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Angela Rayner’s Plan for Islamophobia Council Sparks Free Speech Concerns

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42 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

So, you cannot define what Islamophobia means; which makes your comment about the most bizarre and deflective that you have ever posted.

 

How can you possibly offer examples of a word that you cannot even define ?

 

And I take great exception if the examples you have used are referring to me, because if they are, they are totally false and I suggest you withdraw them.

 

I have had, as mentioned previously, years of interactions with many muslims in the UK, and I have been told first hand by predominately Pakistani male muslims, that their Sharia councils are fully aware of, and approve of such practices; as do the local Imams.

 

 

 

You’re not paying attention are you?!

 

Read the OP, it’s about determining an official definition of Islamophobia.

 

“How can you possibly offer examples of a word that you cannot even define ?”

 

I’ve given you two examples of your own Islamophobic hate mongering. Certainly meets my own definition of Islamophobia, and my definition of lying too.

 

I take anything you have to say about your interactions with Muslims in context with your record of Islamophobic hate mongering and adherence to a diversion from truth on the matter.

 
 

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I don’t  think Labour are trying to define Islamophobia, but rather redefine it to make it a criminal offence to contravene whatever their final definition is; this is being done to appease the muslim block vote, a road they have been going down for so long now that there is no turning back.

 

Everyone should be deeply apprehensive about what final definition Labour arrive at, because they already have a policy that is fraught with jeopardy. It deploys the dangerous trope, that of “perceived” discrimination. This is based on the subjective notion that prejudice need not be proved by empirical evidence, but exists because some people believe or sense it. It is an accusation that cannot be denied because it cannot be proved or disproved; everything remains subjective, and would put the police in an even more impossible situation.

 

It would mean that if anyone criticised Islam for the practices of child marriage, FGM, muslim rape gangs, or honour killings, they could be prosecuted if someone perceived it as discrimination, even though those practices are against UK law; we witnessed an example of this with the treatment of Telegraph journalist Allison Pearson, over a “perceived” hate incident last year.

 

It is a very dangerous road to go down, it is a Blasphemy law by the back door, specifically to appease the UK’s muslims; but no doubt this appalling Labour government will go ahead, as they continue to marginalise white working class Brits, for the prioritisation of the muslim block vote. God help us.

 

 

26 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

It would mean that if anyone criticised Islam for the practices of child marriage, FGM, muslim rape gangs, or honour killings, they could be prosecuted if someone perceived it as discrimination, even though those practices are against UK law; we witnessed an example of this with the treatment of Telegraph journalist Allison Pearson, over a “perceived” hate incident last year.

Seems like a bit of presumption on your part.

 

The racists had already started stating the Swedish mass shooter was a muslim. Salivating they were. Bob in Pattaya, reading the daily mail with a British breakfast was growling with anti muslim rhetoric "they don't assimilate them", the media were sending reporters to Sweden from all over the world, X was going nuts with muslim bashing, even the richest guy in the world was mentioning it. 

 

Turns out it was a white guy. Cue story buried, never spoken of again. Mental health. No riots. No casitgating christiananity or white people. Posts quickly removed for fear of shame by some major celebrities / news reporters too.

 

Shameful. RIP to all those who lost their lives. The media are scum and playing to racists. 

 

 

 

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On 2/5/2025 at 6:55 AM, PomPolo said:

I can happily say I don't have any Muslim friends, it's not that I don't want any Muslim friends, its just they are such a self-isolated community in general they have no interest in integrating with non-Muslims either, however if we approached things that way we would be banged up on some 'stupid cow' initiated Islamophobia charge in the future, the country has gone to sht.

 

 

What is it you would like to say to them that you can't ? Or does it mean you don't want your 'rite' to be abusive, racist to be infringed upon? 

 

This is just about having a definition of what islamaphobia is, for it to be clear to everyone, including the courts There is a definition for Jews anti senitism. There is definition for racism too. There is a definition for homophobia. Definition for sexism in the work place. Nothing wrong here. 

 

11 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

This is just about having a definition of what islamaphobia is, for it to be clear to everyone, including the courts

 

This is exactly what the problem is “including the courts” muslim leaders in the UK have been lobbying UK governments for a blasphemy law for many years; the purpose is obvious, it is to make any, and all criticism of Islam, Muslimness, or perceived Muslimness a criminal offence; and establishing a legal definition of Islamophobia, will do exactly that.

 

It is an attack on the UK’s democracy and the right to free speech of its population; thankfully you don’t get to vote in the UK, because your anti-British, pro Islamic attitude is part of the problem.

 

 

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