Trump's Trade War to Raise Prices on a Wide Range of Products

[Lacessit]

10 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Only thing left for trump is to put tariffs on thailand, make the posters here a little less smug

I am not selling anything to America, and I am not buying anything from America either, except Kindle books which are a discretionary choice.

 

Please tell me how I am affected by this nonsense.

[Lacessit]

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

I'm amused to see the same people bashing Americans forever for our consumerism and being addicted to cheap imported goods are now so concerned that the price of cheap imported crap may go up.

 

Not concerned at all, just enjoying the spectacle of MAGA's suddenly realizing they are being thrown under the bus along with everyone else.

[hotsun]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I am not selling anything to America, and I am not buying anything from America either, except Kindle books which are a discretionary choice.

 

Please tell me how I am affected by this nonsense.

Depends if Thailand still wants to join BRICS after trumps threat. If he wants he can crash their economy, and youd be affected

[Yellowtail]

Just now, Lacessit said:

Not concerned at all, just enjoying the spectacle of MAGA's suddenly realizing they are being thrown under the bus along with everyone else.

MAGAs are not realizing that. It's only leftists that are obsessed with Trump saying that. 

 

Poor, poor leftist. 

[Lacessit]

5 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Depends if Thailand still wants to join BRICS after trumps threat. If he wants he can crash their economy, and youd be affected

How? Be specific, please.

[hotsun]

Just now, Lacessit said:

How? Be specific, please.

Similar to how canada knows theyre in deep <deleted> because of trudeau. Is that specific enough?

[Lacessit]

6 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Similar to how canada knows theyre in deep <deleted> because of trudeau. Is that specific enough?

Don't waste my time with vague assertions.

[Lacessit]

14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

MAGAs are not realizing that. It's only leftists that are obsessed with Trump saying that. 

 

Poor, poor leftist. 

Actually, you are the leftist. On a Gaussian curve of IQ.

[chercheur888]

15 hours ago, uncletiger said:

 

Satanism.

You better increase your hourly intake of your Fentanyl. All your comments clearly confirm that your dose is too low and you should get to the same level as ALL the MAGA people who are the biggest consumers of Fentanyl and the US is not capable to satisfy the demand, that' why other countries have to supply.

[Yellowtail]

40 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Actually, you are the leftist. On a Gaussian curve of IQ.

From an old man that brags that having sex with a Thai girl proves he's not a racist. 

[Yagoda]

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

From an old man that brags that having sex with a Thai girl proves he's not a racist. 

Nothing wrong with smashing some young Thai lovely and still believing in the superiority of Western Judeo Christian Euro-American culture, which is open to anyone who wants to participate

 

I like Romanian and Ukrainian girls too.

[NoDisplayName]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I like the idea of punishing the Chinese government just as much as the next guy

 

Headmaster Trump to American consumers, "Now drop yer drawers and bend over", speaking loudly and brandishing his tariff stick, "This'll hurt y'all more than it does the Chinese.  MIGA!"

 

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[NoDisplayName]

36 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

From an old man that brags that having sex with a Thai girl proves he's not a racist. 

 

Who knew Ashley was adopted from Thailand!

[Negita43]

https://practicalpie.com/megalomaniac/

[248900_1469958220]

The left were a bunch of retards..this is why, like him or not we have Trump. Biden was a disaster and Harris was insufferable. Its a total mess. Lets see what he can do...one good thing is we wont have LGBTQ non issues  shoved down our throats for a few years. 

[Sandboxer]

20 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Unfortunately it is not just the MAGA misguided followers who will suffer from Trump's nonsense!

 

Blue voters on average have more wealth/income/education, so it's really one of those "this is going to hurt you more than it's going to hurt me" things.

 

I generally dislike most cultural aspects of MuriKKKa, so either way it'll be fun to watch the world's only true expansionist/imperialist nation being brought to its knees by its idiot voters' (both sides) own choices. 

 

Just feel sorry for the (20% or so) reasonably well adjusted ones.

[LosLobo]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Not concerned at all, just enjoying the spectacle of MAGA's suddenly realizing they are being thrown under the bus along with everyone else.

Reminds me of this cartoon about MAGA's, released the week before election.
 

 

[Yellowtail]

13 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Reminds me of this cartoon about MAGA's, released the week before election.
 

 

Look at all the poor leftists around the billboard. 

 

 

[LosLobo]

44 minutes ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

The left were a bunch of retards..this is why, like him or not we have Trump. Biden was a disaster and Harris was insufferable. Its a total mess. Lets see what he can do...one good thing is we wont have LGBTQ non issues  shoved down our throats for a few years. 

A profound analysis straight from Palookasville—where big dreams of intellectualism crash into the brick wall of reality. A classic tale of overconfidence, miscalculation, and self-inflicted failure. Just like Trump.

 

As a movie fan, why not list your location as Capitol City? You know, the town from Idiocracy.

[xylophone]

The best, most cogent and elegantly simple explanation into the inexplicably destructive negotiating processes of the president, by Prof. David Honig of Indiana University.

Everybody should read this accurate and enlightening piece......

