When Does "Great" Start, MAGAs?

[Walker88]

I thought I knew what the meaning of “great” is, but apparently, I need a remedial course in semantics at POTUS’ eponymous university, as right now I’m quite confused.

 

I never would have thought a slowing economy on the verge of Recession or worse, a collapsing stock market, and alienation from former allies and friends equates to great. Neither would I have thought the world needs fewer air traffic controllers, or that treating veterans like vermin constitutes great, unless they really are just “suckers and losers”.

 

Seeing a brain-addled, likely ketamine-addicted clown lose half his net worth in 2 months is kind of entertaining, but that’s not great. Quite funny, yes, but the better angels in me do worry about inheritance for his ever-growing herd of weirdly named spawn.

 

Maybe POTUS gave us some hint when he answered a few questions aboard AF1 yesterday, or his White House issued a press release, but that also makes me wonder if I know any mathematics at all. “Great” must be hiding there somewhere.

 

When asked about the possibility of a Recession, POTUS ‘reminded’ us that “you’re going to get so many billions and billions of dollars from countries paying tariffs…you’re going to be so rich, you won’t even know where to spend all the money” (I bet the answer, if there is one, is at an online MAGA store schlepping Chinese-made goods that avoid the tariffs.)

 

That comment had me reaching for my copies of David Ricardo and Adam Smith works, because I am obviously confused about the nature of tariffs. Maybe if I sniff glue, OD on ketamine, or pop lots of Adderall I will see the light, as MAGAs do.

 

The press release that puzzled me had to do with the southern border, and a claim that illegal crossings are down “more than 100%”. Silly me, I thought percentages were limited on the downside. Must be the Even Newer Math. Perhaps it has something to do with fluctuating currency exchange and that Mexico finally ponied up for the wall that was never built. Or maybe he sent his trans-looking 3rd wife back to Slovenia or Slothvenia or the Sloth Republic or wherever it is she was lab manufactured. I’m not woke, but when I see her, I realize the species is due for some new pronouns. I can suggest a few, such as Ice Queen or Black Widow Wannabe or Whodatb!tch.

 

Anyway, so far this “great” thing is a bit too subtle for me to appreciate. I can see it’s making many of the MAGAs orgasmic, but most anything will do that to Incels. The bar is set low for guys so far below the mean they have to look up to see down.

 

As I write this, market futures are down again, Tesla has dropped another 3% from its Monday close, Consumer Sentiment is at a 4 year going low back to the Covid Era, Unemployment is rising, countries who are tariff targets of POTUS’ ever-changing policy are decisively imposing their own tariffs now, steel prices are up 30% since the end of January, lumber futures are up 20%, eggs are being sold online for $7 apiece, and in a time of bird flu, the new Agriculture Secretary advises Americans to buy their own chicken and keep it at home. I guess that’s the new way to stem pandemics: spread it around.

 

If all that’s “great”, then somebody please give me a little George Thorogood and Bad to the Bone.

[it is what it is]

 

inflation looming and a leader talking about recession, nice management of stock market expectations... so smart.

[bubblegum]

Exactly as expected. But you can't explain this to Maga's.

[RJRS1301]

5 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I thought I knew what the meaning of “great” is, but apparently, I need a remedial course in semantics at POTUS’ eponymous university, as right now I’m quite confused.

 

I never would have thought a slowing economy on the verge of Recession or worse, a collapsing stock market, and alienation from former allies and friends equates to great. Neither would I have thought the world needs fewer air traffic controllers, or that treating veterans like vermin constitutes great, unless they really are just “suckers and losers”.

 

Seeing a brain-addled, likely ketamine-addicted clown lose half his net worth in 2 months is kind of entertaining, but that’s not great. Quite funny, yes, but the better angels in me do worry about inheritance for his ever-growing herd of weirdly named spawn.

 

Maybe POTUS gave us some hint when he answered a few questions aboard AF1 yesterday, or his White House issued a press release, but that also makes me wonder if I know any mathematics at all. “Great” must be hiding there somewhere.

 

When asked about the possibility of a Recession, POTUS ‘reminded’ us that “you’re going to get so many billions and billions of dollars from countries paying tariffs…you’re going to be so rich, you won’t even know where to spend all the money” (I bet the answer, if there is one, is at an online MAGA store schlepping Chinese-made goods that avoid the tariffs.)

