Is Elon Draining the Swamp on Government Spending or Is He the Swamp?

[Terrance8812]

58 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Musk bought twitter to preserve free speech.

He definitely failed at that. It's worse now than ever.
 

58 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

He did not buy it to make money.

Yes, he's doing exceptionally well at that. 

[proton]

3 hours ago, jvs said:

Really,are you that MAGA intelligent?

 

 

You don't know then 😊 must be a Kamala voter, you made a claim, put up or shut up

[candide]

So who will audit Musk's contracts with the government in order to check if it's not overpriced? 😆

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

It's a good point. Thing is Trump ran on changing this trough feeding Democrat's corruption and the voters agreed and voted him in. Now the huge waste of tax payer's money is being uncovered. Do you think this is a bad thing? Try answering with a rational and logical answer not just more anti-Trump the " syndrome that cannot be named" response. BTW best not to talk about donations though. The list of donators aka billionaires/millionaires for Harris was quite extensive.

 

If you follow my posts, you will know that I don't think something is bad just because Trump does it or good because the DEMs want it.

Saving money is obviously good. Exposing corruption is good. When I initially heard Musk will do this, months ago, I though it is a good idea to have an outsider looking into this.

But now it seems to me Musk is a lot more than just looking. It seems he is personally shutting down whole government agencies. And he has full access to sensitive personal data. Is that necessary?

I would have thought he can watch while others work and maybe after a month tell us what he found.

Now it seems what he does is destructive - before first looking at the details.

 

As I wrote already above about donations and politicians and corruption. It seems almost all politicians from all political parties are happy to receive huge donations from companies. As far as I know there are only few politicians, like i.e. Bernie Sanders, who does not accept such donations.

[Negita43]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Why? Political donations aka lobbying is part and parcel of the flawed American political system.

FBI investigators are also part and parcel of the American system (flawed or otherwise) but some of them were on a list and some of them were fired.

Hell has no fury like a trump crossed

[Negita43]

1 hour ago, Terrance8812 said:

Musk bought twitter to preserve free speech.

His version of free speech.

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, Negita43 said:

FBI investigators are also part and parcel of the American system (flawed or otherwise) but some of them were on a list and some of them were fired.

Hell has no fury like a trump crossed

And the majority of Americans according to the way they voted on Trump's policies want this. It's a clean up and a change in ideology. As an example what sane person for instance thinks it's fair for a biological man to compete against women in women's only sports. People get banned, some for life, for taking performance enhancing drugs but being a biological male competing against biological women is ok though. That's simply insane.

[dinsdale]

6 minutes ago, Negita43 said:

His version of free speech.

Remember that we couldn't say covid came from the Wuhan lab on here. This was Biden. Which version of free speech would you prefer?

[proton]

37 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Remember that we couldn't say covid came from the Wuhan lab on here. This was Biden. Which version of free speech would you prefer?

 

We could not say Biden obviously had dementia a couple of years ago as well 😆

[Harrisfan]

48 minutes ago, Negita43 said:

His version of free speech.

What is the liberal version of free speech? 

[Negita43]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

What is the liberal version of free speech? 

Ask him not me I said his version

[Harrisfan]

Just now, Negita43 said:

Ask him not me I said his version

I don't have his phone number

[dinsdale]

19 minutes ago, proton said:

 

We could not say Biden obviously had dementia a couple of years ago as well 😆

Things are changing hopefully. Slowly is the problem. Still can't say on here what is widely said across the net in response to the anti-Trumper's having what I now have to call "the syndrome that cannot be named". 

[Terrance8812]

1 hour ago, Negita43 said:

His version of free speech.

 
Twitter is just a steaming garbage pile of hate, disinformation, and false conspiracies. He can do whatever he wants with it. Tosser is what tosser does. 

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, Terrance8812 said:

 
Twitter is just a steaming garbage pile of hate, disinformation, and false conspiracies. He can do whatever he wants with it. Tosser is what tosser does. 

What's Twitter? Always good to see an example of the ignorant MSM brainwashed left. Of course something like The View isn't disinformation and hate.

[SunnyinBangrak]

10 minutes ago, Terrance8812 said:

 
Twitter is just a steaming garbage pile of hate, disinformation, and false conspiracies. He can do whatever he wants with it. Tosser is what tosser does. 

It was. But Musk bought it, remember? There was much wailing here, fainting couches were required en masse. It would go bust in a few weeks we learned. 

Content unfavorable to democrats is no longer censored. Leftist guff gets quickly corrected or community noted, unlike before. All round a massive improvement. Disney and other woke companies agree and all crawled back with their tails between their legs. Nice.

[Negita43]

29 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

I don't have his phone number

You don't have a Twitter/X account????

[Peabody]

6 hours ago, impulse said:

Then the elected leaders with the legal authority will either dismantle the swamp, or not. 

Nope. They're doing EXACTLY the opposite. Shutting down and dismantling government agencies and departments, and THEN trying to find waste. Like, WTF??

[Peabody]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

And the majority of Americans according to the way they voted on Trump's policies want this. It's a clean up and a change in ideology.

<50% is NOT a majority. Not a mandate. Not a landslide. Not "overwhelming support" for the policies of Mar-a-Lardo.

[SunnyinBangrak]

15 minutes ago, Peabody said:

<50% is NOT a majority. Not a mandate. Not a landslide. Not "overwhelming support" for the policies of Mar-a-Lardo.

It's going to be a looooooooong 4 (or 8) years for you!😅

[candide]

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Why? Political donations aka lobbying is part and parcel of the flawed American political system.

