Anti-vaxers kill child in Texas

[Stiddle Mump]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

>> Rabies virus: Causes Rabies (severe brain inflammation).

>> Herpes simplex virus (HSV-1 & HSV-2): Causes Herpes encephalitis (brain inflammation).

>> Varicella-zoster virus (VZV): Causes Shingles & encephalitis (can damage nerves and brain).

>> Poliovirus: Causes Polio (can lead to paralysis and brainstem damage).

>> Measles virus (MV): Can cause Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (a rarebrain disorder).

>> JC virus: Causes Progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy (PML) (destroys brain’s white matter, common in immunocompromised people).

>> HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus): Can cause HIV-associated neurocognitive disorder (HAND) (progressive brain damage).

Where is/are the experiment(s) that isolated any of the quoted viruses? I'll help you Richard. There is/are none.

 

As there are no such things as viruses; what are vaccines for?

 

You are simply parroting the white-coat/Big Pharma narrative. No science involved what-so-ever. Just regurgitating a theory; that does not hold up to scientific scrutiny. 

[Stiddle Mump]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Viruses are quite visible with a Scanning Electron Microscope. The flu and corona viruses are distinguishable, based on their morphology.

Under microsophy a 'virus' is nothing more than part of a dead cell.

 

IMO. viruses are an aid to cell replenishment. Out with the old; in with the new. 

[Stiddle Mump]

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

This isn't binary subject - contrary to your implications, viruses can still be spread in clean and sanitary conditions....  to suggest otherwise presents a fundamental lack of understanding of basic science and virology (at very simple levels).

This is fundamentally incorrect. A virus is a dead entity. Even if it could spread it cannot cause the recipient any harm.

 

There is no such thing as a pathogenic virus. Virology is just a money making fraud for Big Pharma; and a gravy train for the white-coats involved.

 

 

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

This is fundamentally incorrect. A virus is a dead entity. Even if it could spread it cannot cause the recipient any harm.

 

There is no such thing as a pathogenic virus. Virology is just a money making fraud for Big Pharma; and a gravy train for the white-coats involved.

 

Too much wrong with all of your comments to bother replying to the idiocy... 

 

Just know that without viruses, you wouldn't even be alive.

 

 

 

 

[fredwiggy]

On 2/28/2025 at 5:31 PM, Gobbler said:

 

Mandatory where? Not in the USA.

To be enrolled in schools they are, otherwise no. There are some exceptions, but if an outbreak starts, un vaccinated children must stay out.

[Stiddle Mump]

On 2/28/2025 at 10:09 PM, richard_smith237 said:

 

Too much wrong with all of your comments to bother replying to the idiocy... 

 

Just know that without viruses, you wouldn't even be alive.

 

I do happen to know about viruses Richard. I've seen plenty of cell debris in labs thanks.

 

Under electron microscopy, a 'virus' is indistinguishable from common debris, including exosomes;; entities that aid the removal of toxic matter from cells. When the cell decays, it is broken down to aid expulsion. The body knows how to get rid of stuff it don't need or want. Been doing it for absolute ages.

 

You need to take a walk in the forest, without shoes on, Richard. Being at one with nature = being at one with the truth.

[richard_smith237]

29 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I do happen to know about viruses Richard. I've seen plenty of cell debris in labs thanks.

 

Under electron microscopy, a 'virus' is indistinguishable from common debris, including exosomes;; entities that aid the removal of toxic matter from cells. When the cell decays, it is broken down to aid expulsion. The body knows how to get rid of stuff it don't need or want. Been doing it for absolute ages.

 

You need to take a walk in the forest, without shoes on, Richard. Being at one with nature = being at one with the truth.

 

Your claim that viruses are indistinguishable from cell debris or exosomes under electron microscopy is incorrect - this alone suggests you my not have known precisely what you were looking at. 

 

Viruses, exosomes, and cellular debris can appear superficially similar, however, they are distinct entities with different structures, compositions, and functions.

 

 

Viruses Have Unique Morphological and Structural Features:

Under electron microscopy viruses exhibit specific symmetry, capsid structures, and sometimes lipid envelopes that differentiate them from random cellular debris.

Exosomes are extracellular vesicles that lack a capsid and genetic material for replication, unlike viruses. 

