Trump just said he is going to pardon the J6 "hostages".

[rasg]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

A jury of 12 people disagrees.

 

So when I talk about Biden's achievements, how is that bashing America?

Because he doesn’t actually have any.

[rasg]

9 hours ago, impulse said:

 

If you only watched the MSM, that may be what you saw.  If you watched alternative sources, you saw the cops going full Rambo on the much hated MAGA protestors, and some of the protestors defending themselves (and other protestors) from police beatings.

 

Looking forward to the release of ALL the footage.  Personally, I believe that some protestors needed to go to jail and a few of them deserved long sentences.  But 1500 felony prosecutions?  That was abuse of power.  And the pardons are to correct the injustices.

 

It was. Many of them were merely there at the Capitol building and were located and arrested by their phone locations. Many were banged up without being charged.

[rasg]

9 hours ago, scorecard said:

Who / what are Washington swamp creatures?

Your post shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Dan O]

34 minutes ago, rasg said:

can’t rememebr

"Tried to overthrow the government"

 

So funny! Have you seen any of the many 1000s of hours of CCTV footage from the so-called "insurrection" and how it played put? I bet you haven't even checked.

 

The guy with the horns (Jacob Chansley if I remember) was given a guided tour of the Capitol building by up to ten police officers. It's all on video. He prayed in the senate chamber itself and they stuck him in prison for a couple of years. Using phone geo locations they prosecuted hundreds who were simply there at the Capitol Building. Many have been held without charge for three years.

 

Did you know that it's now been admitted by the FBI that there were over 30 CHS's, paid by the FBI and dressed as Maga supporters in the crowd? Why would that be?

Did you know that three people died on the day and NOT one was a police officer.. Ashli Babbit was murdered in cold blood by Michael Byrd. Rosaline Boyle was beaten to death by a female police officer. I can't remember the name of the other.

 

Now Trump is back all will be revealed.

can you post a link where there were 30 pad FBI undercorver agents there in the Capitol? You imply they were instigators but in fact they were dressed as any undercover agent or informers would be on any case. I believe there were 3 assigned and the remainder were tagalongs on there own as they had been working the case prior and attended the rally . 

 

Have you seen the footage of the rioters burning items, bear spraying police, beating them with clubs and shields?  Issuing treat of violence and carrying handcuffs and zip ties to detain congressmen and women? I guess not 

[SiSePuede419]

43 minutes ago, rasg said:

Have you seen any of the many 1000s of hours of CCTV footage from the so-called "insurrection" and how it played put?

I watched it all day long as the violent mob attacked law enforcement officers.

 

Your attempt to rewrite history by telling me that what I saw with my own eyes and ears wasn't "real" reminds me of Fake Christians trying to pretend the Bible doesn't prohibit lying, stealing, cheating just because you mumbled some words about accepting Jesus.

 

You just threw Jesus in the garbage with your lies.

 😭

[SiSePuede419]

8 minutes ago, Dan O said:

can you post a link where there were 30 pad FBI undercorver agents there in the Capitol?

What's really bizarre about these crazy people is they believe Trump just pardoned violent criminals who were Antifa and undercover FBI agents who were out to make him look bad....?!??!?!?!

 

WTF.

 

Please explain why your Jenius Common sense Successful Smart businessman did something so UTTERLY <deleted> STUPID 😀

[SiSePuede419]

36 minutes ago, rasg said:

The police officer who was "beaten with a fire extinguisher" turned out to be a total fabrication by the media. He died of a stroke days a few days after Jan 6th.

Where did you go to Medical school?

 

Oh. Wait.

 

You're just a dumbass.

 

Nevermind. 🏓

 

Getting beaten with a fire extinguisher or any heavy object can lead to serious injuries that may increase the risk of a stroke. Here’s how this could happen:

 

1. Trauma to Blood Vessels:

The impact of a fire extinguisher can damage blood vessels in the head or neck, such as the carotid arteries. This trauma might cause a carotid artery dissection, where the inner layer of the artery tears, leading to blood pooling and clot formation. If a clot travels to the brain, it can block blood flow and cause an ischemic stroke.

