Zelinsky: The End Is Near

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

How nice it would be to have an honest discussion. 

With you?  🤣

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

With you?  🤣

🤣🤣🤣

[simple1]

2 hours ago, rough diamond said:

No it did not. 

Elections were held in the UK in July 1945 before the end of the war when the coalition fell apart and Churchill was kicked out.

 

After the European war ended when there was no longer a threat to the UK homeland

[simple1]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If that is supposed to be WW2, you are wrong. They had a coalition government for the war.

Britain had an election during WW1, which Lloyd George won.

Didn't the US have an election during WW2?

 

No Truman VP took over when Roosevelt dies. There was not an UK election during the European war in WW11. The Japanese did not pose a threat to the homeland

[MangoKorat]

14 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Support Ukraine how? Again, Zelensky had the support of the US and most of Europe and is at an effective stalemate after a million dead and wounded and losing a quarter of his population. 

Yet again you need to be reminded who invaded Ukraine and started the current war......................or, much like your great leader, had you missed that point?

[MangoKorat]

14 hours ago, transam said:

Let's hope so, both sides of the political divide must be horrified at Trump's handling of everything trying to be a dictator.

 

😱😱😱

 

I'm sure you're correct but have you noticed that nobody on the Republican side of the seemingly redundant US government is prepared to criticise any of Trump's actions.  Governance in the US over the last 5 or 6 weeks seems to have taken place by 'Executive Orders'. What is the role of congress these days?

[MangoKorat]

14 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Only the half that lost the election and runs the media are "horrified at Trump's handling of everything" and pretend he's "trying to be a dictator."

Get out of here.........Republicans are running scared of Trump's retaliatory nature. Musk appears to have more power than Congress now.

[Harrisfan]

5 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

Get out of here.........Republicans are running scared of Trump's retaliatory nature. Musk appears to have more power than Congress now.

Right once in 9 years. How embarrassing.

[Harrisfan]

9 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

I'm sure you're correct but have you noticed that nobody on the Republican side of the seemingly redundant US government is prepared to criticise any of Trump's actions.  Governance in the US over the last 5 or 6 weeks seems to have taken place by 'Executive Orders'. What is the role of congress these days?

Because the people love him and he is fixing problems. Egg on lefty faces.

[MangoKorat]

14 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

All the leftists here quit actually arguing years ago. All they do anymore is regurgitate leftist talking points and inane memes. 

Do you have any intelligence at all? Everyone who finds Trump's policies abhorent is a 'leftist' according to you but let's placate you OK?  All us 'leftists' on here find it incredible that Trump wants to normalise the relationship between the US and Putin's Russia.  This after decades of calling out (by both sides) Putin's actions..........incredible, the man is a pure lunatic.

[MangoKorat]

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Because the people love him and he is fixing problems. Egg on lefty faces.

He's actually creating problems - did you look at Wall Street today? I predict that this is just the start.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, MangoKorat said:

He's actually creating problems - did you look at Wall Street today? I predict that this is just the start.

Clueless. Hang your head in shame.

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

Do you have any intelligence at all? Everyone who finds Trump's policies abhorent is a 'leftist' according to you but let's placate you OK?  All us 'leftists' on here find it incredible that Trump wants to normalise the relationship between the US and Putin's Russia.  This after decades of calling out (by both sides) Putin's actions..........incredible, the man is a pure lunatic.

Angry rants. No bearing on the real world.

[MangoKorat]

14 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Zelensky had agreed to the terms prior to the meeting and then reneged.

Perhaps you'd like to tell the actual truth  - the whole story on that one?

[MangoKorat]

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Angry rants. No bearing on the real world.

You and Trump supporters appear to live in a parallel version of the 'real world'. That's both a laughable statement and one from someone who really has nothing factual to come back with.

 

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

Perhaps you'd like to tell the actual truth  - the whole story on that one?

Give up. You lost again. Z folded his cards completely. Complete cave in.

 

Wah wah wah from the left.

[Harrisfan]

Just now, MangoKorat said:

You and Trump supporters appear to live in a parallel version of the 'real world'. That's both a laughable statement and one from someone who really has nothing factual to come back with.

 

You posted no facts. You got 2020 right and everything else wrong for 9 years. Embarrassing how ignorant you lefties are. 

[Lacessit]

On 2/22/2025 at 8:26 PM, mogandave said:

Do they pay you to parrot propaganda?

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thank you.

[Cryingdick]

On 2/27/2025 at 6:53 PM, Cryingdick said:

Zelensky is done.

Zelensky is well done.

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

Angry rants. No bearing on the real world.

The same as all your posts.

