Trump's call with Danish PM sparks alarm & International Tension

[candide]

15 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Merely a tempest in a teapot.

 

The USA does NOT need NATO.

 

NATO should be dismantled.

First, we dismantle NATO, and then....

Let One-Hundred Flowers of Peace.....Blossom....!

百花齊放

 

 

Just to paraphrase Comrade Mao....

 

It may not really need it now, but for how long?

 

The question is not whether China will dominate or not. The only relevant question is when? There will be a time when the USA will not be able to really compete alone with China and to really hinder its influence.

[AlexRich]

The Trump administration is no different from an organised crime enterprise. Only the beginning, next thing will be wealth transfers to the Trump family … following in the footsteps of his friend Putin. 

[0ffshore360]

6 hours ago, malt25 said:

Does the Orange Moron have sufficient vocab to hold such a conversation or does one of his minders conduct the communication ?

 

In general terms most International State leaders possess a reasonable degree of multi lingual capacity.

Trump excels at struggling with Merkan Hinglis !

[Thingamabob]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

I assumed that they will react with glee when offered and then say f....off jerk. 

Well, we may find out if you are right, in due course.

[GammaGlobulin]

31 minutes ago, candide said:

It may not really need it now, but for how long?

 

The question is not whether China will dominate or not. The only relevant question is when? There will be a time when the USA will not be able to really compete alone with China and to really hinder its influence.

 

The real problem is that NATO countries are no longer NATO countries, due to mass migration from the south, and from the subcontinent.

Due to rapid ongoing depopulation of the original inhabitants of NATO countries, the fundamental culture of these countries, and NATO as a whole, is rapidly changing.

Mass migration will continue to increase, especially due to Global Warming, and such effects as crop failure in poorer/hotter areas in Africa and India.

The UK is already thought of as being "little" India, or the "new" Africa.

 

When the culture reaches a tipping point, or maybe it already has, NATO countries will be useless to the USA, if they are not already useless already.

 

The best solution is to cut out the cancer in one fell swoop, pull up the drawbridges, before more resources are wasted on what is obviously the LOST NATO cause.

 

We need to seal up the USA borders, north and south, which will effectively bar illegal entry. 

Then, we can set a logical immigration policy to welcome QUALITY immigrants, and the more quality immigrants the better.

 

Some of these immigrants can be sent up to Greenland to take possession of that arctic island, just as China did in Tibet and other places in China's hinterlands, when China sent Han Chinese to dilute the minority populations.

There is really much work to be done.

And so very little time.

 

Russia is salivating over the northern parts of Canada, being the resource-rich waters that are quickly becoming ice-free.

China has been chomping at the bit, just waiting for ice-free waters north of Canada, where China will try to stake it's claim to as much territory as possible, just through occupying these areas with thousands of Chinese Vessels.....

 

We know this is true just by observing what the Chinese do in the South China Sea.....

Am I right?

 

 

 

 

This is just a preview of what will happen around Greenland, and in the northern waters of Canada.

 

[Thingamabob]

2 hours ago, candide said:

That's $280 billion. Not bad. Let's see when (if) this is actually offered.....

Probably not, but who knows ?

[Thingamabob]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

I think Greenland has a chance to be great.

“A 2023 survey showed that 25 of 34 minerals deemed "critical raw materials" by the European Commission were found in Greenland. They include materials used in batteries such as graphite and lithium, and what are known as rare earth elements used in electric vehicles and wind turbines”.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/01/15/world/politics/why-trump-greenland/

 

Go for it Mr. President ! Give the socialist cause for concern!

In many ways a US involvement in Greenland, one way or another, makes strategic sense from a security point of view.

[Thingamabob]

4 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Greenland is no longer a Danish colony although, since 1979, Denmark has remained responsible  for the defence of Greenland, its' foreign affairs, and for its' judiciary. All other aspects of Greenland's constitution are now independent. While the Danish govt appears opposed to the Trump initiative It would be interesting to know how the majority of the 50k approx population of Greenland feel about it.

For the two people who found this confusing let me know what confusedls you and I will try to explain more.

[GammaGlobulin]

16 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

For the two people who found this confusing let me know what confusedls you and I will try to explain more.

 

I am not confused by your very clear summary.

I have ZERO confusion on this matter.

 

Denmark need not be consulted!

 

We just need to buy Greenland from the local inhabitants.

 

50K inhabitants.....

USD1 million dollars gift to each inhabitant.....

 

We can buy GREENLAND (of course we will rename it....New Mar-a-Lago).....

 

For a total cost of only USD50 Billion.

 

This is a STEAL....!

 

And, now is the time to do this.

Strike while the iron is hot, and before the price goes up....and...

 

Before Russia and China tender their bids, in coming years.

 

 

[newbee2022]

16 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

President Donald Trump’s persistent desire to acquire Greenland has sent shockwaves through Denmark and triggered a diplomatic crisis. According to reports from European sources, Trump recently had a "firm" and "serious" phone conversation with Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen, during which he made clear his intentions to secure the world’s largest island for the United States.  

 

The president has been vocal about his interest in Greenland, citing its strategic importance for national security and economic potential in the Arctic, a region of growing geopolitical significance as Russia and China increase their influence there. However, the Danish government, which oversees Greenland as an autonomous territory, has firmly rejected any notion of selling the island.  

 

 

“It was horrendous,” one European source familiar with the conversation told the *Financial Times*. Another described the interaction as a “cold shower,” noting that while initial reports of Trump’s interest in Greenland seemed implausible, his seriousness now poses a potentially dangerous situation. “The Danes are now in crisis mode,” another source said, while a fourth remarked, “The Danes are utterly freaked out by this.”  