 

 

2. Brain Hemorrhage:

Direct blows to the head can result in a hemorrhagic stroke, caused by bleeding in or around the brain. The force of the impact can rupture blood vessels, leading to intracranial bleeding that increases pressure on the brain and damages brain tissue.

 

 

3. Inflammatory Response:

Severe trauma triggers an inflammatory response in the body, which can increase the risk of blood clot formation. These clots can travel to the brain and cause a stroke.

 

 

4. **Swelling and  ncreased Intracranial Pressure:

Head trauma can lead to brain swelling (edema). If the swelling isn't controlled, it can compress blood vessels and reduce blood flow to parts of the brain, potentially leading to a stroke.

5. Secondary Complications:
Trauma can sometimes cause indirect effects, such as changes in heart rhythm (arrhythmias) or systemic infections, which might increase the risk of stroke days after the injury.

In summary, a stroke following trauma can result from a combination of vascular damage, bleeding, clot formation, or indirect effects on the cardiovascular system. If someone experiences neurological symptoms such as weakness, confusion, or slurred speech after a head injury, immediate medical attention is crucial.

 

[Elkski]

Such a sad day in America.   I 🤔 no the polls show 57% of Americans didn't want trump to pardon the insurrectionists 

[Walker88]

42 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

What's really bizarre about these crazy people is they believe Trump just pardoned violent criminals who were Antifa and undercover FBI agents who were out to make him look bad....?!??!?!?!

 

WTF.

 

Please explain why your Jenius Common sense Successful Smart businessman did something so UTTERLY <deleted> STUPID 😀

You have to learn to "think" like a MAGA....and I use the term think generously.

 

Look at it like the Wave-Particle Duality in Quantum Mechanics.  For example, in the stolen documents case, the FBI planted them AND 45 had every right to take them, because he had declassified them with his mind (a lie corroborated by soon-to-be Himmler-wannabe Kash Patel).

 

So it's simple re the 6 January terrorists...they're true patriots AND Antifa.

[SunnyinBangrak]

Just now, Walker88 said:

You have to learn to "think" like a MAGA....and I use the term think generously.

 

Look at it like the Wave-Particle Duality in Quantum Mechanics.  For example, in the stolen documents case, the FBI planted them AND 45 had every right to take them, because he had declassified them with his mind (a lie corroborated by soon-to-be Himmler-wannabe Kash Patel).

 

So it's simple re the 6 January terrorists...they're true patriots AND Antifa.

An ex senator and VP had more right to retain classified documents than a President? Are you OK?

[Walker88]

Two kinds of people in the US....

 

1) Traitors who think it's okay to beat and bear spray cops, plus try to find the Vice President to hang him

 

And....

 

2) Patriots who think all the pardoned terrorists should be doxxed, their names and addresses posted online, so that real Americans and angry law enforcement officers can go pay them a 'visit'.

[Luuk Chaai]

21 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And obviously you support a guy who frees people who tried to overthrow the government.

Were you disappointed that they didn't hang Pence?

Sad.

 

so ??     why did Biden pardon the Jan 6 committe ?  you know, the group the destroyed all the evidence

 should I even have to mention Liz Cheney ?

 or how about scammer Fauci ?

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, Hummin said:

 

I do not think you understand, they broke in to the Congress, and Trump did nothing, he encouraged then. End of discussion

 

Thats the facts

Prove that Trump encouraged them to break into congress or you are making it up. If it's a fact you must be able to prove it.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

An ex senator and VP had more right to retain classified documents than a President? Are you OK?

Obviously not.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, Elkski said:

Such a sad day in America.   I 🤔 no the polls show 57% of Americans didn't want trump to pardon the insurrectionists 

Polls show??????? Are you taking the michael? Polls showed that HRC was going to win

 

 

Lots of people didn't want to Biden to do stuff either, and he still did it.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, rasg said:

Because he doesn’t actually have any.

Ain't that the truth, unless one calls dividing the nation, disregarding criminals if they were illegal immigrants as achievements, and who was actually running the country anyway?