 

That comment had me reaching for my copies of David Ricardo and Adam Smith works, because I am obviously confused about the nature of tariffs. Maybe if I sniff glue, OD on ketamine, or pop lots of Adderall I will see the light, as MAGAs do.

 

The press release that puzzled me had to do with the southern border, and a claim that illegal crossings are down “more than 100%”. Silly me, I thought percentages were limited on the downside. Must be the Even Newer Math. Perhaps it has something to do with fluctuating currency exchange and that Mexico finally ponied up for the wall that was never built. Or maybe he sent his trans-looking 3rd wife back to Slovenia or Slothvenia or the Sloth Republic or wherever it is she was lab manufactured. I’m not woke, but when I see her, I realize the species is due for some new pronouns. I can suggest a few, such as Ice Queen or Black Widow Wannabe or Whodatb!tch.

 

Anyway, so far this “great” thing is a bit too subtle for me to appreciate. I can see it’s making many of the MAGAs orgasmic, but most anything will do that to Incels. The bar is set low for guys so far below the mean they have to look up to see down.

 

As I write this, market futures are down again, Tesla has dropped another 3% from its Monday close, Consumer Sentiment is at a 4 year going low back to the Covid Era, Unemployment is rising, countries who are tariff targets of POTUS’ ever-changing policy are decisively imposing their own tariffs now, steel prices are up 30% since the end of January, lumber futures are up 20%, eggs are being sold online for $7 apiece, and in a time of bird flu, the new Agriculture Secretary advises Americans to buy their own chicken and keep it at home. I guess that’s the new way to stem pandemics: spread it around. 

If all that’s “great”, then somebody please give me a little George Thorogood and Bad to the Bone.

Seems like the Moron in Chief, not only failed basis mathematics but also logical analysis

It will take civil rights demonstrations to unseat the Moron and his sycophants

He totally fails to understand how tariffs work, and no one near had the guts to correct him, his own people are paying the extra tax, however he could care less 

People think Musk is clever, not really he hires people to carry out his ideas, he supplies money only.

Neither the emperor nor his jester have any clothes at all and unfortunately his supporters are as deluded as he is

Wait until he is isolated like his mate in North Korea & for Putin he is a useful Moron 

[bubblegum]

As the market crashed 47 has all meetings cancelled. They now call him "bunker boy"

[Harrisfan]

Tesla had a PE over 100. More falls to follow.

 

 

average Nasdaq PE ratio over the past 10 years is 25.39.4 As of March 7, 2025, the Nasdaq PE ratio is 28.356

[Harrisfan]

2 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Exactly as expected. But you can't explain this to Maga's.

Magas are happy. 

[Harrisfan]

2 hours ago, it is what it is said:

 

inflation looming and a leader talking about recession, nice management of stock market expectations... so smart.

So how do you fix 25 years of too much spending? Talk nice? 

 

"The recession we had to have"

[John Drake]

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

I thought I knew what the meaning of “great” is, but apparently, I need a remedial course in semantics at POTUS’ eponymous university, as right now I’m quite confused.

 

Maybe Trump has a particular idea about what greatness is. Just for fun, I asked Grok if there were similarities between Trump and the Anti-Christ. Here is what Grok said:

 

This is an interesting question that blends theology, interpretation, and personal perspective. To address it, I’ll focus on what the Bible says about the Antichrist and leave the comparison to Donald Trump as a thought exercise for you, since drawing definitive conclusions about real people in this context is speculative and subjective.

The concept of the Antichrist appears primarily in the New Testament, notably in the Book of Revelation and the letters of John (1 John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3, and 2 John 1:7). Here’s a breakdown of the biblical depiction:

1. Opposes Christ: The term "Antichrist" suggests someone who stands against or in place of Christ. 1 John 2:22 says, “Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.” This implies a figure who rejects or undermines core Christian beliefs.
2. Deceptive Leader: In Revelation 13, a figure often associated with the Antichrist (the "beast") rises to power, deceiving many with signs and wonders, and demanding worship. This figure collaborates with a false prophet and exercises global influence, often through charisma or coercion.
3. Lawlessness: 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 describes the “man of lawlessness” (sometimes linked to the Antichrist) as one who “opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship,” setting himself up as divine. This suggests pride, rebellion, and a rejection of established moral or spiritual order.
4. End-Times Figure: The Antichrist is tied to apocalyptic events, ushering in a period of tribulation before Christ’s return, according to Revelation and Daniel (e.g., Daniel 7:25, where a figure “speaks against the Most High” and oppresses the faithful).

