Fury Over 'Two-Tier' Justice as New Sentencing Guidelines Spark Political Backlash

[RuamRudy]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Do you not have google?

 

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/overarching-guides/magistrates-court/item/imposition-of-community-and-custodial-sentences-overarching-guideline/

 

 

 

 

So inclusive to all faiths rather than exclusive. 

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[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

So inclusive to all faiths rather than exclusive. 

 

Are you being deliberately stupid? Or can you not read? Because you appear to have completely misunderstood this. 

 

It is only necessary for a minority faith.

 

It is only necessary for ethnic minorities.

 

In other words, all other things being equal it is necessary for a 40 year old black man but not necessary for a 40 year old white man.

 

[Watawattana]

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

Labour has come under intense criticism over new sentencing guidelines that some claim will create a "two-tier justice system," offering preferential treatment to ethnic minorities, transgender individuals, and other specific groups.

Interesting.  I've always thought that someone who wants to be transgender has a mental health issue.  So this possibly is okay to be considered.  Unless it's a sex crime, where a "man" attacks a woman, the sentence should indeed be two-tier.  It should be trebled or more.

[brewsterbudgen]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Do you really thing the government is unable to prevent this?

 

Given that Lammy recommended it, do you really think they want to? 

We'll find out on 1 April.

[JonnyF]

45 minutes ago, Watawattana said:

Interesting.  I've always thought that someone who wants to be transgender has a mental health issue.  So this possibly is okay to be considered.  Unless it's a sex crime, where a "man" attacks a woman, the sentence should indeed be two-tier.  It should be trebled or more.

 

Mental health is already a factor in sentencing. 

 

There was no need to specify transgenders in these new guidelines. Although it does provide an interesting opportunity for a middle aged straight white male to move off the bottom tier in this multi tiered justice system, as long as he doesn't mind wearing a dress and a bit of lippy.   

[JonnyF]

6 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

We'll find out on 1 April.

 

An appropriate date for such a racist "development".  

[RuamRudy]

On 3/7/2025 at 1:35 PM, JonnyF said:

 

Are you being deliberately stupid? Or can you not read? Because you appear to have completely misunderstood this. 

 

It is only necessary for a minority faith.

 

It is only necessary for ethnic minorities.

 

In other words, all other things being equal it is necessary for a 40 year old black man but not necessary for a 40 year old white man.

 

 

Why is it that insults come so readily to the perma angry who either refuse to accept what they are reading, or fail to understand it?

 

The very reason that this is being proposed is because all things are currently NOT equal.

Just to help you along, I will repeat that.

The very reason that this is being proposed is because all things are currently NOT equal. 

 

The fact is that people from ethnic minorities tend to receive harsher sentences than white people who commit the same offences. This proposal is an attempt to make things equal. 

 

There, it wasn't so difficult, was it? Now go and look at some pretty flowers or eat some nice cake - try to drop that perma angry attitude for at least a minute or two. 

[SunnyinBangrak]

Another "conspiracy" proven to be fact. 2 tier justice is old hat in the UK.

[James105]

1 hour ago, RuamRudy said:

 

Why is it that insults come so readily to the perma angry who either refuse to accept what they are reading, or fail to understand it?

 

The very reason that this is being proposed is because all things are currently NOT equal.

Just to help you along, I will repeat that.

The very reason that this is being proposed is because all things are currently NOT equal. 

 

The fact is that people from ethnic minorities tend to receive harsher sentences than white people who commit the same offences. This proposal is an attempt to make things equal. 

 

There, it wasn't so difficult, was it? Now go and look at some pretty flowers or eat some nice cake - try to drop that perma angry attitude for at least a minute or two. 

 

Do you have links to back that claim up?  I agree its not equal as when was the last time you saw a black grandmother sentenced to 31 months in jail for making an offensive social media post?  To save you the searching this has never happened.   But seems to happen to white people on a regular basis.   2 tier justice and 2 Tier policing are commonplace in the UK and this merely puts it into writing.    You are aware its racist to treat people differently based on the colour of their skin?  This is exactly what you are supporting here.  Racism.   

[JonnyF]

6 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

The fact is that people from ethnic minorities tend to receive harsher sentences than white people who commit the same offences. This proposal is an attempt to make things equal. 

 

Got any evidence of that "fact"?

 

Seems like a figment of your imagination brought on by white guilt.

 

Did Ricky Jones get charged arrested and jailed to multiple years within a week of his incitement to violence?

 

No, didn't think so.

 

The white Tory councilors wife did though. 

 

Please provide some examples. I have plenty more.