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, rasg said:

At the minimum that will be happening. You are talking about Michael Byrd. The left, of course, gave him a promotion. Rosanne Boyland was beaten to death by a female police officer.

The police officer who was "beaten with a fire extinguisher" turned out to be a total fabrication by the media. He died of a stroke days a few days after Jan 6th.

If the truth doesn't work, make it up and the woke will lap it up.

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Thank goodness you guys lost. It really is possible at this stage to look on this divide as a clear case of good vs evil. I hope you will better inform yourself beyond the msm headlines which if the subject is Trump will be false or deliberately misleading.

Reading some of the posts from the sore loosers, it's really really good that Trump won. Their rants are soooooo entertaining.

 

The dark side of the force is strong among the liberal elements.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

One unarmed woman, doing nothing but being there, was shot, dead, by  a police officer.

 

"If you invade congress by force, the police are in their rights to shoot them".

No they are not, unless they are serious danger or they can reasonably believe that their life is in danger.  

No point in telling some posters the truth- so invested in hate that they believe anything the MSM propaganda tells them.

[impulse]

8 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Two kinds of people in the US....

 

1) Traitors who think it's okay to beat and bear spray cops, plus try to find the Vice President to hang him

 

And....

 

2) Patriots who think all the pardoned terrorists should be doxxed, their names and addresses posted online, so that real Americans and angry law enforcement officers can go pay them a 'visit'.

 

On which side of your ridiculous line does Jonathan Turley fit?

 

George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley said Tuesday that the cruel way former President Joe Biden’s Department of Justice (DOJ) handled the cases of Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol rioters provided justification for President Donald Trump’s decision to pardon them on Monday.

 

Biden’s DOJ prosecuted over 1,200 individuals from nearly every state in connection with the riot and a D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals panel found in March 2024 that some defendants experienced a wrongful extension of their sentences. Turley, on “America’s Newsroom,” suggested that while he had wanted accountability for those “responsible for the riot,” the DOJ’s overreach made Trump’s pardons reasonable.

 

Jonathan Turley Says Biden DOJ’s Harsh Treatment Of J6 Rioters ‘Made The Case’ For Trump Pardoning Them | The Daily Caller

[SiSePuede419]

9 hours ago, Elkski said:

57% of Americans didn't want trump to pardon the insurrectionists 

Never underestimate the power of dumb people when they get together they can do "great" things.

This is going to get dark, pretty quick.

Trump's got the Police eating out of his hand.

The police view The Constitution as an obstacle to putting "bad people" in "bad places". 

 

Police would love to be freed from the shackles of having to obey the law.

And now Trump has his Death Squad Paramilitary in place, SCOTUS already told him in a prior decision ANYTHING he does in office "has immunity" and he can't be prosecuted. 

 

And now he can pardon his Death Squad for any crimes they are getting ready to commit.

 

What a Golden Age not seen in America since Nazi Germany. ☠️

 

It's just a "Roman salute" after all. 😲

 

[nauseus]

14 hours ago, Lacessit said:

You think Trump will do better? He will keep printing money. He's already got the practice in.

 

His whole business empire is awash with debt, what makes you think America will be any different?

 

 

You think America is not already awash with debt?

[FritsSikkink]

15 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Why were there no insurrection charges then?

cut the BS that nothing happened: List of cases of the January 6 United States Capitol attack - Wikipedia

[SiSePuede419]

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You think America is not already awash with debt?

Unlike Dear Leader, America pays it's debts and hasn't <deleted> it's creditors in the ass six times in Bankruptcy court. 😋

 

 

Donald Trump's businesses have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy six times. These filings allowed his companies to restructure their debts while continuing operations. The instances include:

1. 1991: Trump Taj Mahal
2. 1992: Trump Plaza Hotel
3. 2004: Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts
4. 2009: Trump Entertainment Resorts
5. 2009: Trump Entertainment Resorts (second filing)
6. 2014: Trump Entertainment Resorts (third filing)

It's important to note that these were corporate bankruptcies; Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy.

