Donald......and the rest of the world.

[Harrisfan]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

A letter from the former PM of Canada. I consider it an important letter because there are very few world leaders that have the guts to speak out against this madman. 

 

Jean Chretien is 91 today and he gave himself a birthday present. He told Donald J. Trump to piss off in the The Globe and Mail. Here's his column: 

  *   *   *

Today is my 91st birthday.

It’s an opportunity to celebrate with family and friends. To look back on the life I’ve had the privilege to lead. And to reflect on how much this country we all love so much has grown and changed over the course of the nine decades I’ve been on this Earth.

 

This year, I’ve also decided to give myself a birthday present. I’m going to do something in this article that I don’t do very often anymore, and sound off on a big issue affecting the state of the nation and profoundly bothering me and so many other Canadians: The totally unacceptable insults and unprecedented threats to our very sovereignty from U.S. president-elect Donald Trump.

I have two very clear and simple messages.

 

To Donald Trump, from one old guy to another: Give your head a shake! What could make you think that Canadians would ever give up the best country in the world – and make no mistake, that is what we are – to join the United States?

I can tell you Canadians prize our independence. We love our country. We have built something here that is the envy of the world – when it comes to compassion, understanding, tolerance and finding a way for people of different backgrounds and faiths to live together in harmony.

We’ve also built a strong social safety net – especially with public health care – that we are very proud of. It’s not perfect, but it’s based on the principle that the most vulnerable among us should be protected.

This may not be the “American Way” or “the Trump Way.” But it is the reality I have witnessed and lived my whole long life.

 

If you think that threatening and insulting us is going to win us over, you really don’t know a thing about us. You don’t know that when it came to fighting in two world wars for freedom, we signed up – both times – years before your country did. We fought and we sacrificed well beyond our numbers.

 

We also had the guts to say no to your country when it tried to drag us into a completely unjustified and destabilizing war in Iraq.

 

We built a nation across the most rugged, challenging geography imaginable. And we did it against the odds.

We may look easy-going. Mild-mannered. But make no mistake, we have spine and toughness.

 

And that leads me to my second message, to all our leaders, federal and provincial, as well as those who are aspiring to lead our country: Start showing that spine and toughness. That’s what Canadians want to see – what they need to see. It’s called leadership. You need to lead. Canadians are ready to follow. I know the spirit is there. Ever since Mr. Trump’s attacks, every political party is speaking out in favour of Canada. In fact, it is to my great satisfaction that even the Bloc Québécois is defending Canada.

 

But you don’t win a hockey game by only playing defence. We all know that even when we satisfy one demand, Mr. Trump will come back with another, bigger demand. That’s not diplomacy; it’s blackmail.

We need another approach – one that will break this cycle.

 

Mr. Trump has accomplished one thing: He has unified Canadians more than we have been ever before! All leaders across our country have united in resolve to defend Canadian interests.

 

When I came into office as prime minister, Canada faced a national unity crisis. The threat of Quebec separation was very real. We took action to deal with this existential threat in a manner that made Canadians, including Quebeckers, stronger, more united and even prouder of Canadian values.

 

Now there is another existential threat. And we once again need to reduce our vulnerability. That is the challenge for this generation of political leaders.

 

And you won’t accomplish it by using the same old approaches. Just like we did 30 years ago, we need a Plan B for 2025. Yes, telling the Americans we are their best friends and closest trading partner is good. So is lobbying hard in Washington and the state capitals, pointing out that tariffs will hurt the American economy too. So are retaliatory tariffs – when you are attacked, you have to defend yourself.

But we also have to play offence. Let’s tell Mr. Trump that we too have border issues with the United States. Canada has tough gun control legislation, but illegal guns are pouring in from the U.S. We need to tell him that we expect the United States to act to reduce the number of guns crossing into Canada.

 

We also want to protect the Arctic. But the United States refuses to recognize the Northwest Passage, insisting that it is an international waterway, even though it flows through the Canadian Arctic as Canadian waters. We need the United States to recognize the Northwest Passage as being Canadian waters.