Trained virologists can distinguish viruses from cellular debris based on size, shape, surface proteins, and structural organisation.

 

Viruses Are Not Merely Debris – They Replicate:

Viruses are biological entities capable of hijacking a host cell to reproduce, something exosomes and debris cannot do.

The genetic material (RNA or DNA) inside a virus is distinct and encodes for replication inside host cells.

 

Electron Microscopy & Biochemical Techniques Confirm Viruses Exist:

Virologists use purification techniques, immunogold labelling, and molecular sequencing to isolate and confirm viral presence, separate from exosomes or debris.

SARS-CoV-2, HIV, and influenza viruses have been extensively imaged and studied using these methods, proving they are distinct from simple cellular waste.

 

The Body Does Not Simply “Expel” Viruses as Waste:

If the immune system only "expelled" viruses, viral infections would never establish or persist.

Instead, viruses actively evade immune defences, integrate into host genomes (HIV, herpesviruses), and use complex replication strategies to persist.

 

 

As for as your try “Walking Barefoot in the Forest” comment - your metaphor to 'become one with nature' is flawed - the implication that nature could replace our medical advancements is backwards thinking, though I agree we 'should' also look towards nature for answers, we have the technology to also look past nature and that saves lives.

 

 

In short: Viruses are not just cellular debris. They are distinct, identifiable biological entities with unique structural, genetic, and functional characteristics. The idea that viruses are indistinguishable from exosomes or debris is scientifically incorrect and does not align with decades of virological research.

 

[Stiddle Mump]

13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Your claim that viruses are indistinguishable from cell debris or exosomes under electron microscopy is incorrect - this alone suggests you my not have known precisely what you were looking at. 

 

Viruses, exosomes, and cellular debris can appear superficially similar, however, they are distinct entities with different structures, compositions, and functions.

Viruses Have Unique Morphological and Structural Features:

Under electron microscopy viruses exhibit specific symmetry, capsid structures, and sometimes lipid envelopes that differentiate them from random cellular debris.

Exosomes are extracellular vesicles that lack a capsid and genetic material for replication, unlike viruses. 

Trained virologists can distinguish viruses from cellular debris based on size, shape, surface proteins, and structural organisation.

Viruses Are Not Merely Debris – They Replicate:

Viruses are biological entities capable of hijacking a host cell to reproduce, something exosomes and debris cannot do.

The genetic material (RNA or DNA) inside a virus is distinct and encodes for replication inside host cells.

Electron Microscopy & Biochemical Techniques Confirm Viruses Exist:

Virologists use purification techniques, immunogold labelling, and molecular sequencing to isolate and confirm viral presence, separate from exosomes or debris.

SARS-CoV-2, HIV, and influenza viruses have been extensively imaged and studied using these methods, proving they are distinct from simple cellular waste.

The Body Does Not Simply “Expel” Viruses as Waste:

If the immune system only "expelled" viruses, viral infections would never establish or persist.

Instead, viruses actively evade immune defences, integrate into host genomes (HIV, herpesviruses), and use complex replication strategies to persist.

As for as your try “Walking Barefoot in the Forest” comment - your metaphor to 'become one with nature' is flawed - the implication that nature could replace our medical advancements is backwards thinking, though I agree we 'should' also look towards nature for answers, we have the technology to also look past nature and that saves lives.

In short: Viruses are not just cellular debris. They are distinct, identifiable biological entities with unique structural, genetic, and functional characteristics. The idea that viruses are indistinguishable from exosomes or debris is scientifically incorrect and does not align with decades of virological research.

 

Too much to answer in that post Richard. I'll respond in greater detail later.

 

Suffice it to say that a pathogenic virus has never been shown to exist. Never been isolated, and virology is. IMO, a fraudulent branch of medicine.

 

Don't you see Richard, that everything is nature. There is no need to look for a mystical, invisible entity, called a virus, that is out to get us at every opportunity. Better to point the finger at man-made stuff for our sicknesses. That includes measles (OP), covid, influenza and cancer.

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[richard_smith237]

18 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Too much to answer in that post Richard. I'll respond in greater detail later.

 

Suffice it to say that a pathogenic virus has never been shown to exist. Never been isolated, and virology is. IMO, a fraudulent branch of medicine.