[Walker88]

11 hours ago, rasg said:

It was. Many of them were merely there at the Capitol building and were located and arrested by their phone locations. Many were banged up without being charged.

Should have babbittized every last one of those terrorists. No mercy.

 

The treasonous repubs like Boebert are offering to give them guided tours of the Capitol, including those who beat cops and wanted to hang the VP, Republicans are the enemy of law enforcement.

 

We used to get authority to take out jihadis in the tribal regions of Pakistan---this was done under 45, too---who represented far less of a threat to the homeland.

 

I suspect some patriotic law enforcement officers are going to hunt down the scum after the convicted felon pardoned them, and sent them to hell.

 

 

[Walker88]

12 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Unlike Dear Leader, America pays it's debts and hasn't <deleted> it's creditors in the ass six times in Bankruptcy court. 😋

 

 

Donald Trump's businesses have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy six times. These filings allowed his companies to restructure their debts while continuing operations. The instances include:

1. 1991: Trump Taj Mahal
2. 1992: Trump Plaza Hotel
3. 2004: Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts
4. 2009: Trump Entertainment Resorts
5. 2009: Trump Entertainment Resorts (second filing)
6. 2014: Trump Entertainment Resorts (third filing)

It's important to note that these were corporate bankruptcies; Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy.

The US Taxpayer had to pick up all of those bankruptcies, as stiffed junk bondholders used the losses against other gains.

 

Some loans from NY banks, on other properties, had personal guarantees. He had a payment due on one which he couldn't pay, so his daddy walked into one of his NJ casinos and bought $3.2 million in chips and walked out. The cash was then used to service the NY loan. (MAGA fanboys can Google that.)

 

"Self made man"   LOL  The only things self made about the clown are his giant belly and butt.

[nauseus]

13 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

If you insist on taking this discussion off-piste, at least avail yourself of some salient facts.

 

Change in Total U.S. Debt by President 

Below is a table of debt by U.S. presidents in the 20th and 21st centuries.

 

 

Misleading. Biden's tally is incomplete here.

 

Better to include the full link: https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by-president-dollar-and-percentage-7371225

 

which includes this comment:

 

Which President Contributed the Most to U.S. National Debt?

The national debt increased by nearly 40 times under Abraham Lincoln from 1861 to 1865—the largest multiple of increase in U.S. history.7 Of those who were president in either the 20th or 21st century, Franklin D. Roosevelt contributed to the largest percent increase in national debt. Recent presidents Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and George W. Bush presided over the three largest increases in terms of dollar amounts. Current President Joe Biden is on pace to join or surpass them.

[nauseus]

24 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Unlike Dear Leader, America pays it's debts and hasn't <deleted> it's creditors in the ass six times in Bankruptcy court. 😋

 

 

Donald Trump's businesses have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy six times. These filings allowed his companies to restructure their debts while continuing operations. The instances include:

1. 1991: Trump Taj Mahal
2. 1992: Trump Plaza Hotel
3. 2004: Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts
4. 2009: Trump Entertainment Resorts
5. 2009: Trump Entertainment Resorts (second filing)
6. 2014: Trump Entertainment Resorts (third filing)

It's important to note that these were corporate bankruptcies; Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy.

 

Deluded deflection.

 

If USA paid it's debts, how come there's now a 36 trillion bill due?  

[transam]

15 hours ago, flexomike said:

and many here know that you are f'd up

Many, really, who are they, or are you the king of the hill on here......................😂

[nauseus]

19 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Should have babbittized every last one of those terrorists. No mercy.

 

The treasonous repubs like Boebert are offering to give them guided tours of the Capitol, including those who beat cops and wanted to hang the VP, Republicans are the enemy of law enforcement.

 

We used to get authority to take out jihadis in the tribal regions of Pakistan---this was done under 45, too---who represented far less of a threat to the homeland.

 

I suspect some patriotic law enforcement officers are going to hunt down the scum after the convicted felon pardoned them, and sent them to hell.

 

 

 

This show just gets more deranged.