 

We also need to reduce Canada’s vulnerability in the first place. We need to be stronger. There are more trade barriers between provinces than between Canada and the United States. Let’s launch a national project to get rid of those barriers! And let’s strengthen the ties that bind this vast nation together through projects such as real national energy grid.

 

We also have to understand that Mr. Trump isn’t just threatening us; he’s also targeting a growing list of other countries, as well as the European Union itself, and he is just getting started. Canada should quickly convene a meeting of the leaders of Denmark, Panama, Mexico, as well as with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, to formulate a plan for fighting back these threats.

 

Every time that Mr. Trump opens his mouth, he creates new allies for all of us. So let’s get organized! To fight back against a big, powerful bully, you need strength in numbers.

The whole point is not to wait in dread for Donald Trump’s next blow. It’s to build a country and an international community that can withstand those blows.

 

Canadians know me. They know I am an optimist. That I am practical. And that I always speak my mind. I made my share of mistakes over a long career, but I never for a moment doubted the decency of my fellow Canadians – or of my political opponents.

The current and future generations of political leaders should remember they are not each other’s enemies – they are opponents. Nobody ever loved the cut-and-thrust of politics more than me, but I always understood that each of us was trying to make a positive contribution to make our community or country a better place.

 

That spirit is more important now than ever, as we address this new challenge. Our leaders should keep that in mind.

I am 91 today and blessed with good health. I am ready at the ramparts to help defend the independence of our country as I have done all my life.

Vive le Canada! 

(Article shared by Steve Paikin)

Sad old angry liberal. 

[UWEB]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

And you can prove that? 

This is done by the German Federal Bureau of Constitution protection and confirmed by the German Constitutional Court.  Three NSAFD State Associations  are already confirmed right wing extremists,one of the Party Leaders you can call officially a Nazi what is usually prohibited by Law.

[spidermike007]

Why China will not only win this trade war, they will kick the US in the butt. Just another example of simpletons under estimating them, and diminishing not only the US economy, but it's remaining influence. And in the process dramatically overestimating the importance and the influence of the US on the rest of the world. There is no question America is not the country that it once was, and that the entire planet is infinitely less dependent on them than they used to be.

 

Which is a good thing for the planet, but a terrible thing for our creepy leader. 

 

https://youtu.be/HO7mt7d9Zp8?si=-LgZ__a835aIKdel

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, UWEB said:

This is done by the German Federal Bureau of Constitution protection and confirmed by the German Constitutional Court.  Three NSAFD State Associations  are already confirmed right wing extremists,one of the Party Leaders you can call officially a Nazi what is usually prohibited by Law.

 

I meant proof of this "plan" to destroy the new Constitution. 

[UWEB]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

And who exactly are the criminal fascists of the NSAFD, or are you simply using that slur as an umbrella term for people you either dislike or whose views you disagree with ?

 

 

I can't list all cases here as just too long, just google criminal AFD Members by yourself. Best would be to start with M. Krah( AFD Member of European Parliament) and some of his Office Staff found spying for Russia and China. Hope you have some weeks time to read all the Reports of this criminals.

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Why China will not only win this trade war, they will kick the US in the butt. Just another example of simpletons under estimating them, and diminishing not only the US economy, but it's remaining influence. And in the process dramatically overestimating the importance and the influence of the US on the rest of the world. There is no question America is not the country that it once was, and that the entire planet is infinitely less dependent on them than they used to be.

 

Which is a good thing for the planet, but a terrible thing for our creepy leader. 

 

https://youtu.be/HO7mt7d9Zp8?si=-LgZ__a835aIKdel

Says a liberal.

[UWEB]

7 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

I meant proof of this "plan" to destroy the new Constitution. 

This proof is included in the Investigation of the Bureau of Constitution protection and is one of the reasons they are confirmed right wing extremists.

[theshu25]

15 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Many European countries are a mess because they are run by liberals. America saved Europe in ww2 from Hitler. The cowardly French lost in a matter of weeks. The two dumbest people I've ever met both French. Europe should be happy Trump won so the Ukraine war will end sooner. Biden took no steps to end the war because he is a complete idiot.

 

Understand?

