Afghan man stabs and kills two in Germany, including a toddler others injured

[Neeranam]

6 minutes ago, proton said:

 

For telling the truth?

Surah 47.4

47:4 So when you meet those who disbelieve strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them,

 

 

Tell me your religion and I'll find some similar thing in its scripture. 

[proton]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Exactly, nothing to do with religion. 

 

If he was a muslim it is everything to do with religion

[proton]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Tell me your religion and I'll find some similar thing in its scripture. 

 

Buddhist, go on then, the trouble is Muslims believe this is the direct word of God. Over 48 K Islamic terror attacks killing over 210k since 1979, nothing to do with religion? wake up

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, proton said:

 

Budhist, go on then, the trouble is Muslims believe this is the direct word of God

The truth please.

[proton]

8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

The truth please.

 

Already posted

 

Surah 47.4

47:4 So when you meet those who disbelieve strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them,

 

[Neeranam]

Just now, proton said:

 

Already posted

 

Surah 47.4

47:4 So when you meet those who disbelieve strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them,

 

You are obviously not Buddhist, you can't even spell it. Buddhists do not spout anti-other religious hate like you do. 

 

What religion were you born as?

[soalbundy]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Were you baptised?

 

You missed my point. 

No I wasn't baptized. I take a great deal of interest in philosophy, spirituality, and religions, I have read many Hindu and Buddhist works as well as Christianity, if any religion would find favour with me it would be Buddhism (it was the only religion that Einstein, a Jew, respected, he considered that 2,600 years ago Buddha had an inkling of the quantum vacuum).

 

The oldest religion still practiced is Hinduism which is built on the meditation practices of Yogis which culminated in the Vedas, Vedanta ( Veda=knowledge anta = the goal of) and the Bagavad Gihta and has some similarity to Buddhism. Many of the sayings from the Bible could have come from Buddhism, "I am that I am", "before Abraham was, I am" "In my fathers house there are many mansions". I haven't looked at Islamic traditions except for Rumi who was a 13th century Sunni Muslim.

 

If you had a point I no doubt missed it.

[proton]

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

You are obviously not Buddhist, you can't even spell it. Buddhists do not spout anti-other religious hate like you do. 

 

What religion were you born as?

 

None of your business, the topic is about a muslim murderer, not me

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[simon43]

How on earth can anyone. regardless of their beliefs, attack and kill a 2-year old child?

[proton]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

What chance?

Remember why many of these Muslim people are asylum seekers in the first place. Especially what the UK did by carving up their countries into artificial borders with little regard for ethnic, tribal, or religious divisions.  

 

My friend used to process asylum claims she said 95% were fake. Those claiming to be afghans today are mostly Pakistani or Bangladeshi with no grounds for an asylum claim, it's become a scam. Muslim terrorism has nothing to do with colonial history, and everything to do with thier religion.

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

10 minutes ago, proton said:

 

None of your business, the topic is about a muslim murderer, not me

The topic is about an Afghan murderer. 

 

Who happens to be Muslim at a time when such attacks appear to be religiously motivated rather than simple 'madness'... 

[DonniePeverley]

Couple of other stabbings in Germany yesterday too. Simple google search. But they were carried out by white guys, so no national news. 

 

Also was a gun shot, but again by a white person. 

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

Couple of other stabbings in Germany yesterday too. Simple google search. But they were carried out by white guys, so no national news. 

 

Also was a gun shot, but again by a white person. 

Interesting. Just highlights the Islamophobia around here. 

[Neeranam]

9 minutes ago, proton said:

 

My friend used to process asylum claims she said 95% were fake. Those claiming to be afghans today are mostly Pakistani or Bangladeshi with no grounds for an asylum claim, it's become a scam. Muslim terrorism has nothing to do with colonial history, and everything to do with thier religion.

I said nothing about terrorism. 

But, of course it is to do with Colonialism, to say otherwise confirms your bigotry.

[Neeranam]

17 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Who happens to be Muslim at a time when such attacks appear to be religiously motivated rather than simple 'madness'... 

Are you assuming he was Muslim?

