Due to Thai Night-Sky Loss: I am planning a move to the Gobi Desert. For the stars…

[Ralf001]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

  You do write some bo!!ox Gamma....     you studied at the University of Pisa ??? 

a while back he was dribbling on about some university in Canada , McGill I think it was.

[GammaGlobulin]

12 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

a while back he was dribbling on about some university in Canada , McGill I think it was.

 

Great school, by the way.

 

 

Wish I were there....about....NOW!

 

 

 

 

 

[Baht Simpson]

Many years ago I went to one of the Similan Islands, Koh Miang. Stayed two nights. Only 1 hour of electric from a generator for a shower between 5pm and 6pm, then complete darkness. We would lay on the beach looking up at the firmament. You could hardly put a pin between the stars. It was astonishing.

 

The only downside was the dreadful day tourists who arrived in a flood of boats during the day. 

 

A real trek getting there and back but worth it for the night sky.

 

 

[save the frogs]

the smartass rabbi. haha ... that's a good one.

 

 

[LALes]

I remember camping in the high Sierra of Yosemite National Park in the early 70s.  Looking up from my sleeping bag out in the open was a very humbling site.  Hard to get that feeling in the modern world.  Good luck in your search.

[klauskunkel]

All five of Utah’s national parks are International Dark Sky Parks, meaning they have exceptionally dark skies and are protected from light pollution.

https://www.myutahparks.com/photos/utah-night-sky-photography/

 

(looks like inserting links aren't working on AN at the moment)

[Globalres]

I lived in South Africa, 1982-1994, in the Johannesburg area, I saw the milky way almost every night.  Amazing stars every night, obviously not on cloudy nights.  Amazing, still miss it.

[GammaGlobulin]

17 minutes ago, Globalres said:

I lived in South Africa, 1982-1994, in the Johannesburg area, I saw the milky way almost every night.  Amazing stars every night, obviously not on cloudy nights.  Amazing, still miss it.

 

There is something in our makeup that demands access to these things, such as the natural starry night, and a clear mountain brook with trees and bees, autumn leaves without the sound of jet aircraft buzzing overhead.

 

All this is gone, in most places where humans live.

 

No doubt, the impact of this separation between man and natural environment has already been deeply felt, and the impact immense.

 

 

[kingstonkid]

Has op looked at the islands Samed has beaches and open sky no big lights 

[simon43]

You wanna live in a city and have no lights at night?  Come and live in Myanmar!  I just returned a few weeks ago from a Christmas trip to the town of Nyaung Shwe (Inle Lake).  They have only 3 hours of electricity per day.  Mandalay (where I was teaching) has about 4 hours a day.  Don't assume that there's a generator!  When I exercised outside my Mandalay hotel at 6am (just before sunrise), the sky was absolutely clear and planets and stars easily visible.

[GammaGlobulin]

1 hour ago, kingstonkid said:

Has op looked at the islands Samed has beaches and open sky no big lights 

 

Nice island, for sure.

However, really too much light pollution there, or at least the atmospheric conditions are not optimal for proper star viewing.

 

If you had mentioned Chile, for example, then I could not agree more.

 

The problem is water vapor in the atmosphere as one nears the equator.

 

Cold air is drier, warmer air holds more water vapor.

 

For example: Chile's ELT... Extremely Large Telescope

 

Those lasers are IMPORTANT!!!!

 

 

This giant is about half-way to completion.

 

 

 

I would move to Chile, instead of the Gobi, except for the fact that ....

I really don't like heights.

 

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

6 minutes ago, simon43 said:

You wanna live in a city and have no lights at night?  Come and live in Myanmar!  I just returned a few weeks ago from a Christmas trip to the town of Nyaung Shwe (Inle Lake).  They have only 3 hours of electricity per day.  Mandalay (where I was teaching) has about 4 hours a day.  Don't assume that there's a generator!  When I exercised outside my Mandalay hotel at 6am (just before sunrise), the sky was absolutely clear and planets and stars easily visible.

 

So then....

Do you generate your own electrical power?

Or, do you just do without.

 

Personally, I would like to live in a place like that if I had enough solar and sufficient battery storage capacity.

 

Do you wish to post the coordinates of your house?

 

[Globalres]

5 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

There is something in our makeup that demands access to these things, such as the natural starry night, and a clear mountain brook with trees and bees, autumn leaves without the sound of jet aircraft buzzing overhead.

 

All this is gone, in most places where humans live.

 

No doubt, the impact of this separation between man and natural environment has already been deeply felt, and the impact immense.

 

 

Yes, unfortunately man has decided to ruin many things.  Even medicine these days is copied in a lab with synthetic molecules which the body does not recognise.  On top of it we pay premium 💰for these copies and hope to get healthy.   Can you imagine people spending exponentially higher prices for copy handbags rather than the real stuff, the real stuff which at least if handled with care will last for 50-100 yrs or more.  Not saying one should spend a fortune on handbags etc, just an analogy.