Trump is doing a great job in the war in ukraine isn't he. Trump is  no more then a village idiot. He has no idea what he is doing and is way way out of his depth,Leave the war to the grown ups,not a n  idiot like trump.

[Harrisfan]

7 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

Trump is doing a great job in the war in ukraine isn't he. Trump is  no more then a village idiot. He has no idea what he is doing and is way way out of his depth,Leave the war to the grown ups,not a n  idiot like trump.

Been in office 3 weeks. Take a tablet and have a lie down.

[nauseus]

40 minutes ago, UWEB said:

This proof is included in the Investigation of the Bureau of Constitution protection and is one of the reasons they are confirmed right wing extremists.

 

That is not an answer. But maybe you realize that? Or maybe not?

[UWEB]

24 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

That is not an answer. But maybe you realize that? Or maybe not?

That is an answer you most likely not understand.

[nauseus]

10 minutes ago, UWEB said:

That is an answer you most likely not understand.

 

That's right. I not understand. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

1 hour ago, UWEB said:

This proof is included in the Investigation of the Bureau of Constitution protection and is one of the reasons they are confirmed right wing extremists.

 

Labelling the AfD right wing extremists is all well and good, but many Germans now see them as a better choice than the left wing extremists that have been doing their best for years, to bring Germany to its knees.

 

Someone had to try and repair the damage caused by the Russian stooge, Malodorous Mutti; and although it is probably too late, because the damage, as in the UK, looks to be irreparable, I notice other parties in Germany are now, not just mimicking their policies on immigration, but asking for their help. Maybe it is not too late for Germany.

 

 

[illisdean]

The way it is...

 

 

[UWEB]

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Labelling the AfD right wing extremists is all well and good, but many Germans now see them as a better choice than the left wing extremists that have been doing their best for years, to bring Germany to its knees.

 

Someone had to try and repair the damage caused by the Russian stooge, Malodorous Mutti; and although it is probably too late, because the damage, as in the UK, looks to be irreparable, I notice other parties in Germany are now, not just mimicking their policies on immigration, but asking for their help. Maybe it is not too late for Germany.

 

 

There are no left wing Extremist in Germany, non of the other parties are under Investigation of the Bureau of Constitution protection. Just the NSAFD Fascists.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

27 minutes ago, UWEB said:

There are no left wing Extremist in Germany, non of the other parties are under Investigation of the Bureau of Constitution protection. Just the NSAFD Fascists.

 

Sorry, I forgot to read the rules first, which I have now done:

 

Rule 1: Those on the left are allowed to call those on the right, hard right, far right, extreme right, far hard right, extreme far right, fanatical far right, and right wing extremists.

 

Rule 2. Those on the right are only allowed to call those on the left, the liberal left or left of centre.

 

Please accept my profound apologies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

P.S. Obviously Mutti Merkel didn't get the memo 

 

 

 

 

[scottiejohn]

3 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Sorry, I forgot to read the rules first, which I have now done:

 

Rule 1: Those on the left are allowed to call those on the right, hard right, far right, extreme right, far hard right, extreme far right, fanatical far right, and right wing extremists.

 

Rule 2. Those on the right are only allowed to call those on the left, the liberal left or left of centre.

 

Please accept my profound apologies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

 

 

Sorry but I think you have that back to front!

😆

[BritManToo]

21 hours ago, swissie said:

 

Me, and the overwhelming majority of Europeans would just like to know why the American electorate came to the conclusion, that the time is ripe for a person like Donald. Or, in other words: What is so terribly wrong in the US that made them vote for Donald?

I'm guessing the US citizens got tired of the government putting foreigners first and citizens second. Just like most white folk in the western world.

 

Uneducated barbarians and sexual deviants out, heterosexual citizens first.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

11 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Sorry but I think you have that back to front!

😆

 

I suggest you google ‘satire’ and try again.

 

 

[scottiejohn]

2 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

I suggest you google ‘satire’ and try again.

 

 

You obviously had not noticed that I was joining in the satire!

I suggest you look at my post again and look at the laughing emoji!

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

You obviously had not noticed that I was joining in the satire!

I suggest you look at my post again and look at the laughing emoji!

