US votes against the free world at UN

[Harrisfan]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The poster you are responding to likes cherry-picking history.

Some people look at facts, some people ignore facts. 

[theblether]

5 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Off topic, but deserving clarification: You're misinterpreting. What the other poster said was USA joined in with Russia to defeat the Nazis in WW11 which is not correct. US only declared war on Germany after Hitler had declared war on the US. Thankfully the Russians, with US material help,  did the most of the hard fighting in Europe to defeat the Nazis.

 

I know exactly what happened. FDR worried that Congress would only declare war on Japan but Hitler shortcircuited that by unilaterally declaring war on the USA. 

 

I do know the history. These word games are wilful. 

[theblether]

What a lot of Americans don't know is that the Irish contingent in Congress were quite happy to see Hitler defeat the UK. 

 

Thet believed underhanded neutrality would result in Germany handing them the dream - a United Ireland. 

 

Didn't work out well for them - and the embarrassment of Ireland being the only country in the world to send condolences to Germany on the death of Hitler was the icing on the cake. 

 

Know the history. 

[Harrisfan]

1 hour ago, theblether said:

What a lot of Americans don't know is that the Irish contingent in Congress were quite happy to see Hitler defeat the UK. 

 

Thet believed underhanded neutrality would result in Germany handing them the dream - a United Ireland. 

 

Didn't work out well for them - and the embarrassment of Ireland being the only country in the world to send condolences to Germany on the death of Hitler was the icing on the cake. 

 

Know the history. 

Best poster on here by a mile.

[simple1]

19 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Best poster on here by a mile.

 

No, Deflection and Off Topic

[theblether]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

No, Deflection and Off Topic

 

Laughable - read your previous post you halfwit. 

 

"Off topic, but deserving clarification:"

 

Dear me. 

[simple1]

36 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Laughable - read your previous post you halfwit. 

 

"Off topic, but deserving clarification:"

 

Dear me. 

 

Inferring Mod OK to delete if deemed inappropriate for one off comment. No need for the insult A person like you who considers themselves smart should know insults demonstrate lack of intelligence

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/27/2025 at 4:09 PM, BritManToo said:

There is no free world, except in some peoples imagination!

 

In a free world I'd be able to move from country to country without a passport or VISA and still keep my pension, healthcare and bank accounts with no risk of losing them. 

 

In a free world, my government wouldn't take money from me to give to wealthier countries as foreign aid.

Agree 100%. In a free world I'd be typing this in Thailand with my pension. It's my pension, but the government won't give it to me in LOS, so I'm not able to live there now. Sucks.

[MicroB]

On 2/27/2025 at 2:50 AM, Lacessit said:

That statement was probably correct prior to the second invasion of Ukraine.

 

The Russian army has been exposed as utterly incompetent in logistics. Its military equipment has been so inferior it has lost 4000 tanks. It does not even have air supremacy over Ukraine. Its Black Sea fleet has been forced to retreat from Sevastopol by a country with no navy.

 

Russian GDP is about $4 trillion. The combined EU GDP is $20 trillion. Russia population 144 million, combined EU population 450 million. God is on the side of the big battalions.

 

It depends on whether EU leaders can be cohesive enough to put boots on the ground in Ukraine. If they do, Russia is toast. Its only hope then would be tactical nukes.

 

Plus a difference in how to fight a war. NATO uses combined arms approach, which makes full use of accurate weapons. The Ukrainian and Russian Armies are both former Soviet Armies, lead by Soviet Generals. Sure, the Ukrainians have received training in Western weapons, but they are using them in a Soviet manner. Soviet tactics are based on having lots of really cheap weapons; not accurate, but you have lots of them. So there have been complaints that the Ukrainians have been using Javelins like they are RPGs. I expect that the Russian Army would find a Western military pretty devastating. The spoiler is.  nuclear weapons. But Soviet doctrine is based around strategic weapons, because their tactical weapons aren't very tactical. So they would take out, say, Gdansk, and the war is over.

 

[MicroB]

On 2/27/2025 at 8:04 AM, theblether said:

What a lot of Americans don't know is that the Irish contingent in Congress were quite happy to see Hitler defeat the UK. 

 

Thet believed underhanded neutrality would result in Germany handing them the dream - a United Ireland. 

 

Didn't work out well for them - and the embarrassment of Ireland being the only country in the world to send condolences to Germany on the death of Hitler was the icing on the cake. 

 

Know the history. 

 

50,000 Irish citizens fought for Britain in WW2, and the Irish Defence Forces saw 5000 desert to join the allies. The population certainly supported neutrality, though I suspect that was through an expectation that Britain would be out of the war soon enough, rather than expecting the new occupying powers would unify Ireland. Parts of the IRA, and certainly the Blue Shirts, backed Germany politically. Britain actually offered Ireland unification if it abandoned neutrality. The Irish didn't believe the British, so turned it down. Irish neutrality meant the USSR veto'd Ireland;s application to join the UN.