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

Couple of other stabbings in Germany yesterday too. Simple google search. But they were carried out by white guys, so no national news. 

 

Also was a gun shot, but again by a white person. 

Was it a mass stabbing by one perp that also killed a two year old, an adult and injured others in a frenzy including another 2 year old girl? Had they been ordered to leave Germany because of a failed asylum claim? 

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

19 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Who happens to be Muslim at a time when such attacks appear to be religiously motivated rather than simple 'madness'... 

Are you assuming he was Muslim?

 

He was Afghani - Afghanistan is an overwhelmingly Muslim country with Sunni Muslims accounting for approximately 85-90% of the population and Shia Muslims for approximately 10-15% of the population. 

 

So yes, absolutely I am 'stating' that there is an overwhelming probability that he was Muslim and mostly likely Sunni Muslim....   

 

There are other minute possibilities that he was a non-Muslim...     he could have been one of the 200-300 Hindus and Sikhs, or one of the 10,000 or so Christians, Bahá'ís, Atheists / Agnostics who practice or hold their beliefs in secret due to the risks of persecution.

 

Or... if you want to continue down your rabbit hole... he could have been a cross dressing trans lesbian Jew... 

 

 

But lets face it - he was from Afghanistan and there is an overwhelming probability that he [the attacker] was Muslim - if you think otherwise, you are entering the realm of the unrealistic and preposterous. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[proton]

15 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Are you assuming he was Muslim?

 

Non Muslim Afghans are 0.3% of the population so it's a safe assumption

[soalbundy]

Just now, Neeranam said:

Did you have any similar ceremony in another religion? What were your parent?

Strange, as most Christians are baptized. 

My parents were/are protestant but I lie between Mahayana Buddhism and Judaism. 

I spent time in India, studying Hinduism/Buddhism.

Sure, Jesus' lost years were in India. 

"before Abraham was, I am" -  interesting, have you heard Eckhart Tolle speaking about this?

 

I've listened to some Eckhard Tolle but not in this context. Neither of my parents or my grandparents (all white and British) were christened, we were a heathen lot, doomed to everlasting fire no doubt.

 

I've heard about 'Jesus in India', I find it highly unlikely, he was a Jewish mystic who, despite his wisdom, was a Jew at heart who departed from some core teachings, he was probably not a carpenter (very few trees where he was and wood would have been very expensive) he was most likely a stone mason who found work in some of the Roman garrisons so it's unlikely he had the cash or the motivation for such a journey. Although some Indian artifacts (very rare) have been found among Roman possessions (probably by way of traders) India was off the Roman radar.

 

I've read the teachings of Nisargadatta (complicated and needs repeated readings) and looked at Ramana Maharshi whose message and method is simple and I have used it with some success but it was nothing I didn't know already, Papaji who is the same as Ramana.

 

While meditating in the temple grounds I have had some aha! moments, once coming out of meditation, for a few seconds, I knew that the trees were aware of my presence, I spoke with the Abbot about this....he thought it was quite normal, and once I encountered such bliss and peace for 5 seconds I shouted WTF was that! Usually however I get nothing from meditating even though, very unusual for a lay person, I can clear the mind completely of thought at will without any technique, even while walking, not even background clutter.

[Neeranam]

6 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

I've listened to some Eckhard Tolle but not in this context. Neither of my parents or my grandparents (all white and British) were christened, we were a heathen lot, doomed to everlasting fire no doubt.

 

 

"Many misunderstandings and false beliefs about Christ will clear if you realize that there is no past or future Christ. To say that Christ was or will be is a contradiction in terms. Jesus was. He was a man who lived two thousand years ago and realized divine presence, his true nature. And so he said, 'Before Abraham was, I am.' He did not say, 'I already existed before Abraham was born.' That would have meant that he was still within the dimension of time and form identity.

Thus, the man Jesus became Christ, a vehicle for pure consciousness.

