Thai PM Assures Locals: No Israeli Takeover in Pai District - video

[black tabby12345]

8 minutes ago, thesetat said:

 This way they get your attention with just a few words in the heading. Does not mean they are always factual either...

I have learned it in early 1990s.

That practice is based on common readers' tendency; looking at only first 3 lines of the newspaper.

 

 

8 minutes ago, thesetat said:

Be grateful we are not being charged money to read the news online... haha... 

 

Yeah.

Load of Rubbish, Printed Mass Garbage, lamestream media, certainly not worth paying  A Cent.

[black tabby12345]

What happens mass of Pai Resident upset with them, started to display Swastika, or Hitler's images all over the town?

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

What happens mass of Pai Resident upset with them, started to display Swastika, or Hitler's images all over the town?

 

Have you thought about doing that ?

Will you be talking the posters off your bedroom wall and sticking them all over Pai ?

[ignore it]

Hamas leadership (what's left of it) considered offering it's help, but currently finds itself occupied.

[black tabby12345]

6 hours ago, thesetat said:

Yeah... Just like the russia mafia in pattaya and now in phuket... and the yakuza in pattaya.. and the chinese gangs.. all fake news as you said.... 

 

I have often heard of Rus mafia in Phuket.

But have never heard of Yakuza things in Pattaya.

In a country where ordinary people can arm themselves to the teeth lawfully, Yakuza cannot be any real threat unlike their home country where the law-abiding are totally disarmed and powerless.

[scorecard]

4 hours ago, brommers said:

Israelis might be a focal point right now because there are up to 3000 of them in the Pai area and they behave badly, but the real issue is over tourism. Thailand is rapidly approaching the level when visitors impinge on normal daily life. Phuket is already the most over touristed place on the planet and others like Pai are following. Many years ago a local in Pai said to me " we used to farm garlic, now we farm tourists" and this attitude has led to the current situation. Israelis are renowned for ignorant behaviour but are only the tip of the iceberg. A wholesale review of tourism policy is urgently needed.

 

Any specific reason why there 3,000 jews there right now?

[ChipButty]

6 hours ago, hotsun said:

No but there’s definitely a russian takeover of Phuket 

I will confirm that they have bought half the beach front land in Rawai, and in Sai yuan road I don't know how many Rai they have bought, they have not started clearing the land just yet but it's coming, 

[Patong2021]

17 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

It was always fake news anyway

 

I believe  many of the stories have been planted by foreign actors. There is an active disinformation campaign underway in multiple countries. 

[Nick Carter icp]

8 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Any specific reason why there 3,000 jews there right now?

 

   Why are there 180 000 Christians  in Pattaya now ?

[connda]

17 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Good. Thailand doing their job.

Agreed, but in typical manner, the Thai government attempts to maintain law and order by prosecuting Israelis who are caught breaking civil and Thai Immigration/Thai Labor laws will be labelled as "antisemitic."

Target Russians who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Chinese who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Brits who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Yanks who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Africans who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"
Target Indians who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Israelis who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws: "Antisemitism!"

[Patong2021]

5 hours ago, AloisAmrein said:

No surprise with the problems with Israeli tourists. They do this in many countries, I saw it personally in Argentina already 20 years ago. Israeli think they are superior to local people, a pur racist thinking and behavior.

 Sure you did. Why not just say you dislike them without  making up an obnoxious story.

Israelis have been avoiding Argentina since 1994 when the Iranians  and Hezbollah bombed the historic jewish cultural center murdering 85 and maiming 300. Argentina had hostile relations with Israel under multiple Argentine governments.  The former corrupt President  Krichener was held responsible in 1998 for her role in covering up the Argentine complicity by covering up the Iranian responsibility in the  bombing.

Try harder.

What's next, the liberation of the Falklands from the Argentine  military junta was an Israeli plot?

 

[Patong2021]

5 hours ago, brommers said:

Israelis might be a focal point right now because there are up to 3000 of them in the Pai area and they behave badly, but the real issue is over tourism. Thailand is rapidly approaching the level when visitors impinge on normal daily life. Phuket is already the most over touristed place on the planet and others like Pai are following. Many years ago a local in Pai said to me " we used to farm garlic, now we farm tourists" and this attitude has led to the current situation. Israelis are renowned for ignorant behaviour but are only the tip of the iceberg. A wholesale review of tourism policy is urgently needed.