Now, applying this to Donald Trump—or any individual—depends on how one interprets his actions, words, and influence. Critics might point to his brash personality, polarizing leadership, or moments of self-aggrandizement (e.g., calling himself the “chosen one” in a 2019 comment about trade with China) as echoing the pride or deception of the Antichrist. Supporters, conversely, might argue he’s a defender of religious values, citing his appeal to evangelical Christians and policies like appointing conservative justices.

The Bible doesn’t provide a checklist of physical traits or a specific historical profile, so resemblance hinges on subjective judgment. Historically, figures from Nero to modern leaders have been accused of being the Antichrist based on their actions or the zeitgeist of their era. Trump’s a lightning rod—some see him as a savior, others as a villain—but that duality doesn’t inherently make him a biblical figure.

What’s your take? Are there specific traits or events you’re thinking of that spark this comparison for you?

 

 

 

[jerrymahoney]

Applying this to Donald Trump— 'cause he said it:

“We will begin a new era of soaring incomes,” Mr. Trump said at a rally in October. “Skyrocketing wealth. Millions and millions of new jobs and a booming middle class. We are going to boom like we’ve never boomed before.”

[Walker88]

20 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Maybe Trump has a particular idea about what greatness is. Just for fun, I asked Grok if there were similarities between Trump and the Anti-Christ. Here is what Grok said:

 

 

This is an interesting question that blends theology, interpretation, and personal perspective. To address it, I’ll focus on what the Bible says about the Antichrist and leave the comparison to Donald Trump as a thought exercise for you, since drawing definitive conclusions about real people in this context is speculative and subjective.

The concept of the Antichrist appears primarily in the New Testament, notably in the Book of Revelation and the letters of John (1 John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3, and 2 John 1:7). Here’s a breakdown of the biblical depiction:

1. Opposes Christ: The term "Antichrist" suggests someone who stands against or in place of Christ. 1 John 2:22 says, “Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.” This implies a figure who rejects or undermines core Christian beliefs.
2. Deceptive Leader: In Revelation 13, a figure often associated with the Antichrist (the "beast") rises to power, deceiving many with signs and wonders, and demanding worship. This figure collaborates with a false prophet and exercises global influence, often through charisma or coercion.
3. Lawlessness: 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 describes the “man of lawlessness” (sometimes linked to the Antichrist) as one who “opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship,” setting himself up as divine. This suggests pride, rebellion, and a rejection of established moral or spiritual order.
4. End-Times Figure: The Antichrist is tied to apocalyptic events, ushering in a period of tribulation before Christ’s return, according to Revelation and Daniel (e.g., Daniel 7:25, where a figure “speaks against the Most High” and oppresses the faithful).

Now, applying this to Donald Trump—or any individual—depends on how one interprets his actions, words, and influence. Critics might point to his brash personality, polarizing leadership, or moments of self-aggrandizement (e.g., calling himself the “chosen one” in a 2019 comment about trade with China) as echoing the pride or deception of the Antichrist. Supporters, conversely, might argue he’s a defender of religious values, citing his appeal to evangelical Christians and policies like appointing conservative justices.

The Bible doesn’t provide a checklist of physical traits or a specific historical profile, so resemblance hinges on subjective judgment. Historically, figures from Nero to modern leaders have been accused of being the Antichrist based on their actions or the zeitgeist of their era. Trump’s a lightning rod—some see him as a savior, others as a villain—but that duality doesn’t inherently make him a biblical figure.

What’s your take? Are there specific traits or events you’re thinking of that spark this comparison for you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not being a fan of any deity myself, I do note that POTUS has committed all Seven Deadly Sins and broken at least 9 of 10 Commandments, and possibly all ten.

 

Given his whackadoodle policies, I can't say those are anti-Christ, but they are anti-American.

 

If I know anything at all about the world's various superstitions, it's that to a one, POTUS is the kind of person every faith warns against becoming.

[Bannoi]

For an American president to say that "a recession would be an unfortunate but necessary step on the way to all-out depression" is quite frankly so absurb Im lost for words.