 

Trump's team has remained steadfast, with officials confirming to multiple outlets that the president is "100% serious" about acquiring Greenland. Reports also suggest that he has not ruled out the possibility of using military force to achieve this goal.  

 

The White House has framed its interest in Greenland as an effort to protect American interests in the Arctic, emphasizing the island’s economic and strategic value. National Security Council spokesperson Brian Hughes stated, “President Trump has been clear that the safety and security of Greenland is important to the United States as China and Russia make significant investments throughout the [Arctic] region.” He added that the president is committed to ensuring “mutual prosperity” for both nations through cooperation.  

 

To become a U.S. territory, however, Greenland would first need to declare independence from Denmark, an unlikely scenario given its current status as an autonomous region. Greenland’s leader, Múte Egede, recently reiterated that while the island remains open to discussions about collaboration with the U.S., its people have no interest in joining America.  

 

The proposal has alarmed Danish officials, who view it as a severe overreach and a threat to sovereignty. The tension surrounding the issue underscores broader concerns about the Arctic’s increasing role in global politics. As warming temperatures open new shipping routes and resource opportunities in the region, nations are jockeying for influence, making Greenland a strategic prize for many.  

 

For now, Trump’s ambitions remain unmet, but his bold pursuit of Greenland has raised questions about the future of the Arctic and its place in international power dynamics. Whether the Danish government can withstand the pressure or find common ground with Washington remains to be seen, but the episode has already left a mark on U.S.-Danish relations.

 

Based on a report by NYP 2025-01-27

 

 

Maybe he forgot today what he "demanded" Yesterday. Dementia is coming

[tomazbodner]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

I think Greenland has a chance to be great.

“A 2023 survey showed that 25 of 34 minerals deemed "critical raw materials" by the European Commission were found in Greenland. They include materials used in batteries such as graphite and lithium, and what are known as rare earth elements used in electric vehicles and wind turbines”.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/01/15/world/politics/why-trump-greenland/

 

Go for it Mr. President ! Give the socialist cause for concern!

What cause for concern? That would be green light for Russia to take the other half of Greenland and Eastern Europe, and China to finally take Taiwan, which would mean the only foundry that keeps US technologically ahead of China would become Chinese.

 

And no, with the speed that this is happening, TSMC would not be opening another foundry in US, so you'd be stuck with Intel at 95%+ failure rate. Or Samsung, which begged TSMC to make their advanced stuff, a request that was denied.

 

So basically what Trump is doing would doom US technological companies and hand the dominance to China. Which, btw. has most if not all minerals, deemed "critical raw materials". And they already closed the tap on several of them to US.

 

MAGA Masterplan!

[soalbundy]

8 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Trump can’t handle anyone openly standing up to him, especially not when it’s a woman who’s obviously a lot smarter than Trump. Remember how he went after that female bishop last week, who just asked him to treat everyone with decency and compassion?

Greenland is not alone, Trump is losing friends and making enemies fast, Mexico and Canada will be having a trade war with the US and no doubt China will join in, Europe won't sit idly by when Trump starts blustering in their direction, he's already moaning about the trade imbalance with Europe, hey Donny, it's called capitalism, you know, making quality products than Americans like to buy with debt.

[Jim Blue]

It seems the games have commenced!

[soalbundy]

23 hours ago, soalbundy said:

This isn't 1939 and Greenland isn't Poland, Keep away Donald you're lowering the tone of the neighbourhood

I just saw an article explaining why Trump is suddenly praising Starmer after earlier vilifying him. In 1917, when the UK was still a world power, the UK decided to block Americas efforts to buy Greenland from Denmark, which it had tried to do many times, because this would hem in Canada from the West with Alaska and from the East with Greenland, so the UK signed an agreement with Denmark that if ever they were to sell Greenland the UK would have first refusal, America showed agreement with this treaty. Trump wasn't aware of this (there's a surprise, Trump not knowing history) until the Danish PM explained it to him. Now he is going to do a bit of groveling to Starmer who is ''Doing a great job''.

[rudi49jr]

This just in: Denmark is going to spend 2 billion euro to strengthen Greenland’s defense capabilities. So on the one hand, Trump has gotten his way: a NATO member is going to spend considerably more money on defense. On the other hand, they do that to keep another NATO member (the USA) from using their military to take Greenland by force. 
These are weird times that we live in. 

[CallumWK]

3 hours ago, soalbundy said:

In 1917, when the UK was still a world power, the UK decided to block Americas efforts to buy Greenland from Denmark, which it had tried to do many times,

 

Thanks for confirming this isn't something that exists only in trump's head, but it has been going on long before Trump was even born.

[soalbundy]

2 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Thanks for confirming this isn't something that exists only in trump's head, but it has been going on long before Trump was even born.

yes, they also tried buying Canada back then but Britain refused. Megalomania isn't new. 

[WDSmart]

Despicable! 😠

[mrwebb8825]

On 1/27/2025 at 4:46 AM, Walker88 said:

I believe the Pentagon is obliged to attack the aggressor, which means sending a couple of Tomahawk Cruise Missiles into the Oval Office.

 

I guess some patriots could also set up a gallows in Lafayette Square and then storm the White House to eradicate the vermin.

So...Attacking the white house is now a GOOD idea?!?! Only a warped Trump Derangement Syndrome suffering DEM would think that.