 

How do you know there are 3,000? The government states that there are only about 83-84 Israeli tourists staying in Pai daily. Where did the 3,000 come from? 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, connda said:

Agreed, but in typical manner, the Thai government attempts to maintain law and order as well as to prosecute Israelis breaking civil and Thai Immigration/Thai Labor laws will be labelled "antisemitic."

Target Russians who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Chinese who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Brits who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Yanks who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Africans who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Israelis who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws: "Antisemitism!"

 

   Who will be labelling the Thai Government as being "Anti semitic" for prosecuting Israelis who break the law ?

   Its you who is bringing the word to the table 

[mran66]

"Israelis" most of whom speak Russian...and of conscription age males... 

 

Would be good for media to report true nature of these "Israelis"

[thesetat]

15 minutes ago, connda said:

arget Yanks who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

ohh the nerve.. How dare you!!! 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

13 minutes ago, connda said:

Agreed, but in typical manner, the Thai government attempts to maintain law and order by prosecuting Israelis who are caught breaking civil and Thai Immigration/Thai Labor laws will be labelled as "antisemitic."

Target Russians who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Chinese who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Brits who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Yanks who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Africans who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"
Target Indians who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Israelis who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws: "Antisemitism!"

 

    Actually, if any of the above behaved in the same way as the Israelis did then it probably wouldn't even be reported .

   I doubt we would even get to hear about it .

When Israelis do it , then its headline news , countless threads and people start getting their Swastikas out and start  reading Mein Kampf for advice on the final solution to the Jewfish problem (in Pai).

[Bkk Brian]

21 minutes ago, connda said:

Agreed, but in typical manner, the Thai government attempts to maintain law and order by prosecuting Israelis who are caught breaking civil and Thai Immigration/Thai Labor laws will be labelled as "antisemitic."

Target Russians who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Chinese who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Brits who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Yanks who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Africans who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"
Target Indians who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Israelis who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws: "Antisemitism!"

Nah, fixed it for you.

 

Target Israelis  Jews who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws:  "Antisemitism!"

[black tabby12345]

I have checked out Pai's population: Only 38000, or so.

There are 3000 Israelis.

Locals' fear of "Takeover" by them, doesn't look completely groundless...

 

population of pai thailand - Google Search

 

population of israelis in pai thailand - Google Search

 

[Briggsy]

Classic "reductio ad absurdum".

 

Officials take a ridiculous claim which is easily refuted and use it to create both a false premise and a distraction that there is no problem.

 

As others have stated here, the real problem is overtourism and badly-behaving tourists and the dismal lack of processes and competent people to deal with that overtourism and badly-behaving tourists, first and foremost the police but also zoning and planning by the local amphoe.

 

This then emboldens developers, business people and badly-behaved tourists to take their illegal development, illegal behaviour up a notch over and over until the local people who are not directly plugged in to the tourist dollar are up in arms.

[richard_smith237]

This is just typical media pile on... then the fools who buy into this rubbish add to their confirmation bias... 

 

I too saw signs in Samui decades ago... "No Israeli tourists" which I considered to be rather antisemitic, but understood that the owners of the property to be Muslim rather than this being related to anything about the behavior of Israeli tourists. 

 

I've been here a long time and witnessed negative behavior from all tourists - whenever tourists travel anywhere en masse there will be a number of them who behave poorly and draw a 'reputation' which some get hold of and start making generalisations - they are unable to get over these generalisations because they lack the intelligence to do so. 

 

Its the same with the social medial pile on against Chinese tourists, its recently been the same with French Arabs.... Brit's have their time in the spotlight as have the Swiss and Aussies... 

 

This is simply the 'media' finding the next 'buzz topic' and they fools on forums such as this add to the bias with flawed concepts and bigotry.

 

 

Like people anywhere, expecially the young, some will make grade A1 t!ts of themselves and draw attention....  some of my 'younger' family were recently in Pai and had a great time... 

 

I forgot what it was called, but advertised as 'booze-tubing' or something like that where everyone gets pished up, then floats down the river on inflatable tubes.... It sounds like great laugh for those young and free and want to enjoy themselves....

 

.... And this is exactly who Thailand is marketing itself towards...   they have no right to complain when there success starts to breed an element of contempt.... 

 

Daft politicians feeding the media, feeding the public, feeding the media frenzy, feeding the politicians.... a cycle of stupidity and a much ado about nothing - Just a lot of tourists doing what tourists do, spending money - exactly what Thailand wanted....     the faux 'puritanical nature' strikes again....  Thailand is still cheap back-packers destination, exactly what it wants, regardless of all the 'high end tourism' announcements. 