 

Don't you see Richard, that everything is nature. There is no need to look for a mystical, invisible entity, called a virus, that is out to get us at every opportunity.

 

 

These entities that don't exist or are out to get us, for the most part (approximately 99% of them) are beneficial Viruses which often pay a neutral or a positive role.

 

They Regulate the Microbiome: Bacteriophages (viruses that infect bacteria) help control harmful bacterial populations in the gut, skin, and other body parts.

 

They Boost Immunity: Some viruses train the immune system to recognise and fight harmful pathogens.

  

They Fight Harmful Microbes: Certain viruses kill antibiotic-resistant bacteria, providing a potential tool for medicine (phage therapy).

 

The enable Gene Transfer & Evolution: Some viruses integrate beneficial genetic material into human DNA, playing a role in evolution.

  

 

The study of beneficial viruses is still evolving, and they may hold keys to new medical breakthroughs.

 

 

18 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Better to point the finger at man-made stuff for our sicknesses. That includes measles (OP), covid, influenza and cancer.

 

You've added a binary aspect to the discussion which highlights a flawed approach.

While I have little doubt that there are contributing factors to our illnesses and diseases that are man-made, the (your) suggestion implies that without these man made factors these illnesses and diseases would not exist and that is incorrect.

 

The issue with your debates Stiddle, is that you are partially close enough to having a valid response that it draws further debate - one of the points you have mentioned is stepping close to nature to discover solutions or avoid illnesses in the first place - one such method is the study of the Virome's positive role, but you don't believe it exists.

 

In 'stepping closer to nature' researchers have harnessed the tardigrade protein Dsup to protect healthy human cells from radiation damage during cancer treatments. This approach exemplifies how science draws inspiration from nature to develop innovative medical solutions.

 

 

[Drumbuie]

On 2/27/2025 at 6:36 AM, BritManToo said:

How many would have died from MMR vaccine related causes if all the children had been vaccinated?

You'd need a study of MMR vaccine death Vs Measles deaths before being able to make any sensible choice, but sadly no such study is available.

Actually......Finland conducted a study on 1.8 million children, lasting for 14 years from 1982 (when they introduced MMR vaccination) to observe any negative side effects. 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1119409/

There were less than 100 adverse reactions from over 3 million vaccinations, and none of them anywhere near as bad as the consequences of contracting Measles, Mumps or Rubella. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Immunisation Saved At Least 154 Million Lives Over Past 50 Years – WHO

 

Infectious Diseases 24/04/2024

 

"Immunisation has saved at least 154 million lives over the past 50 years, since the World Health Organization (WHO) launched its Expanded Programme on Immunization (EPI) in 1974. [emphasis added]

 

Of the lives saved, 146 million were children under five, and 101 million were babies.  Global infant deaths have reduced by 40%  and more than halved in Africa. [emphasis added]

...

The measles vaccine has had the biggest impact on reducing infant mortality, accounting for 60% of the lives saved – 94 million.

 

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/immunisation-has-had-a-massive-impact-on-human-survival/

 

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Interesting..........................................................

 

 

 

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Instead of the ire about one child who died from "measles" perhaps the ire should be on the hospitals.

 

 

[Gobbler]

On 3/2/2025 at 12:18 PM, fredwiggy said:

To be enrolled in schools they are, otherwise no. There are some exceptions, but if an outbreak starts, un vaccinated children must stay out.

Total nonsense. My son, who is almost 18, got his LAST vaccination at 9 months. I never had a problem enrolling him in school, in the USA.

[Gobbler]

I also never had a problem enrolling him in Thailand.  Stop the scaremongering.

[fredwiggy]

6 minutes ago, Gobbler said:

Total nonsense. My son, who is almost 18, got his LAST vaccination at 9 months. I never had a problem enrolling him in school, in the USA.

Some states require them, some aren't mandatory but your child may have gotten the primary ones by 9 months that are usually required. They aren' federally mandated but by state...........https://www.britannica.com/procon/school-vaccine-mandates-debate.

[fredwiggy]

Do you actually think Thailand has the level of care for children the US does?

