When will Europe wake up?

[hotsun]

Close your borders and take care of your own people, is what their leaders should be doing. Instead they are distracting their people with big bad putin and big bad trump. Europeans would rather take a vacation in Iran than Israel? From an outsiders perspective, you guys should know better, and yet still after covid you put your trust in liberal media. Its time to send mohammed back home.

[OneMoreFarang]

Luckily most Europeans don't have such a limited black and white view like you.

Putin is bad. Trump is bad. There is no question about that. Now it's time for the Europeans to find their own way. That will obviously be difficult. Appeasing Putin and/or Trump is certainly not a good idea.

[hotsun]

22 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Luckily most Europeans don't have such a limited black and white view like you.

Putin is bad. Trump is bad. There is no question about that. Now it's time for the Europeans to find their own way. That will obviously be difficult. Appeasing Putin and/or Trump is certainly not a good idea.

Muslims dont tolerate anyone non muslim. The truth is too hard for europeans to hear. The experiment is a failure, and will soon be a massive failure if they dont follow the US on this. The europeans who are victim to muslim terrorism and survive are all pro israel

[josephbloggs]

5 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Muslims dont tolerate anyone non muslim. The truth is too hard for europeans to hear. The experiment is a failure, and will soon be a massive failure if they dont follow the US on this. The europeans who are victim to muslim terrorism and survive are all pro israel

Europe doesn't want your blinkered myopic view. You do you, build your walls, send whoever home you like, let Europe do what Europe wants to do. The absolute last thing Europe wants to do is follow America in to anything, especially under the current incumbent.

 

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Muslims dont tolerate anyone non muslim

And this generalisation is absolute rubbish.

[Hanaguma]

I agree, let Europe do what it wants to do. ESPECIALLY let Europe defend itself. Too many free riders and Cheap Charlies who are counting on Uncle Sugar to save their bacon. All the while sneering when they are hit with the cold hard truth. I remember years ago when Trump scolded them for being too reliant on Russian fossil fuels and they nearly laughed in his face.

 

Who's laughing now, soyboys?

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, hotsun said:

Muslims dont tolerate anyone non muslim. The truth is too hard for europeans to hear. The experiment is a failure, and will soon be a massive failure if they dont follow the US on this. The europeans who are victim to muslim terrorism and survive are all pro israel

 

How many Muslims do you know? It can't be many. Because if you would know some of them then you would know that most of them are peaceful people.

Like many Christians are peaceful people, but some of them are radical nutters.

Again, you seem to see only black and white. The good guys and the bad guys. Life is not that easy.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

I agree, let Europe do what it wants to do. ESPECIALLY let Europe defend itself. Too many free riders and Cheap Charlies who are counting on Uncle Sugar to save their bacon. All the while sneering when they are hit with the cold hard truth. I remember years ago when Trump scolded them for being too reliant on Russian fossil fuels and they nearly laughed in his face.

 

Who's laughing now, soyboys?

Just in case someone asks you, German and other European countries imported gas from Russia to strengthen the connection with business. In principle that was a good idea, countries which work together, and especially countries which work a lot together, normally don't fight each other.

Obviously, things didn't work out. But that doesn't mean the original idea was bad.

 

Over time relationships change, that's normal. "The west" is since a long time not "the west" anymore. There are huge differences between Europe and the USA. Until now people saw the differences and still decided to work peacefully together. And now? Now Trump takes a sledgehammer to those relations. Is that a good idea? Certainly no! 

Trump could have explained to Europe and especially Ukraine that they don't want to continue like until now. Ok, accepted. Then let's work on a new relationship. And not destroy the existing one with a sledgehammer and look what happens. 

[Hanaguma]

12 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

How many Muslims do you know? It can't be many. Because if you would know some of them then you would know that most of them are peaceful people.

Like many Christians are peaceful people, but some of them are radical nutters.

Again, you seem to see only black and white. The good guys and the bad guys. Life is not that easy.

 

Peaceful people? Hmmm.  You may want to look at the Arab League, and see what happened to religious minorities in those countries. 

[OneMoreFarang]

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Peaceful people? Hmmm.  You may want to look at the Arab League, and see what happened to religious minorities in those countries. 

I know Muslims from business partners. I see Muslim girls working in 7-11 and at the counter in my building. And there are several Muslim families in my building. The all seem the be alright, no problems.

 

Obviously, there are some radicals. But there are also radicals in other religions. Pretending they are all radicals and all the same is just incorrect. 

 

Look how many Americans started mass killings. Does that mean all Americans are like that? No. 

[John Drake]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

I remember years ago when Trump scolded them for being too reliant on Russian fossil fuels and they nearly laughed in his face.

 

The same guy was crying, literally, about Vance yesterday. See the two videos on this link.  

 

[bkknirvana]

Europe is now under communism. That's been the long term plan of the European commission.

[josephbloggs]

20 minutes ago, bkknirvana said:

Europe is now under communism. That's been the long term plan of the European commission.

Sigh. Ok, please share your evidence. Anything? Are you paranoid? A prepper maybe? How is Europe "under Communism"?? And how is that their long term goal? Evidence please.

Have you ever been to Europe?

Seriously, amazing that someone can say that and believe it, must be serious MAGA issues....

Edit: oh, just seen some of your other conspiracy posts. All is clear now, thanks.

 

 

[bkknirvana]

6 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Sigh. Ok, please share your evidence. Anything? Are you paranoid? A prepper maybe? How is Europe "under Communism"??

Seriously, amazing that someone can say that and believe it, must be serious MAGA issues....

Edit: oh, just seen some of your other conspiracy posts. All is clear now, thanks.

 

 

 

EU is no different to USSR, luckily a lot of the ex soviet states are waking up to this, not least Hungary with Orban. Eastern Europeans know communism.