[transam]

2 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

I'm sure you're correct but have you noticed that nobody on the Republican side of the seemingly redundant US government is prepared to criticise any of Trump's actions.  Governance in the US over the last 5 or 6 weeks seems to have taken place by 'Executive Orders'. What is the role of congress these days?

Probably the fear of losing their job and what ever else Trump can throw at them, well, he is an accomplished liar, and on his way to becoming a dictator, like his other chums he envies.......

[tifino]

On 2/22/2025 at 7:32 PM, stevenl said:

In the geo political area, US and Europe are, or maybe were, in general aligned. Russia and China are on the other side. So yes, Russia was an opponent and is much weaker now than 3 years ago.

Well, the Soviet bloc and CCP…

[tifino]

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Give up. You lost again. Z folded his cards completely. Complete cave in.

 

Wah wah wah from the left.

Dummy spits are great for entertainment value

[Hakuna Matata]

Trump Outfoxes Europe

Today’s session took place during the countdown to Donald Trump’s address to Congress tonight. Rumor has it that he will announce the U.S. withdrawal from NATO.

If he does so, then his sense of theater timing will be proven to be extraordinary.  I say this because withdrawal from NATO, which we may assume was always in his plans, normally would raise rancorous debate on Capitol Hill. However, by a stroke of luck, the Europeans this past weekend, set the stage for such withdrawal by repeating the disastrous mistake of Volodymyr Zelensky during his meeting with Trump on Friday. I have in mind the capital crime of lèse majesté.   You cannot publicly go up against the explicitly stated will of the President of the United States and expect to survive politically.

This is precisely what the 19 European leaders who convened in London at the invitation of Keir Starmer did: they embraced Zelensky warmly, after he had been thrown out of White House; they called for a cease fire that entails European boots on the ground and American back-up support, which Trump very clearly said on Friday will not be forthcoming. They positioned themselves very clearly as the ‘war party’ when Trump has positioned himself as the campaigner for a durable peace here and now.

If Trump does call for withdrawal from NATO, I expect he will get enormous support from those who are incensed at the temerity of the Europeans going up against their President.

Another highlight of this interview is our discussion of Trump the Realist, Trump the Internationalist, even if and when he pulls out of NATO.

[Hakuna Matata]

 

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, rough diamond said:

Russia does not own any part of Ukraine. 

It has invaded and occupied parts of Ukraine illegally.

Anything to say about a certain country invading and occupying parts of Lebanon and Syria illegally, or is it only wrong when Russia does it?

[transam]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Anything to say about a certain country invading and occupying parts of Lebanon and Syria illegally, or is it only wrong when Russia does it?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off-topic as usual...............

 

You, supporting an invader, is your problem, not us FREE folk............

[gamb00ler]

4 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

What is the role of congress these days?

adulatio vulgi - Latin for fawning mob (in the majority)

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Anything to say about a certain country invading and occupying parts of Lebanon and Syria illegally, or is it only wrong when Russia does it?

This is about Ukraine. 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Hakuna Matata said:

Trump Outfoxes Europe

Today’s session took place during the countdown to Donald Trump’s address to Congress tonight. Rumor has it that he will announce the U.S. withdrawal from NATO.

If he does so, then his sense of theater timing will be proven to be extraordinary.  I say this because withdrawal from NATO, which we may assume was always in his plans, normally would raise rancorous debate on Capitol Hill. However, by a stroke of luck, the Europeans this past weekend, set the stage for such withdrawal by repeating the disastrous mistake of Volodymyr Zelensky during his meeting with Trump on Friday. I have in mind the capital crime of lèse majesté.   You cannot publicly go up against the explicitly stated will of the President of the United States and expect to survive politically.

This is precisely what the 19 European leaders who convened in London at the invitation of Keir Starmer did: they embraced Zelensky warmly, after he had been thrown out of White House; they called for a cease fire that entails European boots on the ground and American back-up support, which Trump very clearly said on Friday will not be forthcoming. They positioned themselves very clearly as the ‘war party’ when Trump has positioned himself as the campaigner for a durable peace here and now.

If Trump does call for withdrawal from NATO, I expect he will get enormous support from those who are incensed at the temerity of the Europeans going up against their President.

Another highlight of this interview is our discussion of Trump the Realist, Trump the Internationalist, even if and when he pulls out of NATO.

If he pulls out of NATO that's all the Euro bases gone, which will be a good thing. NATO's reason to exist ended with the fall of the Soviet UNion. Euro nations should have grown some and kept their military at that strength, instead of pulling the funding and depending on the US to do the heavy lifting.

 

I suspect Trump will get around to some other countries that gave up a real military and depended on America's good will eg NZ.