Rising Anti-Israel Sentiments in Pai Following Tourists Misconduct

[Hummin]

  On 2/11/2025 at 2:05 AM, Aussie999 said:

Mate, you made this claim "Long time now since I saw any, but patong used to have quite a few." so is irrelevant to something current... Plesa, next time remember what you post. 

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And you just being an ass. We both know there is still signs popping up after the last events, and also last reports from cancellation of bookings in Europe, it is an old phenomenon reappearing. 

 

I have actually never seen any other nationality being denied access before. So, again, sharing my experience, same as everyone else. 

 

Myself wanted to ban Polish and German tourist fishing groups in Norway, because they bring all their food, and drinks, even diesel to their cars. Huge fridges to bring their fish back home. Even the law is only 18kg filet, and they go home with 100kg or more. 

 

Should we be allowed to deny them access because of their former countrymen behavior? 

 

We truly despise them when they come and abuse our liberal system and rules for free travelling and kind offer to fish fresh fish. We did deny certain groups based on earlier experiences on requests. Was that wrong by us? 

 

 

[Taco]

Every business owner has the right to refuse service. In koh phangan we have many negative issues with young Israelis. They running around thinking they own the place. It’s good Pai is standing up to behavior they don’t want. If putting a sign up keeps rude and rowdy customers out, good. Many businesses owners want to have more mature customers.  If some well behaved Israelis can’t go to enjoy certain places (like Bali) then talk to your fellow Israelis and get them to act more civilized.

[madone]

  On 2/11/2025 at 12:48 AM, Hummin said:

Had a few  adhd/ptsd friends where smoking pot made their hyperactivity worsened and also their decision making as well aggressiveness 

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sure you did

[Hummin]

  On 2/11/2025 at 2:53 AM, madone said:

 

sure you did

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So, what's your problem? 

[Aussie999]

  On 2/11/2025 at 2:19 AM, Hummin said:

And you just being an ass. We both know there is still signs popping up after the last events, and also last reports from cancellation of bookings in Europe, it is an old phenomenon reappearing. 

 

I have actually never seen any other nationality being denied access before. So, again, sharing my experience, same as everyone else. 

 

Myself wanted to ban Polish and German tourist fishing groups in Norway, because they bring all their food, and drinks, even diesel to their cars. Huge fridges to bring their fish back home. Even the law is only 18kg filet, and they go home with 100kg or more. 

 

Should we be allowed to deny them access because of their former countrymen behavior? 

 

We truly despise them when they come and abuse our liberal system and rules for free travelling and kind offer to fish fresh fish. We did deny certain groups based on earlier experiences on requests. Was that wrong by us? 

 

 

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Mate, I do not know there are still signs, that's why I asked... and you have shown any proof that there are... so who's an ass, certainly not me.
this is not about Polish or German fishermen, it's irrelevant ... stay on topic. This is going nowhere... have a nice day

[Hummin]

  On 2/11/2025 at 3:11 AM, Aussie999 said:

Mate, I do not know there are still signs, that's why I asked... and you have shown any proof that there are... so who's an ass, certainly not me.
this is not about Polish or German fishermen, it's irrelevant ... stay on topic. This is going nowhere... have a nice day

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I just say, if there was no penalty, we would had officially denied Germans and polish access, and thats why it actually happens in Thailad, because the businesses doesn't fear any consequences. 

 

 

 

 

[frank83628]

They don't have a bad reputation for no reason. Its Nothing to do with antisemitism, the marority are just arrogant, argumentative and basically rude mannered.

 

[MalcolmB]

  On 2/11/2025 at 12:46 AM, Aussie999 said:

I have lived in Thailand a few years.. have never seen any such signs... can you post a few, and their location and the business.

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I didn’t bother taking photos of them so I am not sure what you want me post? 
Enough people have corroborated this, it is fine if you want to bury your head in the sand.