[fredwiggy]

3 hours ago, Gobbler said:

Total nonsense. My son, who is almost 18, got his LAST vaccination at 9 months. I never had a problem enrolling him in school, in the USA.

DTaP: Diphtheria, Tetanus, & Pertussis

All 50 states and D.C. require the DTap vaccine (or another vaccine combination for diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis) for kindergarten entry.

IPV: Polio

All 50 states and D.C. require the IPV vaccine for kindergarten entry.

 

Varicella: Chickenpox

All 50 states and D.C. require the varicella vaccine for kindergarten entry, though some will accept proof of immunity (meaning the child had chickenpox) instead of vaccination. Some states list the MMRV (measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella) vaccine as appropriate.

 

MMR: Measles, Mumps, & Rubella

49 states and D.C. require the MMR vaccine for kindergarten entry. Some states list the MMRV (measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella) vaccine as appropriate.

Iowa, the only state to not require the MMR vaccine, requires a measles and a rubella vaccine, but not a mumps vaccine.

HepB: Hepatitis B

44 states and D.C. require the Hep B vaccine for kindergarten entry.

Alabama, Maine, Montana, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Vermont do not require the HepB vaccine for kindergarten entry.

 

HepA: Hepatitis A

17 states require the Hep A vaccine for kindergarten entry: Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Nevada, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, and Virginia.

 

Hib: Haemophilus Influenza Type b

Some states require this vaccine if the child is entering kindergarten before turning 5 years old. We have included only vaccine requirements for all kindergartners. Please consult your state requirements if the child will be 4 years old when entering kindergarten.

PCV: Pneumococcal

Some states require this vaccine if the child is entering kindergarten before turning 5 years old. We have included only vaccine requirements for all kindergartners. Please consult your state requirements if the child will be 4 years old when entering kindergarten.

State Vaccination Exemptions for Children Entering Public Schools

No U.S. federal vaccination laws exist, but all 50 states have laws requiring children attending public school to be vaccinated against diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis (generally in a DTaP vaccine); polio (an IPV vaccine); measles and rubella (generally in an MMR vaccine); and varicella (chickenpox). All 50 states allow medical exemptions, 45 states allow religious exemptions, and 15 states allow philosophical (or personal belief) exemptions. D.C. allows medical and religious exemptions.

While reasonable effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of the information provided, do not rely on this information without first checking with your local school or government.

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 Diphtheria

Diphtheria, according to the CDC, is “a infection caused by Corynebacterium dipheriae” that “causes a thick covering in the back of the throat. It can lead to breathing problems, paralysis, heart failure, and even death.”

In 1826, Pierre Bretonneau, a French physician, called the disease diphtérite and distinguished diphtheria from scarlet fever. In 1883, Swiss-German pathologist, Edwin Klebs, identified the bacterium that causes diphtheria and in 1884, Friedrich Loeffler, first cultivated the bacterium, which resulted in its first name of Klebs-Loeffler bacterium (it is now called Corynebacterium diphtheria). In 1890 Kitasato Shibasaburo, a Japanese physician and bacteriologist, and Emil von Behring, a German physiologist who would win the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1901 for his work on diphtheria, successfully immunized guinea pigs with a heat-treated diphtheria toxin.

Tetanus (Lockjaw)

Tetanus, according to the CDC, is “a serious disease that causes painful tightening of the muscles, usually all over the body. It can lead to ‘locking’ of the jaw so the victim cannot open his mouth or swallow. Tetanus leads to death in about 1 in 10 cases.”

Records from the fifth century first describe tetanus. Giorgio Rattone and Antonio Carle, Italian scientists, first produced tetanus in animals by injecting them with pus from a human case in 1884, the same year Arthur Nicolaier, a German internist, produced tetanus in animals by injecting them with soil samples. In 1889, Kitasato Shibasaburo isolated the tetanus toxin from a human and proved that the toxin can be neutralized by antibodies. In 1897, Edmond Nocard, a French microbiologist and veterinarian, demonstrated passive immunization. Gaston Ramon inactivated the tetanus toxoid with formaldehyde in the early 1920s. In 1924, P. Descombey produced the tetanus toxoid that was used in the U.S. military during World War II. [162][163]

Pertussis (Whooping Cough)

Pertussis (whooping cough), according to the CDC, “is a highly contagious respiratory tract infection. Although it initially resembles an ordinary cold, whooping cough may eventually turn more serious, especially in infants.”