 

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

16 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

I have checked out Pai's population: Only 38000, or so.

There are 3000 Israelis.

Locals' fear of "Takeover" by them, doesn't look completely groundless...

 

population of pai thailand - Google Search

 

population of israelis in pai thailand - Google Search

 

@black tabby12345 Be smarter.... !!!   

 

  

Actual figures show these numbers reflect annual visits, with only about 83-84 Israeli tourists staying in Pai daily.

 

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Reports of 30,000 Israelis overwhelming the local populace are grossly misleading. Actual figures show these numbers reflect annual visits, with only about 83-84 Israeli tourists staying in Pai daily.

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, hotsun said:

No but there’s definitely a russian takeover of Phuket 

Wait until they change the name t Little Moscow

[black tabby12345]

1 minute ago, hotchilli said:

Wait until they change the name t Little Moscow

 

Need to Import Ukrainian troops to battle them...

[spidermike007]

Nothing this man says should ever be acknowledged, though he does seem to continue to hold positions of power, he is one of the least knowledgeable and least informed people in Thailand. He definitely reminds me of another leader elsewhere, just kind of a hapless fool. 

[beautifulthailand99]

2 hours ago, connda said:

Agreed, but in typical manner, the Thai government attempts to maintain law and order by prosecuting Israelis who are caught breaking civil and Thai Immigration/Thai Labor laws will be labelled as "antisemitic."

Target Russians who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Chinese who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Brits who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Yanks who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Africans who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"
Target Indians who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws - "Ok!"

Target Israelis who break Thai civil and Immigration/Thai Labor laws: "Antisemitism!"

Aye - they are racists equally to all. My wife who rarely comments on matters other than Lisa mentioned this so it is a big issue in Thai circles. Trashing an ER was a big red line they are not in Gaza now.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Aye - they are racists equally to all. My wife who rarely comments on matters other than Lisa mentioned this so it is a big issue in Thai circles. Trashing an ER was a big red line they are not in Gaza now.

Can you link to this thrashing of an ER? 

[beautifulthailand99]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Can you link to this thrashing of an ER? 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/4-israeli-tourists-arrested-in-thailand-for-threatening-staff-at-local-hospital/ 

 

According to the National Thailand, the tourists were responsible for several “disruptive incidents” at Pai Hospital, including the verbal abuse of medical staff, property damage and smoking in restricted areas, as well as theft and reckless driving.According to the National Thailand, the tourists were responsible for several “disruptive incidents” at Pai Hospital, including the verbal abuse of medical staff, property damage and smoking in restricted areas, as well as theft and reckless driving.

Ok threatening behaviour and property damage amongst other heinous crimes -  abhorrent behaviour in any universe and 4 of them not one that would be say totally aled up Brit kicking off. Why would any sane people do that to Thais of all people ? They got off very lightly I would have locked them up and thrown away the key.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/4-israeli-tourists-arrested-in-thailand-for-threatening-staff-at-local-hospital/ 

 

According to the National Thailand, the tourists were responsible for several “disruptive incidents” at Pai Hospital, including the verbal abuse of medical staff, property damage and smoking in restricted areas, as well as theft and reckless driving.According to the National Thailand, the tourists were responsible for several “disruptive incidents” at Pai Hospital, including the verbal abuse of medical staff, property damage and smoking in restricted areas, as well as theft and reckless driving.

Ok threatening behaviour and property damage amongst other heinous crimes -  abhorrent behaviour in any universe and 4 of them not one that would be say totally aled up Brit kicking off. Why would any sane people do that to Thais of all people ? They got off very lightly I would have locked them up and thrown away the key.

"The tourists were then arrested by the Pai Police Department and charged with causing a public nuisance, intimidation, harassment and disgraceful conduct. They were then handed over to the Thai Immigration Bureau which revoked their visas and began the process of deporting them back to Israel.

The four were also issued fines of 3,000 Thai Baht, or roughly NIS 300 ($84)."

 

Your claim of thrashing an ER is false

[beautifulthailand99]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

"The tourists were then arrested by the Pai Police Department and charged with causing a public nuisance, intimidation, harassment and disgraceful conduct. They were then handed over to the Thai Immigration Bureau which revoked their visas and began the process of deporting them back to Israel.

The four were also issued fines of 3,000 Thai Baht, or roughly NIS 300 ($84)."

 

Your claim of thrashing an ER is false

 

For the record are you defending this behaviour ?

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

For the record are you defending this behaviour ?

For the record I was calling out your false claims.