[MalcolmB]

  On 2/11/2025 at 3:44 AM, frank83628 said:

They don't have a bad reputation for no reason. Its Nothing to do with antisemitism, the marority are just arrogant, argumentative and basically rude mannered.

 

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They even have special words for deflecting criticism towards their behavior.

Anti semitism, anti Zionism etc etc.

And if anyone objects to the killing of women and children in Gaza they will be labeled “pro Palestinian” or “pro Hamas”

[Aussie999]

  On 2/11/2025 at 3:38 AM, Hummin said:

I just say, if there was no penalty, we would had officially denied Germans and polish access, and thats why it actually happens in Thailad, because the businesses doesn't fear any consequences. 

 

 

 

 

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irrelevant

[Aussie999]

  On 2/11/2025 at 3:47 AM, MalcolmB said:

I didn’t bother taking photos of them so I am not sure what you want me post? 
Enough people have corroborated this, it is fine if you want to bury your head in the sand.

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So, you cannot back up your comment...just another of your comments without substance.

[hotsun]

  On 2/11/2025 at 3:44 AM, frank83628 said:

They don't have a bad reputation for no reason. Its Nothing to do with antisemitism, the marority are just arrogant, argumentative and basically rude mannered.

 

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Basically the same as chinese and russians but theres a small amount of them so thais can afford to discriminate against them

[frank83628]

  On 2/11/2025 at 4:01 AM, hotsun said:

Basically the same as chinese and russians but theres a small amount of them so thais can afford to discriminate against them

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If there were signs up for 'no Russian' or 'no Chinese' there wouldn't be a thread about it, for some reason you are not allowed to criticise isreal without getting labelled antisemitic. I don't know why there is so much defence of that nation. 

[watchcat]

  On 2/10/2025 at 2:18 AM, connda said:

 

the British AseanNow members whooping and cheering and laughing their butts off.

But it says, "No Israelis Here" so it's "antisemitic" and everyone goes quiet.  🤔

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No we are not only 1member and he seem to have connection to Israel.

[Turd5506]

  On 2/10/2025 at 5:16 AM, Jingthing said:

No. He posted misinformation often used by ignorant Israel demonizers. 

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and you're the moral police, is that right?

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 2/11/2025 at 3:44 AM, frank83628 said:

They don't have a bad reputation for no reason. Its Nothing to do with antisemitism, the marority are just arrogant, argumentative and basically rude mannered.

 

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   Those are the traits of many posters on here 

[zaZa9]

  On 2/9/2025 at 9:28 PM, Jingthing said:

Any person, Jewish, Israeli, or anything else that supports the right of Israel to exist is pro Zionist.

You have no understanding of what Zionism means.

Zionism does not conflate with current Israeli government policies.

Most current Israelis are NOT of European descent.

You're thinking of American Jews.

The Jewish people in general most definitely do have a historical connection to Israel. 

Older than Arabs for sure.

Israeli is a Jewish majority middle eastern country.

You're spouting ignorant propaganda.

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 Yes , and their great leader Abraham  was actually an immigrant from Mesopotsmia ... they will be claiming it shortly.

[Purdey]

What happened to freedom of speech and inalienable rights? If shops don't want to serve a particular group surely, they have the right to deny service?

[frank83628]

  On 2/11/2025 at 5:17 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Those are the traits of many posters on here 

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At least the Israelis are young ad could be forgiven somewhat,  the guys here are just bitter old codgers with nothing to do but be bitter about everything

[zaZa9]

  On 2/11/2025 at 4:17 AM, frank83628 said:

If there were signs up for 'no Russian' or 'no Chinese' there wouldn't be a thread about it, for some reason you are not allowed to criticise isreal without getting labelled antisemitic. I don't know why there is so much defence of that nation. 

