Trump says Zelensky ‘should have never started’ war with Russia

[frank83628]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

See bus.

See Trump.

See Trump throw Ukraine under.

Utterly disgusting!

What a vile LIAR.

For example he claimed that Zelinsky has a 4 percent approval rating.

That actual number is 52 percent.

Why it matters?

Putin (who is a full on dicatator with fake elections) is teaming up with America's new God King authoritarian oligarchy to force Ukraine to have an election as a condition to cease fire.

What's wrong witht that? Duh. 

Russia will exploit the situation to try to rig the elections towards a Putin puppet as it has done successfully multiple times elsewhere.

Putin doesn't need to actually occupy all of Ukraine.

Having a Putin puppet regime there making Ukraine a slave state of Moscow also serves it purposes.

How about forcing Russia to have an ACTUAL election?

 

Where is this 52% approval rating, who was asked, zelenskys official term as president was over last year, he is now not even the elected leader

[SiSePuede419]

Just now, frank83628 said:

According to who?

Another FOP (Friend of Putin).

 

Your Moose 🫎 & Squirrel 🐿️ gaslighting doesn't work on intelligent people, Boris.

 

[frank83628]

5 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Another FOP (Friend of Putin).

 

Your Moose 🫎 & Squirrel 🐿️ gaslighting doesn't work on intelligent people, Boris.

 

Haha, yeah right, just as I expeted, nobody has confirmed Navalny was murdered.. but you know the truth right.... are you secret agent or something?

 

[Hamus Yaigh]

33 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

2 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Perhaps you missed the news whilst in the back outhouse knocking one out?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kyiv_(2022)

Hahahah, go away

That's you answer to denying Russia tried to take Kyiv?

[frank83628]

Just now, Hamus Yaigh said:

That's you answer to denying Russia tried to take Kyiv?

Kiev, Spell it properly, not the American way,  but Yes, Putin never tired to take kiev, you are a fool for believing he did. But that's on you. 

[Digitalbanana]

20 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

he is now not even the elected leader

The country is constitutionally under martial law so cannot hold elections safely when Russians are marauding over it. The elections will take place after the Russians leave and peace is restored. Use your nonce.

[frank83628]

4 minutes ago, Digitalbanana said:

The country is constitutionally under martial law so cannot hold elections safely when Russians are marauding over it. The elections will take place after the Russians leave and peace is restored. Use your nonce.

Russians are in the East and not going anywhere...just like Crimea,  your your nonce. Tuen off your western propaganda channels.... its done. 

[SiSePuede419]

19 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Haha, yeah right, just as I expeted, nobody has confirmed Navalny was murdered.. but you know the truth right.... are you secret agent or something?

 

Trump said Zelensky was wearing too short of a skirt.

Shouldn't been dressed that way 

He was asking for it. 😲

[SiSePuede419]

24 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

nobody has confirmed Navalny was murdered

Comrade says in Russia is different ...

 

Prisoner's own fault they die in prison.

 

You're right.

 

KGB not allow proof of murder.

 

Kremlin rejects call for independent postmortem on opposition leader Alexei Navalny

 

[Hellfire]

9 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

There no reason why Zelenski should be forced by another nation / leader to hold an election.

 

It is valid that the Ukraine people might pressure him to hold elections, if they so wish. 

What about Putin being president for 25 years already? With all his political opponents killed or forced to leave Russia. Why this topic seems to be absolutely not interesting to the orange clown while he is deeply concerned with the Ukrainian elections?  

[beautifulthailand99]

12 hours ago, AlexRich said:

The so-called “Russia Hoax” was never a hoax at all. Trump giving Putin everything he wants and more and selling the US’s allies down the Swanny.

 

Khrushchev realised that the USSR could not defeat the USA conventionally, but it could be defeated if it could be divided and infiltrated. You are seeing this plan come to fruition with the election of Russian “asset” Donald J Trump. The American century is coming to an end, kleptocrats have taken over.

 

“You’ll never have to vote again” - only an idiot thought he was joking. You will have “Russian” elections from now on. And a wrecked Constitution. 

 

Putin has "won" by playing the long game—ruthlessly holding onto power at a massive cost in both blood and treasure, while subverting the West at minimal expense. Perhaps the U.S. and its allies shouldn’t have squandered countless lives and trillions of dollars ($6–7 trillion) fighting futile wars in the Muslim world. His victory is without parallel in the modern era, signaling the inevitable decline of the American empire—accelerated, no doubt, by Trump on steroids.

 

Meanwhile, Zelensky is facing a harsh reality check. As the genocidal ideologue Henry Kissinger aptly put it: "To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal."

When it comes to Russia, there are three ironclad rules: don’t poke the bear; they are neither as weak nor as strong as they appear (as Churchill observed); and they will eat their pets and live in filth before they yield to anyone. 

 

Zelensky, of all people, should have understood this. Yet Biden, Johnson, and their allies pursued a reckless strategy—bleeding Russia dry with  Ukrainian blood - with not enough material and money to win nor enough to lose.

[beautifulthailand99]

1 minute ago, Hellfire said:

What about Putin being president for 25 years already? With all his political opponents killed or forced to leave Russia. Why this topic seems to be absolutely not interesting to the orange clown while he is deeply concerned with the Ukrainian elections?  

Trump loves dictators indeed he is well on his way to be one.

[beautifulthailand99]

Another shoe falls.

