Can Europe’s downfall be attributed to “white guilt”?

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

My family wealth mostly comes from exploiting the colonies financially.

So while I don’t personally do it, I am a beneficiary and do have some sympathy for the victims. 
I am living it up in Thailand as a direct result of it. 

Give your money back to your victims go home and start a life on your own then, instead of preening on the net. You cant hide from your fate, because in the world of the Socialists:

 

The first question is what class (race) you are from.

 

Your family is an exploiter to them and thus are you. 

 

 

[phetphet]

It's not so much white guilt per se. Rather Left wing white guilt. Too many bleeding heart liberals.

 

The next big UK payout will be to the descendants of slaves in the former Caribbean dependencies. A nice little earner.

 

Why the descendants of long passed Britains have to be made accountable is beyond me.

I certainly don't feel any guilt. It was nothing to do with me.

 

I have an alibi M'Lud. I wasn't even born.

 

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

My family wealth mostly comes from exploiting the colonies financially.

So while I don’t personally do it, I am a beneficiary and do have some sympathy for the victims. 
I am living it up in Thailand as a direct result of it. 

Give your money back to your victims go home and start a life on your own then, instead of preening on the net. You cant hide from your fate, because in the world of the Socialists:

 

The first question is what class (race) you are from.

 

Your family is an exploiter to them and thus are you. 

 

 

[Harrisfan]

9 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

People like me who have served their country, and protected the women and cowards keeping them safe.

We, not you obviously.

You are just a keyboard warrior.

Big difference 

So you invaded other countries unlawfully and feel guilty about it. Shame on you then. 

[lordgrinz]

20 minutes ago, Stocky said:

Which "European Downfall" are we talking about, over the centuries there have been a few

Roman

Byzantine

Frankish

Caliphate of Cordoba (Moorish Spain)

Portuguese

Spanish

Ottoman

Austro-Hungarian

British

Soviet

or Dictators

Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin

 

All have come and gone, but Europe has a habit of picking itself up and carrying on.

 

They also have a habit of complete instability.

[hotsun]

26 minutes ago, Stocky said:

Which "European Downfall" are we talking about, over the centuries there have been a few

Roman

Byzantine

Frankish

Caliphate of Cordoba (Moorish Spain)

Portuguese

Spanish

Ottoman

Austro-Hungarian

British

Soviet

or Dictators

Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin

 

All have come and gone, but Europe has a habit of picking itself up and carrying on.

The current one. You seem to be in denial

[ExpatOilWorker]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

From here:

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/would-central-europe-function-jeFSgFYdQISjBORJPrGGcg#0

 

"Without immigrants, Central Europe would likely face more severe labor shortages and demographic challenges, potentially exacerbating economic stagnation and pension system sustainability issues."

 

 

It's some time ago that I lived in Europe. But with all the old white native Europeans, who will work and who will pay for the pensions?

I am pretty sure politicians and economists see this problem, and this is why they allow/support immigration.

Obviously, people prefer some immigrants and not so much some others.

 

How would Europe cope without immigrants?

How would old people react if the pensions would be lowered and if there wouldn't be anybody who works as their caretaker?

 

That doesn't mean I want as much immigration as possible to Europe. But realistically they need immigrants.

 

 

 

Immigrants are a net drain.

[RayC]

21 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

 

I did a whole Topic on it and got nothing but flames from the Sociliasts, Hitlerites and euros. No argument as to the facts and reasons, just flames.

 

At least you're correct about one thing. Your previous overly simplistic argument that, 'National Socialism' and 'Socialism' are one and the same, was shot down in flames.

 

Your argument amounted to little more than, 'The Nazis official title is, Nationalsozialistischer Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP, National Socialist German Workers’ Party), therefore they must be socialists. As was pointed out at the time, to highlight the absurdity of this line of argument, the fact that North Korea is officially named (in English), 'The Democratic People's Republic of Korea', does not mean that it is a democracy. (You may have also stated that Mussolini initially described himself as a socialist as further supporting 'evidence' that fascism and socialism are 'one and the same'. Apologies if I am confusing you with someone else in this instance).

 

Without wishing to reopen that whole sorry topic, here's a couple (more) links offering a more nuanced view on the matter:

 

https://fee.org/articles/were-the-nazis-really-socialists-it-depends-on-how-you-define-socialism/

 

https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists

[baansgr]

Not at all, it's down to the millions of uneducated, lazy scrounging 3rd worlders...and befor you mention the NHS...it was fantastic 50 years ago before 3rd worlders with their phoney degrees written on rice paper arrived, now look at the state it's in. 50,000 stabbings alone in London last year...daily murders, rapes and all criminality you can think of. Nothing to do with white guilt but everything to do with the change in demographics 

[Yagoda]

Now on the other hand, the population increases and increase of civilization in the more primitive environs can be attributed to the Pirates of Blighty. 

 

I mean, every week I swoon at some ruined jungle temple from 1200 AD, realizing on the other hand that there is stuff over in Europe thats as old and you can still live in.

 

History is history. Move on. 

[MalcolmB]

37 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Give your money back to your victims go home and start a life on your own then, instead of preening on the net. 
 

 

I have thought about but we killed them all. 
I am happy to give half back, but I need the other half to donate to Thai bar girls.

[Yagoda]

12 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

At least you're correct about one thing. Your previous overly simplistic argument that, 'National Socialism' and 'Socialism' are one and the same, was shot down in flames.

 

Your argument amounted to little more than, 'The Nazis official title is, Nationalsozialistischer Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP, National Socialist German Workers’ Party), therefore they must be socialists. As was pointed out at the time, to highlight the absurdity of this line of argument, the fact that North Korea is officially named (in English), 'The Democratic People's Republic of Korea', does not mean that it is a democracy. (You may have also stated that Mussolini initially described himself as a socialist as further supporting 'evidence' that fascism and socialism are 'one and the same'. Apologies if I am confusing you with someone else in this instance).

