Bkk Brian Posted Wednesday at 09:09 AM Posted Wednesday at 09:09 AM 47 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I have nevertheless put the interview back in its context and I did so without resorting to a personal attack or any attempt at bypassing the profanity filter. The context is that Starmer made the prediction two years ago. Why would he make promises so far out?
johng Posted Wednesday at 09:44 AM Posted Wednesday at 09:44 AM 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: UK consumers don’t get cheaper oil or gas just because it was extracted from UK oil and gas fields. Well that's how it should work and if its not working like that it needs to change "ASAP" in the meantime they could buy some cheap Russian oil and gas ! And open the coal mines again lots of untapped energy still down there with the bonus of creating employment with real jobs not just pushing bits of paper from desk to desk. 🙄 2
Chomper Higgot Posted Wednesday at 09:51 AM Posted Wednesday at 09:51 AM Just now, johng said: Well that's how it should work and if its not working like that it needs to change "ASAP" in the meantime they could buy some cheap Russian oil and gas ! And open the coal mines again lots of untapped energy still down there with the bonus of creating employment with real jobs not just pushing bits of paper from desk to desk. 🙄 I wonder if you’ve thought through what would happen if the UK were to nationalize the property and businesses owned by some of the world’s most powerfully connected corporations? The UK isn’t going to be buying Russian oil and gas anytime soon.
johng Posted Wednesday at 10:10 AM Posted Wednesday at 10:10 AM 5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: nationalize the property and businesses owned by some of the world’s most powerfully connected corporations? The UK isn’t going to be buying Russian oil and gas anytime soon They seemed to have had no problem seizing Russian assets when it suited the narrative ? Anyway there is no immediate need to nationalise or seize assets just tell the companies that energy toward Britain comes first/must be cheap or there will be consequences... like tariffs !!! or non renewal of concessions/contracts. If the companies are non compliant then buy Russian oil and gas as a stop gap .....yes yes Putin Hitler yawn !!! And if they withdraw then re-nationalise ,abundant cheap energy is a vital national interest should never have been sold off to foreign interests in the first place. 1 1
soalbundy Posted Wednesday at 10:42 AM Posted Wednesday at 10:42 AM 2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said: No, it hasn't. I agree some area are a not so nice but there are some great places to live and be happy. I agree and all of those places have few or no well paying jobs for ordinary people. 1
youreavinalaff Posted Wednesday at 05:19 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:19 PM 6 hours ago, soalbundy said: I agree and all of those places have few or no well paying jobs for ordinary people. Incorrect. 1
Merrill Posted Wednesday at 11:49 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:49 PM The UK North sea gas is free they do not pay Neptune for it. Yet more expensive than the old Town gas made from coal. Let that sink in all a con 1
JonnyF Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM 15 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: The context is that Starmer made the prediction two years ago. Why would he make promises so far out? Same as all the other lies he told. To get elected. The "20 Billion black hole" was then created to justify doing the opposite of everything he promised. 1 1
Gweiloman Posted yesterday at 02:33 AM Posted yesterday at 02:33 AM From the OP; She argued that firms such as Centrica and Norwegian-owned Equinor, the UK’s largest gas supplier, are capitalizing on high prices while millions struggle. “It is therefore crucial that the government presses on with plans to fix this broken system and boost our energy security by rapidly increasing our supply of homegrown clean energy to free us from expensive gas and bring down bills for everyone for good,” she said. Tim Jarvis, Ofgem’s markets director general, acknowledged the difficulties consumers face, calling the rise “very unwelcome.” He explained that the regulator was forced to act due to substantial increases in wholesale gas prices. I wonder why that is. Last time I checked, China and India were buying gas on the cheap from that gas station masquerading as a country. I also heard that the Baltic states are recently paying double for their energy bills, much to EU’s delight. 1
vinny41 Posted yesterday at 03:35 AM Posted yesterday at 03:35 AM 17 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: I wonder if you’ve thought through what would happen if the UK were to nationalize the property and businesses owned by some of the world’s most powerfully connected corporations? The UK isn’t going to be buying Russian oil and gas anytime soon. Buying Russian oil and gas in 2024 doesn't seem to be an issue for the EU EU spends more on Russian oil and gas than financial aid to Ukraine – report Europe estimated to have bought €22bn of fossil fuels from Russia in 2024 but gave €19bn to support Kyiv https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/24/eu-spends-more-russian-oil-gas-than-financial-aid-ukraine-report 1 1
JonnyF Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago On 2/26/2025 at 3:39 PM, Chomper Higgot said: Investing vast sums of money in the dying embers of the oil and gas industry and in direct competition with the established oil and gas giants is one of the more bizarre ideas I’ve read on this forum. Dying embers, you say? https://news.sky.com/story/bp-slashes-renewables-investment-and-boosts-fossil-fuel-production-13317254 If you think the planet is going to be powered by windmills and hamsters on treadmills I have a second hand Chinese EV to sell you - just one small fire that started in the Lithium battery bay. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 18 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Dying embers, you say? https://news.sky.com/story/bp-slashes-renewables-investment-and-boosts-fossil-fuel-production-13317254 If you think the planet is going to be powered by windmills and hamsters on treadmills I have a second hand Chinese EV to sell you - just one small fire that started in the Lithium battery bay. Yes Jonny, dying embers. Nice strawman try this for scale: https://www.iea.org/reports/world-energy-investment-2024/overview-and-key-findings 1
JonnyF Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Yes Jonny, dying embers. Nice strawman try this for scale: https://www.iea.org/reports/world-energy-investment-2024/overview-and-key-findings Your link shows that global investment in fossil fuels has been increasing since 2020. Hardly dying embers. 😄 It also shows that emerging markets (the future energy users) are not buying into this rubbish. 1
placeholder Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago On 2/26/2025 at 9:50 AM, JonnyF said: More evidence that the UK's energy strategy is doomed to failure. What a miserable country it has become under Labour. Yours isn't the only clueless comment that blames the government and not rise in price of natural gas. 1
placeholder Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 5 hours ago, JonnyF said: Your link shows that global investment in fossil fuels has been increasing since 2020. Hardly dying embers. 😄 It also shows that emerging markets (the future energy users) are not buying into this rubbish. Ya think maybe that might be due to the facts that a)they don't have the same financial resources as do high income countries or countries with large economies b)because they are still developing they don't consume as much energy as do more economically developed nations?
johng Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 37 minutes ago, placeholder said: Yours isn't the only clueless comment that blames the government and not rise in price of natural gas. UK has its own natural gas reserves in the North Sea. It should be cheap as chips for UK consumers, the fact that it isn't is a huge scandal totally due to government/political mismanagement and/or a willful policy of energy deprivation in the deluded thought that it will "save the planet" ! 1
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