In 1900 Jules Bordet and Octave Gengou, Belgian scientists, first observed Bordetella pertussis and then isolated the pertussis bacterium in 1906, it was called Bordet-Gengou bacillus. In 1925 Thorvald Madsen, a Danish physician, tested the pertussis vaccine; the 1925 report suggested the vaccine was a success but a 1933 report stated that two children may have died from the vaccine. In 1939, the pertussis vaccine was shown to be effective by Pearl Kendrick and Grace Elderding American scientists.[164]

In 1948, the DTaP (diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis) combination vaccine was developed. [165][166][167]

Hepatitis B

The CDC recommends that children receive the first dose of the hepatitis B vaccination at birth.

Hepatitis B (hep B), according to the CDC, is “a contagious virus that is transmitted through blood, blood products, and other body fluids (such as semen)… Symptoms include a sudden fever, tiredness, loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, dark urine, joint pain, and yellowing of the skin and eyes (jaundice).”

In 1965, Baruch Blumberg, an American doctor who won the Nobel Prize in Medicine (1976) for his work on hepatitis B, matched a protein found in an Australian Aboriginal’s blood with an antibody found in an American hemophiliac. First called the “Australian antigen,” it was discovered to be the hepatitis B virus and provided a source for the vaccine created in 1969. Because the virus could not be recreated in a lab, the first vaccine was a heat-treated form of the virus.

In 1981, the FDA approved Heptavax-B, a vaccine created by Maurice Hilleman. Because Heptavax-B used human serum and the fear of HIV infection was high, a new recombinant DNA vaccine, Recombivax HB, was licensed on June 23, 1986 that did not use human serum. As of July 2014, two hepatitis B vaccines are used, Engerix-B and Recombivax, as well as Twinrix (a hepatitis A and hepatitis B combination vaccine). [165][166][167][168][169]

Hib

The CDC recommends that children receive the first dose of Hib vaccination at two months of age.

Haemophilus influenza (which includes Haemophilus influenza type B, or Hib), according to the CDC, is “a bacterium that can cause severe infection, occurring mostly in infants and children younger than five years of age. In spite of its name, Haemophilus influenza does not cause influenza (the ‘flu’). It can cause lifelong disability and be deadly.”

In 1892, Richard Pfeiffer, a German physicist, isolated a bacterium from the lungs of flu patients that would be called “Pfeiffer influenza bacillus” in 1896 by Karl Lehmann and Rudolf Neuman in Atlas and Principles of Bacteriology. The bacterium was assumed to cause influenza. In the 1930s, researchers established that influenza was caused by a virus and not a bacterium so “Pfeiffer influenza bacillus” was renamed Haemophilus influenzae type B (Hib) as a nod to the incorrect association with the flu. In 1931, Margaret Pittman, an American researcher, linked Hib to meningitis. Later it would be confirmed that Hib can cause other serious diseases including infections of the skin, blood, bones, and joints; pneumonia; and epiglottitis.

Work on an Hib vaccine began in 1968 by Porter W. Anderson, Jr. and David Smith, which lead to a 1975 trial that showed the vaccine worked in infants but not toddlers. Smith founded a company to produce the vaccine when it was licensed in 1985 because no existing pharmaceutical company wanted to manufacture it. This HbPV polysaccharide vaccine was used until 1988. As of July 24, 2014, there are six Hib vaccines on the market (three for Hib only; one Hib/Hep B combination; one DTaP-IPV/Hib combination; and one meningococcal vaccine).[165][166][167][170][171]

Measles, Mumps, and Rubella

The CDC recommends that children receive the first dose of the MMR vaccination between 12 and 15 months of age.

Measles

The measles, according to the CDC, is “a highly contagious respiratory disease caused by the measles virus… Measles causes fever, runny nose, cough, and a rash all over the body. About one out of 10 children with measles also gets an ear infection, and up to one out of 20 gets pneumonia.”