 

Without wishing to reopen that whole sorry topic, here's a couple (more) links offering a more nuanced view on the matter:

 

https://fee.org/articles/were-the-nazis-really-socialists-it-depends-on-how-you-define-socialism/

 

https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists

Go paste your absolutely mertiless argument over in the correct Topic and I will clear up your stupidity. You should try to think for yourself instead of relying on Internet crib notes.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

I have thought about but we killed them all. 
I am happy to give half back, but I need the other half to donate to Thai bar girls.

Take it over to a Wat and truly expiate your crimes, otherwise, be deemed just another troll.

[Harrisfan]

5 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I have thought about but we killed them all. 
I am happy to give half back, but I need the other half to donate to Thai bar girls.

Classy

[RayC]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Go paste your absolutely mertiless argument over in the correct Topic and I will clear up your stupidity. You should try to think for yourself instead of relying on Internet crib notes.

 

Sometimes the use of internet crib notes is all it takes to debunk the facile arguments of those with extremely limited knowledge of a subject.

[Yagoda]

8 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Sometimes the use of internet crib notes is all it takes to debunk the facile arguments of those with extremely limited knowledge of a subject.

Translation: Ill just toss in a flame because Im afraid to debate. 

 

Note well the Socialist playbook, scream insults and run.

[Summerinsiam]

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Hitler was a socialist. Germans are only hurting themselves. Vance is right wing. How is being right wing dangerous? Leftist media brainwashing.

Hitler espoused national socialism, which was a far-right ideology and nothing to do with socialism as it is commonly understood. You are betraying your ignorance here.

[impulse]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

"Without immigrants, Central Europe would likely face more severe labor shortages and demographic challenges, potentially exacerbating economic stagnation and pension system sustainability issues."

 

I love the way they fearmonger labor shortages. 

 

What kind of labor?  The kind that picks the crops and build the homes for the newcomers?  Maybe there wouldn't be labor shortages if there wasn't a housing capacity crisis... 

 

It's not as if newcomers with a 3rd grade education from a 13th century technological (and theological) area are prepared to contribute more than they take.  If they're truly going to contribute in the net, there are visa programs for them.

 

[Harrisfan]

19 minutes ago, Summerinsiam said:

Hitler espoused national socialism, which was a far-right ideology and nothing to do with socialism as it is commonly understood. You are betraying your ignorance here.

Wrong he was a central controlist leftist. You are the ignorant one.

 

https://wallbuilders.com/resource/the-nazis-really-were-socialists/

[impulse]

2 hours ago, hotsun said:

Lets say hitler decided only to kick all the jews out of germany, instead of killing them all,

 

As I recall from my history books, that's what Hitler tried to do.  Deport the Jews by the shipload.  But none of the countries would take them in.  So I'd say there's a lot of white guilt behind today's situations, all over the planet.

 

[Yagoda]

33 minutes ago, Summerinsiam said:

Hitler espoused national socialism, which was a far-right ideology and nothing to do with socialism as it is commonly understood. You are betraying your ignorance here.

Search it out, there is a topic wherein you guys already lost but hey, open it up and show us what intellectual chops you have. Its the same philosophy, different enemies. Cant have Socialism without an enemy.

[RayC]

39 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Translation: Ill just toss in a flame because Im afraid to debate. 

 

Note well the Socialist playbook, scream insults and run.

 

Actuality: Matter already debated and premise debunked in another thread.

 

Post the link to your previous thread and allow others to see the evidence.

 

Btw: One of the 'crib notes' which I posted was from the Encyclopedia Brittanica website.

[baansgr]

Strange how nobody discusses Dictators such as Gaddafi who kicked out all the Italians from Libya only 50 years ago or Mugabe, or Amin, or many other modern day black or arab dictators...still revert to Hitler from 100 years ago..

[jayboy]

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

My family wealth mostly comes from exploiting the colonies financially.

 

What exactly does this mean? Can you be more specific?

[MalcolmB]

2 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

What exactly does this mean? Can you be more specific?

It is called Old Money.

[MalcolmB]

39 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

As I recall from my history books, that's what Hitler tried to do.  Deport the Jews by the shipload.  But none of the countries would take them in.  So I'd say there's a lot of white guilt behind today's situations, all over the planet.

 

Why wouldn’t any of the countries take the Jews?

[Yagoda]

33 minutes ago, RayC said:

Btw: One of the 'crib notes' which I posted was from the Encyclopedia Brittanica website.

Translation: I let others think for me.

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Why wouldn’t any of the countries take the Jews?

Traditional european jew hating. We even had it here in America until Meyer Lansky and Buggsy Siegel brought the boys for a Bund beatdown at MSG

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

People like me who have served their country, and protected the women and cowards keeping them safe.

We, not you obviously.

You are just a keyboard warrior.

Big difference 

When was your country (Australia) last invaded?

[connda]

Can Europe’s downfall be attributed to “white guilt”

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No.  It can be attributed to the class of European Elites who seek to destroy Europe's and individual European nation's national identities and turn the entire region into a semi-feudal second-world hell-hole.  Ordo ab Chao - Order Out of Chaos

France - Mission accomplished.
Germany - Mission nearly accomplished.
UK - Mission nearly accomplished.
Italy - "Wait a minute!"
Hungary - "We ain't playing that game."

USA - "We think you may want to rethink you anti-Democratic, anti-Free Speech, pro-Open Borders Migrant's First / Citizens Last policies.  No?  Ok - well enjoy your 25% tariffs.  And LNG prices are going to double.  And how's that war in Ukraine.  Wanna keep at it?  Cool, you're on your own but we're happy to sell you weapons."