It's a lie. There are no donations! 🤣

[save the frogs]

Is this your 2nd thread bashing Elon?

 

I'm looking forward to self-driving cars and robots. Elon is at the forefront of both. 

 

Unless robots kill us all. Then I take it back and I hate Elon!

 

[dinsdale]

5 hours ago, Peabody said:

<50% is NOT a majority. Not a mandate. Not a landslide. Not "overwhelming support" for the policies of Mar-a-Lardo.

Fantastic and extremely knowledgeable comment. Being that you demonstrate such a commanding grasp of political analysis you should be able to explain this map to us all. 

How about explaining what these numbers mean. 312 and 226.

[dinsdale]

6 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

What is the liberal version of free speech? 

Not being able to post covid-19 was a lab leak.

[hotsun]

Elon may very well be able to save literally the whole west and history will remember him as one of the few who used his money for good. I will remember every critic of him on this forum, and i wont let any of you forget it

[Lacessit]

12 hours ago, proton said:

 

What millions does he get and what for?

Data. Treasury, Social Security, Defense - every government department is a jackpot of data, and Musk is harvesting it.

 

How do you think Zuckerberg and Bezos made their billions? They reap data from every person that signs into their platforms.

 

Forget about getting the keys to Fort Knox, data is much more valuable.

[jimmybcool]

13 hours ago, RSD1 said:

The real travesty of government spending in the U.S. is the staggering waste and corruption within overpriced domestic contracts, particularly in the defense industry. Major U.S. defense contractors routinely charge the government absurdly inflated prices, sometimes 100 times the actual cost. A simple bolt that costs $1 to manufacture for a military aircraft might be billed at $100, or more.

 

This isn’t a secret. The government knows it happens but does nothing to stop it. It’s a well-oiled system where big U.S. corporations siphon taxpayer money while making massive political donations to ensure nothing changes. Just another cog in the military industrial complex.

 

In comparison, the U.S. spending on humanitarian aid abroad that everyone has become so focused on now is just a fraction of what gets washed and wasted through corporate overcharging. Cutting foreign aid on humanitarian programs won’t fix the real financial hemorrhaging within the U.S. government, it’s just an easy scapegoat to distract from the real issue.

 

If Elon, the spastic jumping jellybean, truly wants to tackle government overspending and waste, he should focus on the rampant corruption involving major U.S. defense contractors and other large American corporations, including himself and his own greedy business enterprises. His companies have secured massive, overpriced contracts with the government, making him part of the very system siphoning money from the government, which he claims to oppose and appears to be trying to stop.

 

What he’s doing now is mostly a distraction, a red herring being used to shift attention away from the fact that he, too, is profiting unjustly from taxpayer money. If he were serious about fixing the problem, he’d start by exposing and reforming the same corporate greed that benefits him and his own corrupt business enterprises.

 

Seems he agrees and this article shows he i pointing his sights on the Pentagon next.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/1300-coffee-cups-8000-overpay-soap-dispensers-show-waste-doge-locks-pentagon-elon-musk

[Harrisfan]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Data. Treasury, Social Security, Defense - every government department is a jackpot of data, and Musk is harvesting it.

 

How do you think Zuckerberg and Bezos made their billions? They reap data from every person that signs into their platforms.

 

Forget about getting the keys to Fort Knox, data is much more valuable.

Zuck made money from stupid people signing up to a silly website then sold advertising. He knew people are idiots

 

Bezos made money from selling goods people want. He just put shops online.

 

Nothing to do with collecting data. 

[scottiejohn]

14 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Bezos made money from selling goods people want. He just put shops online.

 

Nothing to do with collecting data. 

Are you saying that he NEVER collected any data re shopping habits etc?

[Walker88]

15 hours ago, RSD1 said:

The real travesty of government spending in the U.S. is the staggering waste and corruption within overpriced domestic contracts, particularly in the defense industry. Major U.S. defense contractors routinely charge the government absurdly inflated prices, sometimes 100 times the actual cost. A simple bolt that costs $1 to manufacture for a military aircraft might be billed at $100, or more.

 

This isn’t a secret. The government knows it happens but does nothing to stop it. It’s a well-oiled system where big U.S. corporations siphon taxpayer money while making massive political donations to ensure nothing changes. Just another cog in the military industrial complex.

 

In comparison, the U.S. spending on humanitarian aid abroad that everyone has become so focused on now is just a fraction of what gets washed and wasted through corporate overcharging. Cutting foreign aid on humanitarian programs won’t fix the real financial hemorrhaging within the U.S. government, it’s just an easy scapegoat to distract from the real issue.

 

If Elon, the spastic jumping jellybean, truly wants to tackle government overspending and waste, he should focus on the rampant corruption involving major U.S. defense contractors and other large American corporations, including himself and his own greedy business enterprises. His companies have secured massive, overpriced contracts with the government, making him part of the very system siphoning money from the government, which he claims to oppose and appears to be trying to stop.

 

What he’s doing now is mostly a distraction, a red herring being used to shift attention away from the fact that he, too, is profiting unjustly from taxpayer money. If he were serious about fixing the problem, he’d start by exposing and reforming the same corporate greed that benefits him and his own corrupt business enterprises.

President Musk would much rather cut the folks who do things like issue or renew passports, check food for e coli or salmonella, guard ports and inspect for drugs or dirty bombs, than stop the military industrial complex from selling $40,000 toilets or doing massive cost overruns in already-obsolete weapon systems.

 

Why try to cut half the defense budget, or $400 billion (aka a Musk Unit), when he can fire a few thousand GS-10s who inspect food?