 

What that show's is just how unqualified he is for the job, what he is doing with tariffs is exactly what happened in 1930 with the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. 

 

The Great Depression of the 1930's may have been good for millionairs/billionaires who could buy up all the businesses that went bust for next to nothing but not for the overwhelming majority people who lost their jobs homes had no money and if they did couldn't afford to buy food or the things they needed do to the extrortionate prices and that ultimately leads to a rise in crime.

 

Good luck America you're going to need it.

[Walker88]

After the election, we were told we would enter a time of both great growth and "lib tears".

 

It didn't happen. MAGAs are the ones crying, while libs are chortling.

 

Of course the current carnage we are experiencing was totally expected, at least by those higher up on the evolutionary scale than turnips. The whole (sane) world is laughing at him.

 

I suspect the next few days will see POTUS doing a number of silly things. He will waffle on tariffs, apparently unaware that other countries are no longer listening. He will most certainly blame Biden, and might even add Obama and Clinton. He will attack late night talk show hosts who make fun of him, claiming "nobody watches their failing show anymore" and that they are "without talent". That will lead to a ratings boost for already popular Colbert, Kimmel and Meyers.

 

He has already ordered his Commerce Secretary to change the manner in which GDP is calculated, in the hope he can fudge a plus number out of what will surely be a minus. He might even close the stock market, or else claim the decline is a result of something like "illegal short selling by George Soros". POTUS' playbook is dog-eared and stained with ketchup, as he dredges up the same tired rant each and every time anyone suggests he's not the guy he expects people to believe he is. He's a loser, and he's bringing that uncanny talent for failure to the entire country.

 

Expect lots of 2am EST rage tweets. Should produce lots more laughs in the liberal community.

[Mavideol]

52 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Applying this to Donald Trump— 'cause he said it:

“We will begin a new era of soaring incomes,” Mr. Trump said at a rally in October. “Skyrocketing wealth. Millions and millions of new jobs and a booming middle class. We are going to boom like we’ve never boomed before.”

and the sad thing is that his maga supporters believed him 555

[Gottfrid]

4 hours ago, Walker88 said:

I thought I knew what the meaning of “great” is, but apparently

You can relax already there. For the MAGA´s "Great" is a massive and very popular word. Meaning and everything else, they do not have a clue about.

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

Job is gone

Medicaid is gone

IRA/401k down the tubes

Have to take out a loan to buy a dozen eggs

Don't dare get on a plane because the FAA has been gutted

The guy who mowed the lawn and shoveled the walks was deported

Can't get the bank to give money back because there's no Consumer Financial Protection Bureau any longer

 

I'm sure that MAGAs will agree that this is but a small price to pay for the sake of knowing there's no DEI at the university they don't attend and no trans people in the bathrooms they don't use.

[FritsSikkink]

This will hurt the MAGA crew bigly: 'That’s the big one to eliminate': Musk vows to cut a 'half trillion' from Social Security 

[transam]

4 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Exactly as expected. But you can't explain this to Maga's.

How true, they think he is a tough guy wiv spurs.........🙄

[transam]

5 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

This will hurt the MAGA crew a lot: 'That’s the big one to eliminate': Musk vows to cut a 'half trillion' from Social Security 

I think the pair of them should keep their heads down.......

[spidermike007]

Trump is completely lost, he is floundering, he does not seem to have a plan, unless that plan is to wreck the economy, he is very poorly advised, he has surrounded himself with bottom of the barrel nominees who give him consistently poor advice, and the entire administration is in way over their heads. 

 

The disaster of Trump 2.0 is starting to reveal itself, just wait as the drama will deepen, and the results will worsen, unfortunately. 

 

 

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Bannoi said:

For an American president to say that "a recession would be an unfortunate but necessary step on the way to all-out depression" is quite frankly so absurb Im lost for words.

 

What that show's is just how unqualified he is for the job, what he is doing with tariffs is exactly what happened in 1930 with the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. 

 

The Great Depression of the 1930's may have been good for millionairs/billionaires who could buy up all the businesses that went bust for next to nothing but not for the overwhelming majority people who lost their jobs homes had no money and if they did couldn't afford to buy food or the things they needed do to the extrortionate prices and that ultimately leads to a rise in crime.

 

Good luck America you're going to need it.