In 900 AD, Rhazes, a Persian physician, distinguished measles from smallpox. In 1676, Thomas Sydenham, an English physician, added more detail in the distinction between the viruses and also distinguished measles from scarlet fever. Francis Home, a Scottish physician, successfully infected healthy patients with blood from patients with measles in 1757. In 1916, Charles Nicolle and Ernest Conseil, French researchers, discovered that people with measles developed protective antibodies in their blood, making them immune to the disease; the researchers used a serum made of the antibodies to show that the antibodies could protect healthy people from the virus. On Feb. 8, 1954, Thomas Peebles isolated the measles virus from a blood sample of 13-year-old David Edmonston. On Oct. 15, 1958, Sam Katz, an infectious disease specialist who worked with Thomas Peebles, tested the first measles vaccine, which worked but caused measles symptoms.

On Feb. 8, 1960, researchers in Boston tested a measles vaccine on children with intellectual disabilities in New York; the vaccine was effective at preventing illness but caused many side effects. In 1961, Henry Rubin, a virologist, developed a method of growing vaccines in chicken eggs to prevent leukemia that proved useful for developing the measles vaccine. In 1962 a killed-virus measles vaccines failed. In 1963, John Enders, a biomedical scientist and the “Father of Modern Vaccines,” and his team proved their measles vaccine was safe and effective to the FDA; the vaccine was licensed the same year. In 1968, Maurice Hilleman, debuted an improved version of the vaccine created that eliminated the use of human blood proteins and is still used as of July 22, 2014. [165][166][167][172][176]

Mumps

Mumps, according to the CDC, is “a contagious disease that is caused by the mumps virus. Mumps typically starts with a few days of fever, headache, muscle aches, tiredness, and loss of appetite, and is followed by swelling of salivary glands.”

In 1945 the mumps virus was isolated. In 1948 an inactivated vaccine was developed but it provided only short-term immunity and its use was discontinued in the 1970s. On March 30, 1967, the FDA licensed Mumpsvax, a mumps vaccine developed by Maurice Hilleman that was created from the mumps virus that infected his five-year-old daughter, Jeryl Lynn. This Jeryl Lynn strain of live attenuated mumps virus vaccine is still used as of July 22, 2014. [165][166][167][173][174][176]

Rubella (German Measles)

Rubella, according to the CDC, is “a disease caused by a virus. The infection is usually mild with fever and rash. But, if a pregnant woman gets infected, the virus can cause serious birth defects.”

Polio

The CDC recommends that children receive the first dose of the polio (IPV) vaccination at 2 months of age.

Polio, according to the CDC, is an incurable, “crippling and potentially deadly infectious disease caused by a virus that spreads from person to person invading the brain and spinal cord and causing paralysis.”

Polio was not discovered to be contagious until 1905 by Swedish physician Ivar Wickham. In 1908, Karl Lansdteiner and Erwin Popper identified and isolated the polio virus. The idea of a vaccine against polio was first introduced in 1910 as a result of research by Simon Flexner. In 1935 two teams tested a polio vaccine but neither were successful and both teams infected and killed some test subjects (the scientists, chimpanzees, human adults, and children). In 1951, Jonas Salk, and his team developed a method to cultivate polio virus in monkey kidney tissue in order to be able to produce large amounts of the vaccine. On Apr. 12, 1955, the results of the Salk vaccine trials showed the vaccine was 80-90% effective and the US government licensed the IPV (inactivated polio vaccine) vaccine the same day. The vaccination program was suspended on May 8, 1955 to investigate paralysis resulting from the vaccine injection; changes to the production method were made and vaccination resumed on May 27, 1955. On Aug. 24, 1960, a polio vaccine (OPV; oral polio vaccine) created by Albert Sabin, was licensed for use in the US and recommended by US Surgeon General Leroy E. Burney. In 1968 U.S. use of Salk’s IPV vaccine was phased out. Polio was declared eradicated in the Americas on Sept. 29, 1994 by the Pan American Health Organization. An improved version of Jonas Salk’s IPV vaccine was phased in again in 1997, because OPV had an increased risk of infecting children with the virus in the first dose. In 2000 the transition to all-IPV vaccine schedule was complete. [165][166][167][177][178][179]

Varicella (Chickenpox)

The CDC recommends that children receive the first dose of the varicella vaccination between 12 and 18 months of age.