The second coming of Christ is a transformation of human consciousness, a shift from time to presence, from thinking to pure consciousness, not the arrival of some man or woman. If 'Christ' were to return tomorrow in some externalized form, what could he or she possibly say to you other than this: 'I am the Truth. I am divine presence. I am eternal life. I am within you. I am here. I am Now.'"

[Neeranam]

7 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

I've read the teachings of Nisargadatta (complicated and needs repeated readings) and looked at Ramana Maharshi whose message and method is simple and I have used it with some success but it was nothing I didn't know already, Papaji who is the same as Ramana.

Interesting, I plan to visit his town in South India this year and walk around the mountain there. 

[Neeranam]

8 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

While meditating in the temple grounds I have had some aha! moments, once coming out of meditation, for a few seconds, I knew that the trees were aware of my presence, I spoke with the Abbot about this....he thought it was quite normal, and once I encountered such bliss and peace for 5 seconds I shouted WTF was that! Usually however I get nothing from meditating even though, very unusual for a lay person, I can clear the mind completely of thought at will without any technique, even while walking, not even background clutter.

Lucky you! 

I had one when shaking the Dalai Lama's hand, and another when going to one of the few Brahma temples in India in Pushkar. But for another thread or forum 😉

[Kinok Farang]

31 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Such post I call brainwashed .

You won't tell me that the murders in US are mainly committed by Muslims?

And you won't tell me that there are no Nazis?

Enjoy your afternoon. Good bye 😀

There's no hope for you.

[Neeranam]

3 hours ago, James105 said:

 

The racists, the Nazi's (if they even exist nowadays) and anti-democrats are not killing little kids with knives on a regular basis.  Only one group is doing that and it is always islam.   It has shown time and time again it is completely incompatible with western culture. 

 

I wish it was the nazi's or the racists that were doing this as if it was there would be no stone left unturned to eradicate it from society, but since it's muslims that means nothing will be done and the tiresome appeasers continue to come out in force with their "what about the Nazi's" nonsense.  

Unbelievable how you can be so naive and brainwashable. 

[soalbundy]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

It's not a reason at all, mental illness is. 

They left Afghanistan for obvious reason, caused by UK, US etc, which you are maybe not aware of or intentionally ignoring.

Afghanistan has had conquerors running on its lands since at least 500 BC even Alexander the great and Genghis khan were there. Afghanistan only became a country in the 1700's after which also several Arab conquerors had invaded. Britain tried to take it in the 1800's to protect its Indian empire from Russia so Afghanistan was never a peaceful oasis, America is just the latest to put boots on the ground. Yes I feel sorry for them, so lets invite an entire country to settle in the West and while we're at it take in every farming community in South America and Africa suffering from drought, plenty of Chinese suffering from persecution as well. It just can't be done, if scientists are correct the climate will get ever more hotter and more countries are going to be uninhabitable (maybe even Thailand). It doesn't matter what happened in the past or who is to blame, our politicians are paid to look after us now and be pragmatic, resources are limited which I suppose eventually means war.

[proton]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

I said nothing about terrorism. 

But, of course it is to do with Colonialism, to say otherwise confirms your bigotry.

 

The truth is not bigotry, he was a muslim terrorist killing with a knife, possibly crazy but more likely inspired by his faith, Afgahnistan was not successfully colonised by anyone, so you can forget that excuse.

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Interesting. Just highlights the Islamophobia around here. 

Yes, on AN in particular

[proton]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Interesting. Just highlights the Islamophobia around here. 

 

Made up word to demonise critics of islam and muslims. Phobia is an irrational fear, but fear of islam is entirely rational, you only have to look at the terror attacks around the world over the past decades, as well as the news almost daily! In the prophets own words recorded by Bukhari  'I was victorious by terror'

[Neeranam]

3 minutes ago, proton said:

 

The truth is not bigotry, he was a muslim terrorist killing with a knife, possibly crazy but more likely inspired by his faith, Afgahnistan was not successfully colonised by anyone, so you can forget that excuse.

US, Occupation, Pipeline, Al Queda formation reason, Middle East. Come on man, it's not a hard puzzle to fit together. I never said it was colonized although some say it was. Al Queda was not formed in a vaccuum.