 

 

Apologies, I hadn't noticed the emoji 😬

 

 

[whaleboneman]

21 hours ago, TheAppletons said:

I will be forthright in answering your question - people in the USA don't care what people in Europe think.

 

Sucks but it's true.

That wasn't his question.

[alex8912]

20 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Most Brits, and it is not BS.

I think we need to exclude the small  group of raving lunatic liberal British that post everyday on this forum. With them out of the equation MOST Brits is certainly 100% true. 

[bannork]

5 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Been in office 3 weeks. Take a tablet and have a lie down.

Good advice. Lie down Donald and never wake up.

[bannork]

3 minutes ago, alex8912 said:

I think we need to exclude the small  group of raving lunatic liberal British that post everyday on this forum. With them out of the equation MOST Brits is certainly 100% true. 

Here's a loony, and a baby one at that.

Donald Trump has banned reporters who do not use the term 'Gulf of America' from entering the White House.

The White House blocked an Associated Press reporter from an event in the Oval Office on Tuesday after demanding the news agency alter its style on the Gulf of Mexico, which President Trump has bizarrely renamed the Gulf of America. The reporter tried to enter the White House event as usual Tuesday afternoon and was turned away. A second reporter from the agency was also barred from an event in the White House Diplomatic Room later that evening.

Julie Pace, senior vice president and executive editor at the Associated Press, described the move as "alarming", adding in a statement: "Limiting our access to the Oval Office based on the content of AP's speech not only severely impedes the public's access to independent news, it plainly violates the First Amendment."

  

[alex8912]

9 minutes ago, bannork said:

Here's a loony, and a baby one at that.

Donald Trump has banned reporters who do not use the term 'Gulf of America' from entering the White House.

The White House blocked an Associated Press reporter from an event in the Oval Office on Tuesday after demanding the news agency alter its style on the Gulf of Mexico, which President Trump has bizarrely renamed the Gulf of America. The reporter tried to enter the White House event as usual Tuesday afternoon and was turned away. A second reporter from the agency was also barred from an event in the White House Diplomatic Room later that evening.

Julie Pace, senior vice president and executive editor at the Associated Press, described the move as "alarming", adding in a statement: "Limiting our access to the Oval Office based on the content of AP's speech not only severely impedes the public's access to independent news, it plainly violates the First Amendment."

  

My point proven. Thank you. PS check your google map. 

[candide]

1 hour ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Sorry, I forgot to read the rules first, which I have now done:

 

Rule 1: Those on the left are allowed to call those on the right, hard right, far right, extreme right, far hard right, extreme far right, fanatical far right, and right wing extremists.

 

Rule 2. Those on the right are only allowed to call those on the left, the liberal left or left of centre.

 

Please accept my profound apologies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

P.S. Obviously Mutti Merkel didn't get the memo 

 

 

 

 

The AfD is not at all like the 'softened' far-right such as Meloni or Le Pen. They are true fascist.

 

Oh and with antisemitic tendencies.

That's what a Jewish organization thinks about them.

https://www.ajc.org/news/podcast/the-rise-of-germanys-far-right-party-and-what-it-means-for-german-jews

[scottiejohn]

44 minutes ago, alex8912 said:

My point proven. Thank you. PS check your google map. 

Both names are shown when searching from outside the USA on Google maps!

Nautical and Aero maps will not, if ever, be changed until full international agreements have been reached and new charts published!

[Hummin]

If it was just Donald, 

 

Suggest new name on Greenland

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/11/buddy-carter-greenland/78422602007/

[Mike_Hunt]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Why China will not only win this trade war, they will kick the US in the butt. Just another example of simpletons under estimating them, and diminishing not only the US economy, but it's remaining influence. And in the process dramatically overestimating the importance and the influence of the US on the rest of the world. There is no question America is not the country that it once was, and that the entire planet is infinitely less dependent on them than they used to be.

 

Which is a good thing for the planet, but a terrible thing for our creepy leader. 

 

https://youtu.be/HO7mt7d9Zp8?si=-LgZ__a835aIKdel

Sounds like you are rooting for the CCP.