Zelinsky: The End Is Near

[save the frogs]

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

Sp if you believe that, you obviously know that President Zelensky has many villas

He probably has more villas than he knows what to do with. 

[0ffshore360]

Propaganda .

 

[Lacessit]

5 hours ago, connda said:

I imagine that Volodymyr Zelensky is going to be "made an offer he can't refuse" soon.  Retire to one of his many villas and enjoy the "savings" he has socked away for a rainy day from some offshore bank accouts - or - be "retired" with extreme prejudice.  Either way, the end is near for Mr. Z.

"QUESTION: When President Trump posted that President Zelensky is a dictator without elections, what are you thinking?

SECRETARY RUBIO: I think President Trump is very upset at President Zelensky and – and some – and rightfully so. Look, number one, Joe Biden had frustrations with Zelensky. People shouldn’t forget it. There are newspaper articles out there about how he cursed at him in a phone call because Zelensky, instead of saying thank you for all your help, is immediately out there messaging what we’re not doing or what he’s not getting.

I think the second thing is, frankly, I was personally very upset because we had a conversation with President Zelensky – the Vice President and I, the two – three of us. And we discussed this issue about the mineral rights, and we explained to them, look, we want to be in a joint venture with you – not because we’re trying to steal from your country, but because we think that’s actually a security guarantee. If we’re your partner in an important economic endeavor, we get to get paid back some of the money the taxpayers have given – close to $200 billion. And it also – now we have a vested interest in the security of Ukraine. And he said, sure, we want to do this deal; it makes all the sense in the world – the only thing is I need to run it through my legislative process, they have to approve it. I read two days later that Zelensky is out there saying: I rejected the deal; I told them no way, that we’re not doing that. Well, that’s not what happened in that meeting. So, you start to get upset by somebody – we’re trying to help these guys."

Full interview of US SecState Rubio with Catherine Herridge
 

 

Do they pay you to parrot propaganda?

[save the frogs]

3 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Propaganda .

 

 

As is 80% of the news maybe? 

[0ffshore360]

Just now, save the frogs said:

 

As is 80% of the news maybe? 

Or is it the  new uninhibited era of BS presented cynically as Free speech ?

[Dcheech]

33 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Only a fool would think this guy doesn't do deals on the side. The mind of a lefty.

That is why AID programs, whether humanitarian, military or whatever give/try to give  credits for 60 to 75 per cent of the projected program/budget. Eliminates as much corruption as possible. Again one should REALLY think of it as its taxpayer aid to US business, military industrial complex and farmers, as to any  foreign countries. 

However that is likely far too leftist an idea for your brain pan to handle.  
 

[0ffshore360]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So why the dickens was Hillary selling our uranium to our enemy? Another charge she can face

 

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[Lacessit]

5 hours ago, bannork said:

Ukraine will fight on with European backing against the murderous Putin who has killed so many .Trump and his fellow appeasers should be eternally grateful to Zelensky because Ukraine has crippled the Russian army without one American soldier losing his life.

Long live Ukraine, three heroic years of fighting a blood thirsty autocrat.

Down with American appeasers, cowards the lot.

I can see US allies rushing for the exits. Canada is already signing trade deals with the EU and China.

 

Who wants to be an ally of a nation that hits them with tariffs?

 

Who would want to ally themselves with a nation of gutless appeasers, knowing no alliance is worth the paper it is written on, led by an unstable dotard?

[Mike_Hunt]

After three years of war, I’m certain he is eager for it to come to an end.  

[Lacessit]

35 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

They'll accept it in return for keeping the Donbass as it will be labelled the Tri-party security act or something stupid like that. And the USA will give Russia a guarantee that UKr forces won't attack. Wait and see, these are the weasel moves of old men after wars. Putin can then crow "no NATO in Ukraine. 

 

Weasel moves of old men after the war? 

 

Did we Allies not set out to defeat Germany and free Europe during WW2? Then walked away leaving half of Europe behind the Iron Curtain as we judged it wasn't worth charging into the Red Army to free Poland et al? 

Patton had the right idea, but was overruled by Washington. He could see further ahead than most.

[TedG]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Patton had the right idea, but was overruled by Washington. He could see further ahead than most.

I’m sure the world wanted more war after the defeat of Germany. 

[Harrisfan]

10 minutes ago, Dcheech said:

That is why AID programs, whether humanitarian, military or whatever give/try to give  credits for 60 to 75 per cent of the projected program/budget. Eliminates as much corruption as possible. Again one should REALLY think of it as its taxpayer aid to US business, military industrial complex and farmers, as a foreign countries. 

However that is likely far too leftist an idea for your brain pan to handle.  
 

Ranked one of the most corrupt nations in the world. 

 

[stevenl]

11 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Ranked one of the most corrupt nations in the world. 

 

Good thing then that the money and orders stayed in the US.

[blaze master]

5 hours ago, bannork said:

Ukraine will fight on with European backing against the murderous Putin who has killed so many .Trump and his fellow appeasers should be eternally grateful to Zelensky because Ukraine has crippled the Russian army without one American soldier losing his life.