 

“I’m going to get a little wonky and write about Donald Trump and negotiations. For those who don't know, I'm an adjunct professor at Indiana University - Robert H. McKinney School of Law and I teach negotiations. Okay, here goes.

 

Trump, as most of us know, is the credited author of "The Art of the Deal," a book that was actually ghost written by a man named Tony Schwartz, who was given access to Trump and wrote based upon his observations. If you've read The Art of the Deal, or if you've followed Trump lately, you'll know, even if you didn't know the label, that he sees all dealmaking as what we call "distributive bargaining."

 

Distributive bargaining always has a winner and a loser. It happens when there is a fixed quantity of something and two sides are fighting over how it gets distributed. Think of it as a pie and you're fighting over who gets how many pieces. In Trump's world, the bargaining was for a building, or for construction work, or subcontractors. He perceives a successful bargain as one in which there is a winner and a loser, so if he pays less than the seller wants, he wins. The more he saves the more he wins.

 

The other type of bargaining is called integrative bargaining. In integrative bargaining the two sides don't have a complete conflict of interest, and it is possible to reach mutually beneficial agreements. Think of it, not a single pie to be divided by two hungry people, but as a baker and a caterer negotiating over how many pies will be baked at what prices, and the nature of their ongoing relationship after this one gig is over.

 

The problem with Trump is that he sees only distributive bargaining in an international world that requires integrative bargaining. He can raise tariffs, but so can other countries. He can't demand they not respond. There is no defined end to the negotiation and there is no simple winner and loser. There are always more pies to be baked. Further, negotiations aren't binary. China's choices aren't (a) buy soybeans from US farmers, or (b) don't buy soybeans. They can also (c) buy soybeans from Russia, or Argentina, or Brazil, or Canada, etc. That completely strips the distributive bargainer of his power to win or lose, to control the negotiation.

 

One of the risks of distributive bargaining is bad will. In a one-time distributive bargain, e.g. negotiating with the cabinet maker in your casino about whether you're going to pay his whole bill or demand a discount, you don't have to worry about your ongoing credibility or the next deal. If you do that to the cabinet maker, you can bet he won't agree to do the cabinets in your next casino, and you're going to have to find another cabinet maker.

 

There isn't another Canada. So when you approach international negotiation, in a world as complex as ours, with integrated economies and multiple buyers and sellers, you simply must approach them through integrative bargaining. If you attempt distributive bargaining, success is impossible. And we see that already.

 

Trump has raised tariffs on China. China responded, in addition to raising tariffs on US goods, by dropping all its soybean orders from the US and buying them from Russia. The effect is not only to cause tremendous harm to US farmers, but also to increase Russian revenue, making Russia less susceptible to sanctions and boycotts, increasing its economic and political power in the world, and reducing ours. Trump saw steel and aluminum and thought it would be an easy win, BECAUSE HE SAW ONLY STEEL AND ALUMINUM - HE SEES EVERY NEGOTIATION AS DISTRIBUTIVE. China saw it as integrative, and integrated Russia and its soybean purchase orders into a far more complex negotiation ecosystem.

 

Trump has the same weakness politically. For every winner there must be a loser. And that's just not how politics works, not over the long run.

 

For people who study negotiations, this is incredibly basic stuff, negotiations 101, definitions you learn before you even start talking about styles and tactics. And here's another huge problem for us.

 

Trump is utterly convinced that his experience in a closely held real estate company has prepared him to run a nation, and therefore he rejects the advice of people who spent entire careers studying the nuances of international negotiations and diplomacy. But the leaders on the other side of the table have not eschewed expertise, they have embraced it. And that means they look at Trump and, given his very limited tool chest and his blindly distributive understanding of negotiation, they know exactly what he is going to do and exactly how to respond to it.

 

From a professional negotiation point of view, Trump isn't even bringing checkers to a chess match. He's bringing a quarter that he insists of flipping for heads or tails, while everybody else is studying the chess board to decide whether its better to open with Najdorf or Grünfeld.”

— David Honig

 

[jerrymahoney]

Looks like the $US vs. Thai baht has taken a nice jump today.

[simple1]

On 2/2/2025 at 4:35 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Hopefully it will increase the price of fentanyl.

 

Have to LOL at Canada and Mexico's stupidity here, they choose to cripple their economies rather than implement common sense border control. Morons. How many hours until they do a 180? I'll give it a week tops.

 

Illegal migrant crossings from Canada to USA represent APPROX 1.2% of the current annual total and Fentanyl border seizures about 0.2% entering USA, would be fairly tough to improve on those stats. Maybe trump can come up with a trillion dollars to build a border fence to reduce the numbers by say 10% - Lol.... 

As the Russians have found cracking down on heroin only lead to the development of and even more addictive and destructive drug "krokodil" What's trump planning to do regards illegal drug consumption in the US, arrest all drug users, build camps in Alaska to house them until they're drug free, send them back to US and repeat? Or has he actually got a workable realistic plan on how to change the US drug culture and transform society - don't think so.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

The left were a bunch of retards..this is why, like him or not we have Trump. Biden was a disaster and Harris was insufferable. Its a total mess. Lets see what he can do...one good thing is we wont have LGBTQ non issues  shoved down our throats for a few years. 

Trump will be coming from another direction. BOHICA.