Canada

[Jingthing]

8 hours ago, uncletiger said:

 

It's not really insane. Canada is trying to manipulate the situation to elect another radical left globalist rather than just calling for immediate elections that would see the Liberals driven from power.

 

You don't accept that we are in a very real war, but it is true. This isn't about Trump or MAGA. This is about driving the globalist criminal syndicate and their puppet regimes from power globally. They are an actual enemy to the United States of America. We can't afford to allow an enemy to control territory and attack us from our northern border. (Through drugs, terrorism and human trafficking.) And make no mistake, Trudeau (and his Liberal party) and the globalist cabal he works for are the enemy. America is a great friend of the Canadian people. But their government has sided with the sworn enemy of America. The Liberal government in Canada has to go. The Canadians need to pick a side and understand the seriousness of the situation. This is a global battle. Choose wisely.

Speaking of insane. 

[impulse]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I bet you're a Tucker Carlson fanboy.

 

I do watch a lot of his interviews.  His voice, style and cackling make me cringe, but he gets fascinating guests. 

 

The question is, why would anyone object to hearing from the other side, if only to understand what they're thinking and what we're dealing with.  Lack of curiosity isn't a virtue, and neither is willful ignorance.  Contrary to what a lot of posters think.

 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

I do watch a lot of his interviews.  His voice, style and cackling make me cringe, but he gets fascinating guests. 

 

The question is, why would anyone object to hearing from the other side, if only to understand what they're thinking and what we're dealing with.  Lack of curiosity isn't a virtue, and neither is willful ignorance.  Contrary to what a lot of posters think.

 

He's a tool for Putin. Duh. 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, mania said:

 

555 Say's the guy who was calling Hillary & Kamala madame President & telling everyone to get used to it because its a done deal. I guess some folks definition of clueless is different 🤔

You're confused.
Being wrong about an election prediction doesn't make the winner a good president. 

[theshu25]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

He's a tool for Putin. Duh. 

Don't you mean he is just a tool.

[jas007]

10 hours ago, theblether said:

I've got to be honest, I'm a bit confused about Trump's attitude to Canada. He can't seriously expect them to become the 51st state so there must be something else at play - any guesses? 

 

Setting that to the side, I can see why he got annoyed re illegal immigration from Canada - Mexicans worked out they could fly there and enter overland as mentioned on this link. 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-tariffs-immigration-canada-b2653974.html

 

 

Why not just take it at face value?  Why should the USA be supporting Canada? And why should the USA not be concerned with the continued flow of illegals and drugs across the border?  The USA needs nothing from Canada.  And Canada is already in trouble, economically.  So they either change a few policies or perish.  Why wouldn't that be Trump's thinking?

[Hummin]

8 hours ago, uncletiger said:

 

It's not really insane. Canada is trying to manipulate the situation to elect another radical left globalist rather than just calling for immediate elections that would see the Liberals driven from power.

 

You don't accept that we are in a very real war, but it is true. This isn't about Trump or MAGA. This is about driving the globalist criminal syndicate and their puppet regimes from power globally. They are an actual enemy to the United States of America. We can't afford to allow an enemy to control territory and attack us from our northern border. (Through drugs, terrorism and human trafficking.) And make no mistake, Trudeau (and his Liberal party) and the globalist cabal he works for are the enemy. America is a great friend of the Canadian people. But their government has sided with the sworn enemy of America. The Liberal government in Canada has to go. The Canadians need to pick a side and understand the seriousness of the situation. This is a global battle. Choose wisely.

 

Just an healthy friendly reminder to the Canadian people? 

 

 

[impulse]

4 hours ago, candide said:

Canada should strike a deal with the EU on joint development of Greenland. It would be the ideal partner for Greenland.

 

The EU would swamp Greenland's 57,000 citizens with so many boat people that they'd be voting in Sharia law in just a few years.

 

[JimHuaHin]

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You're totally wrong.

He does seriously want to gobble up Canada.

He's a PSYCHOPATH! He has delusions of being seen as the greatest president for so increasing the USA's territory.

The feeling from Canada is not mutual.

He is now seen internationally in the same light as Putin.

Same as Putin?

 

More like Adolf Hitler.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Why not just take it at face value?  Why should the USA be supporting Canada? And why should the USA not be concerned with the continued flow of illegals and drugs across the border?  The USA needs nothing from Canada.  And Canada is already in trouble, economically.  So they either change a few policies or perish.  Why wouldn't that be Trump's thinking?

Trudeau tried to get a call through to Trump for days leading to this action to TALK about what kinds of agreements could be done to prevent this escalation. Trump wouldn't take his calls. He also said explicitly in a presser that he didn't want to talk. 