Long live Ukraine, three heroic years of fighting a blood thirsty autocrat.

Down with American appeasers, cowards the lot.

 

I stand for the latest cause. Did you update your Facebook with the Ukraine flag too ?

[mogandave]

5 hours ago, stevenl said:

Far less than 200 billion was spent.

The money spent went straight to US arms manufacturers.

Which may have made some crony companies rich, but that US taxpayers paid for. 

[mogandave]

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

In the geo political area, US and Europe are, or maybe were, in general aligned. Russia and China are on the other side. So yes, Russia was an opponent and is much weaker now than 3 years ago.

What happened to the Russian reset, and the ‘80s calling and wanting their foreign policy back?

[Harrisfan]

52 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Do they pay you to parrot propaganda?

So he is poor while Ukraine is one of the most corrupt nations around. How does that work?

[Harrisfan]

25 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Good thing then that the money and orders stayed in the US.

On February 2, President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine said he had only received $75 billion

[Lacessit]

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

I just found another political analyst who claims Canada may join up with the EU to form CANEU superpower. 

Also, many EU countries are boosting their military. USA or Russia or China may not be the biggest superpower in the future? 

 

 

The only thing making Russia a superpower is its nuclear weapons. Given the amount of corruption and slipshod maintenance exposed in the army, there's some doubt as to how many actually work.

 

By any other metric, Russia is not a superpower. It's an unstable federation encompassing many ethnic groups, many of whom are restive under the Russian yoke. It is tribal, as Sir Laurens van der Post noted.

 

Its economy is now a train wreck. Its army would not stand a chance against NATO, even without America. Its GDP is a fraction of the US, EU, and China. As John McCain said, it's a big gasoline station.

 

You can bet China is eyeing eastern Siberia quite covetously. The pseudo-partnership may not last long. Xi holds all the cards.

[Mike_Hunt]

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

What happened to the Russian reset, and the ‘80s calling and wanting their foreign policy back?

Obama is a tool.

 

 

[mogandave]

4 hours ago, bannork said:

lol. Russia said they would be in Kiev in three days, three years ago.

 

lol. Four months ago Harris said she would be in the White House today. 

 

Imagine Walz taking in Berlin and Harris negotiating with Putin. Just keep the vodka flowing,,,,

[Mike_Hunt]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

 

 

You can bet China is eyeing eastern Siberia quite covetously. The pseudo-partnership may not last long. Xi holds all the cards.

 

I hope China makes a move on Siberia.

[MangoKorat]

6 hours ago, connda said:

I imagine that Volodymyr Zelensky is going to be "made an offer he can't refuse" soon.  Retire to one of his many villas and enjoy the "savings" he has socked away for a rainy day from some offshore bank accouts - or - be "retired" with extreme prejudice.  Either way, the end is near for Mr. Z.

Clearly a Pro Lunatic Trumpian - and just as he does, you offer no evidence for your claims.  Please provide evidence of Zelenskyy's villas and bank accounts (yes I can spell his name).  I do not mean evidence from other similar claims, I mean real evidence.

[mogandave]

3 hours ago, uncletiger said:

According to the Daily Mail, the deal is done. Zelensky has surrendered and granted mineral rights to the US.  I'm sure he's getting a nice retirement package somewhere for his cooperation.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14423219/volodymyr-zelensky-surrenders-donald-trump-sign-mineral-deal-hours.html

 

Interestingly, America granting Ukraine a "security shield" would seem to indicate America is going to be withdrawing from NATO, because I don't see any other context in which Russia would accept this.

The same mineral rights he was offering during his visit last year whuluke campaigning for Harris?

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, mogandave said:

lol. Four months ago Harris said she would be in the White House today. 

 

Imagine Walz taking in Berlin and Harris negotiating with Putin. Just keep the vodka flowing,,,,

What makes you think Harris would have negotiated with Putin?

[NoDisplayName]

6 hours ago, bannork said:

Ukraine will fight on

 

And Zelensky will move non-existent panzer battalions on his little war-room diorama in his Fuehrerbunker.

 

And Steiner will assault Stalingrad any day now, with air cover provided by the Ghost of Keeeeve.

 

And the suitcases full of benjamins and coke will be loaded aboard the helicopters ready for take-off............

[mogandave]

53 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I can see US allies rushing for the exits. Canada is already signing trade deals with the EU and China.

 

Who wants to be an ally of a nation that hits them with tariffs?

 

Who would want to ally themselves with a nation of gutless appeasers, knowing no alliance is worth the paper it is written on, led by an unstable dotard?

Do they pay you to parrot propaganda?

[MangoKorat]

5 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

US army is much stronger. US lost $200bn for nothing.

Yes, they are very strong. Their efforts in Vietnam and Afghanistan are evidence of that.

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, MangoKorat said:

Yes, they are very strong. Their efforts in Vietnam and Afghanistan are evidence of that.

Never heard of nukes 

[MangoKorat]

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I give him 48 hours. Lucky he squirreled away so much and has villas overseas to live his life in luxury, as a million Ukrainian mothers mourn the senseless death of their kids. It was for nowt.

Another loony, mind you, there's around 50 million of you, evidence please.