Varicella, according to the CDC, is “a very contagious disease caused by the varicella-zoster virus (VZV). It causes a blister-like rash, itching, tiredness, and fever.”

In 1767, English doctor William Heberden first distinguished chickenpox (varicella) from smallpox (variola major and variola minor). In 1892, Hungarian pediatrics professor James Bokay wrote of the connection between chickenpox and later contraction of shingles; his theory was be proven correct in 1925 by K. Kundratitz. Thomas Weller first isolated the varicella virus in 1953. In 1974, Michiaki Takahashi attenutated (keeping the virus live but weakening it so that it is essentially harmless) the varicella virus, creating a vaccination. A version of that vaccine, Varivax, was licensed and used in the United States in 1995 and, as of June 25, 2014, remains the only varicella vaccination used in the United States. [165][166][167][180]

1. CDC, “Chickenpox (Varicella): Overview,” cdc.gov, Nov. 16, 2011

[Gobbler]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Some states require them, some aren't mandatory but your child may have gotten the primary ones by 9 months that are usually required. They aren' federally mandated but by state...........https://www.britannica.com/procon/school-vaccine-mandates-debate.

 

I provided no evidence to the school. 

[Gobbler]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Do you actually think Thailand has the level of care for children the US does?

Do you "actually," think I made such a statement? 

[fredwiggy]

7 minutes ago, Gobbler said:

 

I provided no evidence to the school. 

Then they might have assumed your child had them or the school was one that didn't require them, as was stated.

[Gobbler]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Then they might have assumed your child had them or the school was one that didn't require them, as was stated.

No one in a school assumes. Do you smoke recreational weed? 

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Gobbler said:

No one in a school assumes. Do you smoke recreational weed? 

What does that have to do with this? Read the link and you can decipher what laws they have. i didn't invent the laws but followed my states requirements for my children because I care for them.

[Purdey]

On 2/27/2025 at 3:45 PM, impulse said:

 

Both of those statements have been disproven by more up to date studies.

 

 

You could at least link to those studies. Not all of us are doctors!

[Purdey]

Lots of opinions from non PhDs, but quite a bit of science in the mix. 

[BangkokHank]

Article: The mainstream press is lying to you BIG TIME about the Texas child who "died from measles"

 

https://kirschsubstack.com/p/breaking-the-mainstream-press-is

 

The child died from medical malpractice, not the measles. By the way, they don't vaccinate in the community due to all the vaccine injuries they've had from "safe and effective" vaccines.

 

Key points:

1. The parents authorized release of the medical records to CHD.

2. The 6-year old child was recovering from the measles (and was out of danger from dying from the measles), but developed pneumonia.

3. The hospital gave the child the WRONG antibiotic combination (deviating from the standard of care).

4. The child got worse.

5. The doctors should have tried the correct antibiotic at that point, but did nothing.

6. The test results on the culture revealed the type of infection and the doctor ordered the correct medication, but it was ordered to be started 10 hours later (instead of immediately).

7. The correct medication was started after it was too late to stop the infection.

8. Note: the community avoids vaccines due to too many vaccine adverse events in the community. Apparently, the gaslighting (“this is normal”) is not working in this community.

[gamb00ler]

On 2/28/2025 at 2:13 PM, Stiddle Mump said:

There is no evidence that a virus has ever been isolated, let alone cause illness.

There is no evidence that electrons have ever been isolated, let alone convey potential energy.

 

Your silly, preposterous insistence that isolation is required for proof quickly turns to dust under any reasonable analysis.

[Stiddle Mump]

4 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

There is no evidence that electrons have ever been isolated, let alone convey potential energy.

 

Your silly, preposterous insistence that isolation is required for proof quickly turns to dust under any reasonable analysis.

The white-coats make claims about viruses. These claims are simply made up nonsense. It leads to people unnecessarily taking drugs and injections. Vaccines are encouraged to defend against something that has never been shown to exist.

 

One of the most powerful lobbies in the US, due to all the money sloshing around. People are compromised. Afraid to speak out. A well person is not a Big Pharma customer.

 

Nature has the answers we seek. We are part of nature. The body will self-heal given the chance. All this medicine leave humans vulnerable in later life.

 

Of course;;; if you are feeling under the weather go see a medical expert.