 

The main evidence is the attack on free speech.

[josephbloggs]

Just now, bkknirvana said:

 

EU is no different to Russia, luckily a lot of the ex soviet states are waking up to this, not least Hungary with Orban. Eastern Europeans know communism.

Okey Dokey. So just your paranoid MAGA conspiracy theory opinion. Absolutely no facts to back it up. Worthless then.

[Hummin]

4 hours ago, hotsun said:

Close your borders and take care of your own people, is what their leaders should be doing. Instead they are distracting their people with big bad putin and big bad trump. Europeans would rather take a vacation in Iran than Israel? From an outsiders perspective, you guys should know better, and yet still after covid you put your trust in liberal media. Its time to send mohammed back home.

You do not understand, many of the refugees coming to our borders, is a direct results of the complicated world politics driven by our alliance against our enemies.

 

2. We need immigrants who is willing to do the dirty jobs we do kot want to do! Clean toilets, make cheap exotic food, etc etc, 

 

You are just full of hate and propaganda, 

 

Still I hope we can limit immigrants who is coming, and rather give them permit to stay as long they learning language, and willing to work. Be more restricted. It ain't all black and white

[Hummin]

23 minutes ago, bkknirvana said:

Europe is now under communism. That's been the long term plan of the European commission.

Your own Trump praising Scandinavia 😁

[bkknirvana]

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

Okey Dokey. So just your paranoid MAGA conspiracy theory opinion. Absolutely no facts to back it up. Worthless then.

 

Still can't get over Trump's victory? Woke idiot.

[bkknirvana]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You do not understand, many of the refugees coming to our borders, is a direct results of the complicated world politics driven by our alliance against our enemies.

 

2. We need immigrants who is willing to do the dirty jobs we do kot want to do! Clean toilets, make cheap exotic food, etc etc, 

 

You are just full of hate and propaganda, 

 

Still I hope we can limit immigrants who is coming, and rather give them permit to stay as long they learning language, and willing to work. Be more restricted. It ain't all black and white

 

Japan has right idea. Ban immigrants, particularly the leeches, which is usually most economic migrants.

[jas007]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

I agree, let Europe do what it wants to do. ESPECIALLY let Europe defend itself. Too many free riders and Cheap Charlies who are counting on Uncle Sugar to save their bacon. All the while sneering when they are hit with the cold hard truth. I remember years ago when Trump scolded them for being too reliant on Russian fossil fuels and they nearly laughed in his face.

 

Who's laughing now, soyboys?

Of course Europe should defend Europe.  What kind of nuts would they be, otherwise?  And yet, from what I'm seeing in the news lately, it appears as though both the UK and the EU want to put boots on the ground in Ukraine.  Can you imagine a bigger screw up than that?  And what do they think, that Section 5 of NATO is necessarily obligatory?  There's only one word that comes to mind: delusional.  

[Hanaguma]

54 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I know Muslims from business partners. I see Muslim girls working in 7-11 and at the counter in my building. And there are several Muslim families in my building. The all seem the be alright, no problems.

 

Obviously, there are some radicals. But there are also radicals in other religions. Pretending they are all radicals and all the same is just incorrect. 

 

Look how many Americans started mass killings. Does that mean all Americans are like that? No. 

And individually, you are absolutely correct. Yet you avoided my point that, on a societal level, that is not true. "Some radicals" did not expel the Jews from every country in North Africa and the Middle East. 

[save the frogs]

27 minutes ago, Hummin said:

2. We need immigrants who is willing to do the dirty jobs we do kot want to do! Clean toilets, make cheap exotic food, etc etc, 

Typical white western supremacist attitude. 

 

[Hummin]

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Typical white western supremacist attitude. 

 

You are funny, and you know it

 

As an American, think twice, why else is Español the second language spoken in Usa?

[spidermike007]

My guess is that the majority of people who disapprove of Europe, and are lecturing Europeans tend to be American, just like the very dull man Vance. 

 

Does America really have the moral authority to lecture Europe on democracy? Is America even a democracy anymore? If it is democracy is barely hanging on. And it may not be a democracy at all after a few more years of the goon. 

[save the frogs]

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You are funny, and you know it

 

As an American, think twice, why else is Español the second language spoken in Usa?

JD Vance's wife is Indian.

And that's one more brownie point for the MAGA team. Integration and inclusion.

Pretty lady, Usha.

[Hummin]

9 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

JD Vance's wife is Indian.

And that's one more brownie point for the MAGA team. Integration and inclusion.

Pretty lady, Usha.

Seriously, everyone here, 99% have asian wife, gf, lover, hooker, what does it prove? Nothing

[NoDisplayName]

5 hours ago, hotsun said:

Its time to send mohammed back home.

 

Or....................maybe it's time to stop bombing Mohammad's home, destroying Mohammed's infrastructure, and regime-changing Mohammed's government, and then maybe Mohammed can stay home.

[save the frogs]

34 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

just like the very dull man Vance. 

yeah, because biden isn't dull. 

[save the frogs]

3 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

and then maybe Mohammed can stay home.

from someone whoe expatriated to another country.

anyone should be allowed to live anywhere, as long as they can find work / support themselves. 

the only problem is when it becomes a large number of people, the local culture gets diluted too much.

 

 

[Stocky]

The moronic drivel in this thread, I'm betting most MAGAts couldn't even find Europe on a map! 

[NoDisplayName]

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

from someone whoe expatriated to another country.

anyone should be allowed to live anywhere, as long as they can find work / support themselves. 

the only problem is when it becomes a large number of people, the local culture gets diluted too much.

 

 

 

From someone who left his homeland by choice, not because NATO bombed my regime into submission and installed a collection of mostly peaceful moderate headchoppers in its place.