He's like a toddler playing with his tariff weapon toy as if tariffs are the only way to conduct foreign relations.

 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, JimHuaHin said:

Same as Putin?

 

More like Adolf Hitler.

Trump is inspired by many dictators. 

[hotsun]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Trudeau tried to get a call through to Trump for days leading to this action to TALK about what kinds of agreements could be done to prevent this escalation. Trump wouldn't take his calls. He also said explicitly in a presser that he didn't want to talk. 

He's like a toddler playing with his tariff weapon toy as if tariffs are the only way to conduct foreign relations.

 

Thats because trudeau has been a very bad boy. And he knows it

[phetphet]

Trump is a property developer. All he sees is undeveloped land to make money from. Canada, Greenland are money making opportunities for him and his billionaire cronies.

Even the Presidency is only a money making opportunity. Look and his and Melania's meme coins, and the fact he keeps holding all his big gatherings at his commercial properties. i.e. Mar-a-Lago.

 

Elon won't be happy either when Canada starts adding 100% tariffs on Tesla cars.

[Jingthing]

 

1 minute ago, hotsun said:

Thats because trudeau has been a very bad boy. And he knows it

That's bull. He's the current representative of his country and he has already resigned.

[hotsun]

Just now, Jingthing said:

 

That's bull. He's the current representative of his country and he has already resigned.

About time too. That guy couldnt read the room for so long already

[Hummin]

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Trudeau tried to get a call through to Trump for days leading to this action to TALK about what kinds of agreements could be done to prevent this escalation. Trump wouldn't take his calls. He also said explicitly in a presser that he didn't want to talk. 

He's like a toddler playing with his tariff weapon toy as if tariffs are the only way to conduct foreign relations.

 

Just distractions and to please his followers that he is doing something, when he is obviously struggling with his real promisses. Now stirring up so much deleted, that he can put blaim on others why he do not succeeding. 

 

Trump strategy

[Jingthing]

So Trump is explicitly telling the world that he wants to annex Canada.

He's made the first aggressive action.

Canada retaliates but from a far weaker position.

If the USA wanted to invade would it be a five days operation like Putin presumed in Ukraine or could or would Canada actually defend itself.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Just distractions and to please his followers that he is doing something, when he is obviously struggling with his real promisses. Now stirring up so much deleted, that he can put blaim on others why he do not succeeding. 

 

Trump strategy

Bull.

His followers don't want to annex Canada.

His followers didn't even want to tariff Canada.

Yes Mexico has been demonized but not Canada.

Face reality. We're dealing with an unhinged PSYCHOPATH in the most powerful role in the world.

[impulse]

10 minutes ago, phetphet said:

All he sees is undeveloped land to make money from. Canada, Greenland are money making opportunities for him and his billionaire cronies.

 

I'm sure that's what they said about buying Alaska, too.  And Louisiana territory. They've worked out okay.

 

 

[Dcheech]

Canada & Mexico have ordered retaliatory sanctions. 

How long has Trump been in office  .... Two weeks now. 

[Lacessit]

43 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Where do you get your pearls of wisdom?  The USA is a net exporter of oil.  If you took Canadian oil completely off the table, we'd swap out a couple of valves and reroute a few tankers and the Canadian oil would soon be replaced with oil from elsewhere.  It would be painful for a few months...

 

Canada, OTOH, would be royally hosed.  Because they're extremely limited in their capacity to ship oil anywhere beside the USA.  I think somewhere around 75% of their oil would be locked in Canada because of the port limitations.  They need the US market more than Americans need Canada's oil.

 

So who's the crazy one?

 

The refineries in Middle America process heavy crude from Canada. They are not equipped to process light shale oil. It's not a matter of swapping a few valves, genius.

 

Guess what? The tariffs Trump has put on Canada have been responded to in kind. One Canadian governor has directed all alcohol coming from any US red state be taken off supermarket shelves.

 

Let the circus begin.

[Hamus Yaigh]

So due to Americas inability to control its own drug addiction it is throwing the blame on everyone else instead like China, Mexico and Canada?

 

Instead of addressing the root causes of drug addiction, such as poverty, lack of mental health services, and limited access to addiction treatment, the US government has often focused on external factors like drug trafficking and drug-producing countries. This approach shifts blame and responsibility away from the US, but it doesn’t solve the core problems.

[hotsun]

2 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

So due to Americas inability to control its own drug addiction it is throwing the blame on everyone else instead like China, Mexico and Canada?

 

Instead of addressing the root causes of drug addiction, such as poverty, lack of mental health services, and limited access to addiction treatment, the US government has often focused on external factors like drug trafficking and drug-producing countries. This approach shifts blame and responsibility away from the US, but it doesn’t solve the core problems.

