-Hayya said.

Hamas’s top negotiator in the ceasefire and hostage talks said despite suing for an end to the war, the group would continue to pursue Israel’s destruction, looking toward Jerusalem and the Al-Aqsa Mosque as a “compass.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-leader-touts-ceasefire-as-a-defeat-for-israel-while-hailing-oct-7-atrocities/

 

 

[Yellowtail]

Just now, simple1 said:

 

You posted "Palestinians", not Hamas. Even so IMO it is inappropriate to use the term "subspecies". which feeds into the ideology of the extreme Far Right.

Okay, so had he Hamas, you would be okay with it, yes? 

 

So as he has already said what he meant, why continue? 

 

 

[simple1]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It was posted in one of the other threads 

The video where Hamas declared  a victory and vowed to have more Oct 7th s in the future

 

Ok. One can expect from Hamas, just as the Israeli extremist Far Right call for the extermination of Gaza. 

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[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, simple1 said:

 

Ok. One can expect from Hamas, just as the Israeli extremist Far Right call for the extermination of Gaza. 

 

   It was a message from the Hamas leadership .

Hamas intend to continue the war .

Where are the the people who have been marching for a ceasefire ?

All the Westerners in Cities demanding a ceasefire .

Why aren't thy outraged that Hamas will continue fighting ?

I thought that they wanted a ceasefire

 

[simple1]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Okay, so had he Hamas, you would be okay with it, yes? 

 

So as he has already said what he meant, why continue? 

 

 

 

No, I believe the term should not be used - way to extreme in a Western society.

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

You posted "Palestinians", not Hamas. Even so IMO it is inappropriate to use the term "subspecies". which feeds into the ideology of the extreme Far Right.

 

   My whole post was about the Palestinians who took the babies hostage .

Some non Hamas also went into Israel and took hostages back to Gaza. 

   The baby hostage takers may have been Hamas and they may not have been Hamas .

   For the 3 rd time now, the whole post was in reference to the baby hostage takers , who were actually Palestinians .

   You would have thought that one of the group would have said "Its a baby, leave the baby alone" or "Lets give the baby back"

   But, no