Private Schools Struggle as Labour’s VAT Policy Triggers Closures

[richard_smith237]

Just now, MalcolmB said:

They were different back in my day. Teachers used to belt us. Made us tough. 

 

So pathetic... 'made you tough'....   Boomers always come out with that rubbish... 

Certainly made you delusional. 

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Didn't you say you came from old money? You'd be as soft as melted butter if that's the case.

 

Who you fooling. You went to the most posh schools out there Mr nails. 

 

He's a delusional liar... 

[MalcolmB]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

had his trolling topic closed down yesterday,

That was ironic that one.

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Grammar schools aren't what they used to be. Most are only "Grammar" in name.

 

Some yes... some no...  Some are impossible to get into, with Exams and interviews etc... 

 

 

[MalcolmB]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

So pathetic... 'made you tough'....   Boomers always come out with that rubbish... 

Certainly made you delusional. 

I am not a Boomer.

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

He's a delusional liar... 

I am not a delusional liar

[jayboy]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

The private school boys have been triggered, ironically proving my point.

 

On this forum? I would be surprised if there were any, at least private schools that anyone had heard of.I'm certainly not one - a good state grammar school which got me to Cambridge.

 

Actually on the subject of softness, it's a fact that public school boys adapted best to National Service in the army (when the UK had conscription). It was the state school boys who hated the discipline and cried for their mummies having been coddled since babyhood.One public school boyswho had been imprisoned in Colditz felt the conditions compared favorably to Winchester College.

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

They are indeed.  But that's not a reason why they should be exempt from paying VAT!

 

I think its a solid reason for private schools not to charge 20% VAT...    Most of the private schools in Europe don't charge VAT... 

 

Give parents and children the best advantages.....   this isn't the way to do it.

[blaze master]

5 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Everyone seems to have missed I said…..

 

They were different back in my day. Teachers used to belt us. Made us tough. 

 

Ya did you walk uphill in the snow both ways too. 

 

 

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

you'd have beaten the Brit in Phuket far harder than that bouncer did....   

he got up

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

you'd have beaten the Brit in Phuket far harder than that bouncer did....   

he got up

 

You'd have killed him with a single punch you are such a tough guy....    

[richard_smith237]

9 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

had his trolling topic closed down yesterday,

That was ironic that one.

 

Thats not even my comment you've quoted....    Of course you are a boomer, you can't even use the internet properly !!

[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I think its a solid reason for private schools not to charge 20% VAT...    Most of the private schools in Europe don't charge VAT... 

 

Give parents and children the best advantages.....   this isn't the way to do it.

Buying the advantages and so VAT on advantages bought.

If you can’t afford the VAT you can’t afford to buy the advantages…. Oh but wait…. Millions of other parents can’t afford to buy those advantages either, regardless of VAT.

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

31 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve never claimed Private Schools make people soft.

 

Take that up with whoever did.

 

I did... then you defended him ye daftie... 

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

did... then you defended him ye daftie.

Chomped is not a daftie 

[MalcolmB]

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

course you are a boomer,

I am not a boomer

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I did... then you defended him ye daftie... 

I don mind defending anyone subjected to personal attacks.

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Buying the advantages and so VAT on advantages bought.

If you can’t afford the VAT you can’t afford to buy the advantages…. Oh but wait…. Millions of other parents can’t afford to buy those advantages either, regardless of VAT.

 

Thats just life... some buy better cars etc...   

 

But... its a different model to education....   Private Schools ease the burden on state-schools.

 

If private schools stopped this year, the state school system would collapse.

 

Of course, that won't happen....  and I get your point about 'privilege' but this is not a simple business model as can be compared to other businesses....   

 

Its yet to be full established how the numbers play out - but there may not be enough places in state schools... 

 

The state school system becomes more stretched, and those private schools which do survive become more 'elite'....    This policy creates a greater divide.

 

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I don mind defending anyone subjected to personal attacks.

 

Fair enough I do give Malcy quite a bit of stick - its because of his comments... 

Openly admitting to drink driving, not caring if he hits someone, stating how tough he is, that he'd have beaten guys up so they don't get back up etc.... 

 

He lies, misquotes, makes up stories.... and With such a vacuum of redeeming features its difficult not to call him out....    thats my bad for just not ignoring an fool.

 

[nauseus]

11 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Private schools make kids soft.

This generation needs to be a bit tougher, so a good policy.

 

Soft in the head?

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

.. Typical of Tough-man boomer stuck behind keyboard completely out of touch with this generation and any other... 

Ain't that the truth.

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

So pathetic... 'made you tough'....   Boomers always come out with that rubbish... 

Certainly made you delusional. 

He's talking garbage. I went to school with teachers that loved the cane, but it just made me hate teachers ( and school ). None of the guys I was with were "hard". So much for that BS.

[Chomper Higgot]

In this article, and a number of others on the subject of Private Schools and the imposition of VAT, mention is made of pre-existing financial difficulties, pre-existing mounting school debts and declining registration numbers.

 

I wonder what’s behind that?

 

 

[jayboy]

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Buying the advantages and so VAT on advantages bought.

If you can’t afford the VAT you can’t afford to buy the advantages…. Oh but wait…. Millions of other parents can’t afford to buy those advantages either, regardless of VAT.

 

 

 

 

I don't think most parents send their children to independent schools to "buy advantage".They do so to give their children the best education they can provide.The move by the Labour Government to charge VAT was driven by class spite.They loathe aspiration and rubbed salt in the wound by imposing the measure in the middle of the school year.No other country charges VAT on education and indeed some provide parents with a tax refund if they go independent.The money raised looks much smaller than rnvisaged and will not be ring fenced for state schools = another lie.The whole episode stinks.

[richard_smith237]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

In this article, and a number of others on the subject of Private Schools and the imposition of VAT, mention is made of pre-existing financial difficulties, pre-existing mounting school debts and declining registration numbers.

 

I wonder what’s behind that?

 

Without any shadow of a doubt 'Political alliances'.

 

Read other articles and we receive a complete different rhetoric - the truth is all the numbers are projections based and not based on any fact. We have some anecdote that family X is unaffected, that family Y had to move to a state-school thats outside of their catchment area, that family Z remains at their private school with state fees paid because their children can't be placed....

 

The reality is that no one truly knows - but another reality is that this government is undertaking a nationwide 'experiment' that could detrimentally impact the next generation the nations brightest prospects.

 

 

[Keep Right]

The left wing socialist labour party wants these private schools to fail because they do not adhere to the left wing ideology taught in the government schools.

[Chomper Higgot]

59 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Without any shadow of a doubt 'Political alliances'.

 

Read other articles and we receive a complete different rhetoric - the truth is all the numbers are projections based and not based on any fact. We have some anecdote that family X is unaffected, that family Y had to move to a state-school thats outside of their catchment area, that family Z remains at their private school with state fees paid because their children can't be placed....

 

The reality is that no one truly knows - but another reality is that this government is undertaking a nationwide 'experiment' that could detrimentally impact the next generation the nations brightest prospects.

 

 

Brightest prospects?

[youreavinalaff]

20 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Ranked sixth in the world.

England women are ranked 1st. By the sounds of it, they'd be more than able to bring you down the few pegs needed. 😁😁

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Brightest prospects?

 

That's right. They do exist. Just like in football or most anything else, really.

[Chomper Higgot]

57 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

That's right. They do exist. Just like in football or most anything else, really.

On the basis of probability they exist in the highest numbers amongst the students in State schools.