Maybe you dont live there, and dont know how many criminals that the Biden administration allowed into the country

[herfiehandbag]

10 hours ago, theblether said:

I've got to be honest, I'm a bit confused about Trump's attitude to Canada. He can't seriously expect them to become the 51st state so there must be something else at play - any guesses? 

 

Setting that to the side, I can see why he got annoyed re illegal immigration from Canada - Mexicans worked out they could fly there and enter overland as mentioned on this link. 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-tariffs-immigration-canada-b2653974.html

 

 

Long term money. Canada, and Greenland, both have significant resources in minerals, fossil fuels and other resources. The diminution of the polar icecaps will open up access to these resources. Lots of money to be made.

 

Likewise the "NorthWest Passage" through Greenland and Canadian waters is opening up to shipping. Control of this passage, if aggressively managed, (together with control of the Panama Canal) would put the US firmly in control of a massive proportion of global trade. The money making opportunities are immense.

 

Greenland he sees as simple, US takes the territory. They have the power, and I doubt he cares, or has thought through, any international or alliance ramifications.

 

Canada, well that's more difficult. If he decides that the US can take over no doubt he will try, destroying their economy is a first step. He isn't interested in the cities of the southern or maritime  provinces, it's the lands up north; if those cities are ruined Canada may fall to the US, or perhaps some sort of economic colonisation.

 

Now like most rich men approaching old age Trump thinks he will live "for ever", but even he must realise that he will not live to see the financial benefits of the US owning and exploiting Canada and Greenland; but he is shrewd enough to realise that his backers will be persuaded to provide the money to "see him out", and to cement his political regime in place for the foreseeable future, on the promise of the money they will make.

 

Money.

[Hummin]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Bull.

His followers don't want to annex Canada.

His followers didn't even want to tariff Canada.

Yes Mexico has been demonized but not Canada.

Face reality. We're dealing with an unhinged PSYCHOPATH in the most powerful role in the world.

Obviously some of his fans doesnt speak up to loud yet, and hope you are right. 

 

Still an perfect distraction from everything else. 

 

And cant deny he do have a stong label connected to his mental state, which his followers thinks is acceptable to be running the world most powerful country, but who of the most famous world leaders,  didnt have one? 

 

 

[impulse]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The refineries in Middle America process heavy crude from Canada. They are not equipped to process light shale oil. It's not a matter of swapping a few valves, genius.

 

Your claim was that over 50% of Americans' oil comes from Canada.  That's patently false.  We export more oil than we import.

 

Canada produces 4.6 million BOPD a day.  The US refines 18+ million BOPD.  Does that sound like 50%?  Canada just massively increased their west coast export capacity from 300K to 890K BOPD.  What do you figure they'd do with the other 3.7 million BOPD if American refineries won't buy it? 

 

Who's got who by the short and curlies?

 

And yes.  It's a lot easier to swap a refinery to handle light sweet crude than to go the other way and take on the nasty crap that Canada produces.  That's why there's always been a big price differential, and not in Canada's favor.

 

 

[kwonitoy]

31 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The refineries in Middle America process heavy crude from Canada. They are not equipped to process light shale oil. It's not a matter of swapping a few valves, genius.

 

Guess what? The tariffs Trump has put on Canada have been responded to in kind. One Canadian governor has directed all alcohol coming from any US red state be taken off supermarket shelves.

 

Let the circus begin.

 

We don't have governor's

Premier Doug Ford of Ontario has removed US liquor from the stores

Ontario alone consumes 1 billion dollars of liquor from the us, other provinces are responding in kind.

 

On the radio today the head of the auto parts supplier consortium estimates it will be about 1 week for the auto plants on BOTH sides of the border to be shut down do to supply issues. Some parts cross the border several times to make one car and each time it crossed it is tariffed.

Guess what, if they can't make a profit they close down.

People do not understand how intertwined the auto sector is between Canada and the us.

 

circus indeed

 

[Elvis Presley]

Canada should be another US state.

 

That nut-job Trudeau has destroyed the country. 

 

Incorporate it into the USA and watch it prosper.

[Ben Zioner]

11 hours ago, theblether said:

I've got to be honest, I'm a bit confused about Trump's attitude to Canada. He can't seriously expect them to become the 51st state so there must be something else at play - any guesses? 

 

Setting that to the side, I can see why he got annoyed re illegal immigration from Canada - Mexicans worked out they could fly there and enter overland as mentioned on this link. 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-tariffs-immigration-canada-b2653974.html

 

 

Ropeable?

 

Didn't get his last distemper shot?

 

Too much Ivermectin?

 

Or an adverse reaction to his self administered IV antiseptic Covid treatment.

[WorriedNoodle]

The dumbest trade war in history.

 

The Wall Street Journal headline of the year!