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 Only 2 months back the Israel  government put out a travel warning that included Thailand and mentioned Phuket , all  because a Jewish cleric had been killed in ....wait for it .... THE UAE ! Meanwhile , while the missiles were flying , Israel was advertising it had its doors open to Intefnational Tourism and were pushing visitation ! That annoyed/ disenchanted quite a few big tourist operators here in Phuket. But lets just call them antisemetic ...555

 

[zaZa9]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:28 AM, frank83628 said:

At least the Israelis are young ad could be forgiven somewhat,  the guys here are just bitter old codgers with nothing to do but be bitter about everything

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"Quick , its getting a bit difficult here and 'ANTISEMETIC! 'isnt working. Lets just dismiss any valid points with an ageist accusation !"

[Jingthing]

  On 2/11/2025 at 2:25 AM, Taco said:

Every business owner has the right to refuse service. In koh phangan we have many negative issues with young Israelis. They running around thinking they own the place. It’s good Pai is standing up to behavior they don’t want. If putting a sign up keeps rude and rowdy customers out, good. Many businesses owners want to have more mature customers.  If some well behaved Israelis can’t go to enjoy certain places (like Bali) then talk to your fellow Israelis and get them to act more civilized.

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I'm not aware of any Thai laws prohibiting discriminatory refusal of service so I reckon you're right about businesses here having that option. But aside from laws, it's clearly not fair to paint all of any class of people in the same boat, as no class of people is a monolith. 

[Jingthing]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:23 AM, zaZa9 said:

 Yes , and their great leader Abraham  was actually an immigrant from Mesopotsmia ... they will be claiming it shortly.

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Hateful garbage and you know it. 

 

Perhaps you're missing the irony of people complaining that accusations that any and all anti-Israeli stuff is infected with antisemitism (when the obvious truth is that some is and some isn't) while at the same time thinking it's totally OK to post an explicit antisemitic trope as above.

You can't have it both ways.

[Jingthing]

  On 2/11/2025 at 4:59 AM, Turd5506 said:

and you're the moral police, is that right?

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I make no such claim.

I'm participating in the discussion here the same as others posting. 

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:35 AM, zaZa9 said:

 Only 2 months back the Israel  government put out a travel warning that included Thailand and mentioned Phuket , all  because a Jewish cleric had been killed in ....wait for it .... THE UAE ! 

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   That isn't true .

Israel had received info that a terror attack against Israelis was planned and Full moon party was the possible location . It wasn't based on the cleric in the U.A.E

   You do seem to take a lot of interest in Israel , 

[frank83628]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:39 AM, zaZa9 said:

"Quick , its getting a bit difficult here and 'ANTISEMETIC! 'isnt working. Lets just dismiss any valid points with an ageist accusation !"

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I They are 95% miserable ol gits, its just facts

[Hanaguma]

  On 2/9/2025 at 9:22 PM, RJRS1301 said:

Please understand that being anti- genocide is not anti- Semitism

Many Israelis are not Zionists

Most current Israelis are of European decent, not from Middle Eastern heritage and have no historical connection to the land

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Not true. Latest studies suggest that less than half of Israeli Jews are European or Russian descent. A similar number are North African/Asian.

[LetsGoJoe]

I recall seeing "no Israeli" signs in a few restaurants on Koh Tao like 20+yrs ago...couldn't imagine what inspired that sentiment .....😁

[georgegeorgia]

  On 2/11/2025 at 12:53 AM, Aussie999 said:

um, did you reply to the correct post... no where did I accuse them of refusing to pay, I actually asked a question... by the way, were you there... do you know something we don't... if so, let us all know.

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Now I know why we don't have brain surgeons in Australia,your evident of that ,not the smartest people the Aussies 

[Nick Carter icp]

  On 2/11/2025 at 1:50 PM, LetsGoJoe said:

I recall seeing "no Israeli" signs in a few restaurants on Koh Tao like 20+yrs ago...couldn't imagine what inspired that sentiment .....😁

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   Could be that they would group up and fight back against the local mafia families ?

  Rather than being picked off one by one ?