Rising Anti-Israel Sentiments in Pai Following Tourists Misconduct

[Jingthing]

On 2/21/2025 at 8:27 AM, Sydebolle said:

Experience, simple as that! If it says Italian food it is very obvious, that this operator cannot offer kosher food.

Had a previous experience with another chosen gentleman who ordered a vegetable soup called "Minestrone". For taste this soup contains a little bit of minced pork. His dining partner mentioned that during eating the "excellent soup" (comment by the guest). Subsequently he spat out whatever he had in his mouth and refused to pay for the soup as he would have never ordered it, if he would have known that it contained minced pork. To avoid a lifelong argument I did not charge the guest and added in the menu the reference of "contains minced pork". 

If you have such tight religious diet then you either stay at home or dine only in "certified" restaurants which, in turn, charge a fortune as kosher is difficult if not almost impossible to get and also means extensive adjustments in the kitchen (different pans etc.). 

Your call! 

Leaving out pork doesn't make it Kosher. Not even close. Anyway, I find your use of "chosen" to be intentionally snarky, but in one sense I agree with you. If a customer has any kind of special dietary needs or allergies, it's up to them to make inquiries before ordering. In this example if he was told no pork and it did have pork then that would be fair grounds for complaint. To add, nobody is expecting actual Kosher food in general restaurants. People needing fully Kosher do their own research first to find the tiny number of places in Thailand that actually have that. Pretty much Chabad places and that's it. 

For Muslims on the other hand, I am no expert on all their rules (my impression is not as difficult as Kosher) but you often see restaurants posting signs that their meat is Halal. They wouldn't serve pork either. 

[Sydebolle]

19 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Leaving out pork doesn't make it Kosher. Not even close. Anyway, I find your use of "chosen" to be intentionally snarky, but in one sense I agree with you. If a customer has any kind of special dietary needs or allergies, it's up to them to make inquiries before ordering. In this example if he was told no pork and it did have pork then that would be fair grounds for complaint. To add, nobody is expecting actual Kosher food in general restaurants. People needing fully Kosher do their own research first to find the tiny number of places in Thailand that actually have that. Pretty much Chabad places and that's it. 

For Muslims on the other hand, I am no expert on all their rules (my impression is not as difficult as Kosher) but you often see restaurants posting signs that their meat is Halal. They wouldn't serve pork either. 

It is not the pork, the seafood (except fish), the entire "kosher" set-up of food preparation, cooking and the separate equipment needed for all this ....... it is an attitude problem by some very few of the clientele. Never had an issue with a Muslim as they simply don't order non-halal food nor drink alcohol, as there is plenty of acceptable alternatives for them. 

Nobody in his right mind would expect kosher food in an Italian restaurant like nobody would enter a kosher restaurant and ask for a pork chop with a creamy mushroom sauce. 

[Sydebolle]

19 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Calling Jews "chosen people" when criticizing them, what do you think? Banning them all after just one group upset you. All sounds a little more than just refusing to be a darling for everybody. - my point!

You may have your point in as much as I have my points. No other group, religious, ethnic, or by nationality, is of the firm belief, that they are special ....... except the "chosen" people. I - for one - never chose anyone in as much as I never ever did "promise land". It is an attitude problem which I never ever had with any other group of people whereas consistently and exclusively with a few Jews (not all of them luckily). 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Sydebolle said:

You may have your point in as much as I have my points. No other group, religious, ethnic, or by nationality, is of the firm belief, that they are special ....... except the "chosen" people. I - for one - never chose anyone in as much as I never ever did "promise land". It is an attitude problem which I never ever had with any other group of people whereas consistently and exclusively with a few Jews (not all of them luckily). 

 

   In the days of Paganism, before Religion was a thing thousands of years ago . 

 A group of people believed that they were chosen to follow Religion , follow Gods instructions and they called themselves Jews.

   God chose them to be religious .

A few thousand years later , Christians and Muslims both believed that it was THEM who was chosen to follow Gods instructions and not the Jews.

    

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

You may have your point in as much as I have my points. No other group, religious, ethnic, or by nationality, is of the firm belief, that they are special ....... except the "chosen" people. I - for one - never chose anyone in as much as I never ever did "promise land". It is an attitude problem which I never ever had with any other group of people whereas consistently and exclusively with a few Jews (not all of them luckily). 

Yes I believe you, the restaurant owner that banned Jews after an experience with one group.

[Nick Carter icp]

10 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

Nobody in his right mind would expect kosher food in an Italian restaurant like nobody would enter a kosher restaurant and ask for a pork chop with a creamy mushroom sauce. 

 

   Move on and forget about it , it was 15 years ago that some Israelis ordered Kosher food from your Italian restaurant 🙂

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Sydebolle said:

It is not the pork, the seafood (except fish), the entire "kosher" set-up of food preparation, cooking and the separate equipment needed for all this ....... it is an attitude problem by some very few of the clientele. Never had an issue with a Muslim as they simply don't order non-halal food nor drink alcohol, as there is plenty of acceptable alternatives for them. 

Nobody in his right mind would expect kosher food in an Italian restaurant like nobody would enter a kosher restaurant and ask for a pork chop with a creamy mushroom sauce. 

I don't believe you that even one customer demanded a strict Kosher kitchen from you!

If there was one, that person was basically insane.

It's obvious with your "chosen" schtick that you're another one with a bug up their arse about Jews in general. You're not fooling anyone, buddy.

Again to anyone who doesn't understand this, asking for no pork or no shellfish is NOT even close to demanding an actual Kosher kitchen. 

Even with Israeli food restaurants in Thailand, most are NOT full Kosher. Chabad ones are.