 

The worst of the pamphlets claiming Ukraine has a rare-earths cache bears the North Atlantic Treaty Organization imprint and has been widely shared as the “Trump-is-right” proof. It was produced in December 2024 by the NATO Energy Security Centre of Excellence, based in Lithuania. Although affiliated with the military alliance, bearing its name and logo, the entity and its counterparts are autonomous bodies outside the command chain. The document is provocative: “Ukraine emerges as a key potential supplier of rare earth metals such as titanium, lithium, beryllium, manganese, gallium, uranium…” The list should ring every alarm. Anyone with a passing knowledge of chemistry knows none of those minerals are rare earths.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-02-19/trump-s-insistence-ukraine-has-rare-earth-elements-is-wrong

 

[frank83628]

9 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

There no reason why Zelenski should be forced by another nation / leader to hold an election.

 

It is valid that the Ukraine people might pressure him to hold elections, if they so wish. 

What about democracy and the will of the people?

Isn't that wait the West wages wars over,  Or only when it suits?

[beautifulthailand99]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

What about democracy and the will of the people?

Isn't that wait the West wages wars over,  Or only when it suits?

The Sucession has already begun and it will be brutal possibly presaging civil war.

 

https://archive.ph/OUpGH

 

In 2025, Ukraine’s nationalist fervor has waned, but this could be a temporary lull before another eruption of unrest. When nationalism is driven by vengeance and compounded by trauma, it often mutates into extremism. Ukraine may not escape this trend.
Vladimir Putin is undoubtedly factoring this into any peace deal. What he failed to achieve through his ‘special military operation’, he may attempt through destabilisation from within. A large group of unemployed, armed young men suffering from PTSD could be ripe for manipulation.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-slaps-sanctions-on-former-president-petro-poroshenko-viktor-medvedchuk/

[frank83628]

So, i know you know how you uys are always screetching about Dictators and Democracy, right & wrong, but you guys know zelenskys term as President  was over last year right, and now he is basically illegitimate, did you know, or didn't your MSM tell you that bit, so Zelensky has refused to hold elections and is essentially a dictator  just like  you say Mr Putin is. .

1= good dictator.

1= bad dictator

 

Total hypocrites 

[scorecard]

15 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

What about democracy and the will of the people?

Isn't that wait the West wages wars over,  Or only when it suits?

 

That's inherent in my comment.

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Just like that, for the left, elections are bad. Incredible.

Let me guess, elections are now undemocratic?

 

Both lines don't connect to my comment. 

[frank83628]

Putin keeps winning because he is the right man for the job. Liked by his people

[frank83628]

13 hours ago, AlexRich said:

The so-called “Russia Hoax” was never a hoax at all. Trump giving Putin everything he wants and more and selling the US’s allies down the Swanny.

 

Khrushchev realised that the USSR could not defeat the USA conventionally, but it could be defeated if it could be divided and infiltrated. You are seeing this plan come to fruition with the election of Russian “asset” Donald J Trump. The American century is coming to an end, kleptocrats have taken over.

 

“You’ll never have to vote again” - only an idiot thought he was joking. You will have “Russian” elections from now on. And a wrecked Constitution. 

The Russia Russia Russia was a hoax from smday 1, orchestrated by Hillary Clinton herseelf

[beautifulthailand99]

Art imitating Life !

 

 

[save the frogs]

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

It's ok. The war will be brought to an end and it will be Trump that does it. It's interesting that we can talk about negotiations/peace talks because if the Democrats won the war would rage on with no end in sight.

Seems to be that's where things are heading.

Yet people still come on here raving about how trump is insane. 

This forum is toxic and not the ideal place to try to objectively analyze anything thats going on politically. 

There's too much emotion involved in people's rants. 

 

[frank83628]

14 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Trump is constantly lying. That should not be a surprise for anybody.

And now his pal Musk adds his own lies - and promotes them on Twitter.

The brave new world.

 

Its laughable you call trump a liar, how many times on here have you guys had you hysterical MSM anti Trump stories blow up your faces?

Proved wring on practically every single one, get you act like nothing happened and move to the next load of tosh.

 

[SiSePuede419]

28 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Putin keeps winning because he is the right man for the job. Liked by his people

I hope you offered Vlad a towel after your tongue bath. 🛀

[AlexRich]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

The Russia Russia Russia was a hoax from smday 1, orchestrated by Hillary Clinton herseelf

The problem with the “gaslighting” is that eventually people see through it. You can’t judge Trump by what he says, but you can judge him by what he does. 
 

He’s attempting to hand over Ukraine to Putin whilst simultaneously extorting Ukraine for its rare Earth mineral deposits. Trump has been an asset of the Kremlin since the late 1980’s, when after a trip to Russia he paid for newspaper ads denouncing the USA’s involvement with NATO. He’s a traitor and a rat … and we can all see that now in real time. 

 

 

[beautifulthailand99]

BREAKING from POTUS just now.

 

Trump has the hyper intelligence of the NSA computer files which Sowden showed us that they know us better than we know ourselves. Zelenskiy is finished now , expect massive intelligence leaks about him and his cohorts soon which will no doubt shock many.

 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114031332924234939

 

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

BREAKING from POTUS just now and the POTUS is one Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114031332924234939

 

What a disgusting pack of lies!

[beautifulthailand99]

The Putin shills are not some nobodies on the internet but are the most powerful man on earth voted in by the American people. Utterly astonishing and we are going to a very dark place.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

The Putin shills are not some nobodies on the internet but are the most powerful man on earth voted in by the American people. Utterly astonishing and we are going to a very dark place.

Only correction is that we are ALREADY in a very dark place but of course there is plenty of room to get much much darker.

Trump is basically a Putin operative now.

That's why I call him a TRAITOR.

[beautifulthailand99]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Only correction is that we are ALREADY in a very dark place but of course there is plenty of room to get much much darker.

Trump is basically a Putin operative now.

That's why I call him a TRAITOR.

I would remove the word basically. I am convinced they have serious Kompromat on him and his family and not just the 'wee' tapes or more charitably Trump is an idiot with huge grudges that just says what he feels and has the ability to act upon it.