Well you're right in saying that he's unqualified for the job, as his first administration was a huge failure, but the other aspect of this is that the man does not have a compassionate bone in his sorry body, and he's willing to sacrifice the well-being and the financial livelihood of tens of millions in order to achieve what he thinks will be the end result of his dream, which we all know is just pure nonsense. 

 

Unless it's a whole lot more diabolical than we know, which is a strong possibility. 

[RJRS1301]

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

Applying this to Donald Trump— 'cause he said it:

“We will begin a new era of soaring incomes,” Mr. Trump said at a rally in October. “Skyrocketing wealth. Millions and millions of new jobs and a booming middle class. We are going to boom like we’ve never boomed before.”

Moron-in-Chief, trying to convince you that yes, there is a Santa Clause, however he is the Grinch 

[spidermike007]

A lot of people are under the delusion that Trump is smart because he's rich, but as a wise person once told me it's a whole lot easier to get rich if you're willing to steal the money, than it is if you labor to earn the money. 

 

17 of his businesses have failed in the past few  decades. Some at huge losses. Trump Steaks, Trump Shuttle Airline ($120 million in losses between 1988 and 1990), GoTrump, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trump Magazine, Trumped!. Many businesses that licensed his name went bankrupt, or went out of business. And he had between four and six major bankruptcies (depending on the source), including the Trump Taj Mahal (which he spent $1.2 billion building, and was $3 billion in debt within a year of opening), Trump's Castle, Trump Place Hotel (which was very successful prior to Trump buying it in 1988, and he managed to put it into $550 million in debt by 1992!), Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts ($1.8 billion in debt by 2004, bankrupt in 2009) , and Trump Entertainment Resorts. There are likely others.

 

And this does not take into account the 3,600 lawsuits he was involved in as of the time he first took office, the vast majority of which were filed by small contractors against his companies for non payment, or total default. Many of these contractors were crushed. It is part of his M.O. 

 

Promises made but never kept:

Every voter needs to be reminded of Trump's promises last time he was running:

 

He promised to cut the deficit. He added $8T.

 

He promised to build a wall. He only did 458 miles out of 2,000. Most of it was repair or replacement, not new.

He promised to make Mexico pay. They didn't. We did.

 

He promised to unveil a new healthcare plan. It didn't exist.

It never happened. 

 

He promised a middle-class tax cut. He cut taxes for the rich and big corporations. The middle class is still paying for it.

 

He said he wouldn't play golf as President. He made 250 visits (way more than Obama) to his own golf clubs. It cost taxpayers $150 million.

 

He said he'd increase economic growth by 4%. Nope. Biden did.

 

He promised an infrastructure plan. He had none. President Biden signed a massive one.

 

He promised to hire "the best people." He hired mostly incompetents, and the good ones he fired, and then said they were the worst ever, and they said HE was in fact the worst ever.

 

He promised to bring down the price of prescription drugs. He didn't: Biden did.

 

He promised a Hillary lock-up. Nope. 

 

Promised we'd win the trade war with China. Nope, It cost about 250,000 jobs and hurt Americans, not helped them.

 

He promised his corporate tax cuts would help and benefit workers, and corporations would use that money to invest in American workers. They didn't, they used that money to buy back stocks.

 

He promised to revive the coal industry. Never happened: more coal jobs were lost during his presidency.

 

There is very little that comes out of Donald's mouth that is the truth.....

[rough diamond]

12 minutes ago, transam said:

I think the pair of them should keep their heads down.......

I thought they had their heads up each others butt.

[RJRS1301]

3 hours ago, bubblegum said:

As the market crashed 47 has all meetings cancelled. They now call him "bunker boy"

He will be buying stocks on the way down, heavy investment in incontinence diapers for seniors

 

[Mike_Hunt]

5 hours ago, Walker88 said:

I thought I knew what the meaning of “great” is, but apparently, I need a remedial course in semantics at POTUS’ eponymous university, as right now I’m quite confused.

 

I never would have thought a slowing economy on the verge of Recession or worse, a collapsing stock market, and alienation from former allies and friends equates to great. Neither would I have thought the world needs fewer air traffic controllers, or that treating veterans like vermin constitutes great, unless they really are just “suckers and losers”.

 

Seeing a brain-addled, likely ketamine-addicted clown lose half his net worth in 2 months is kind of entertaining, but that’s not great. Quite funny, yes, but the better angels in me do worry about inheritance for his ever-growing herd of weirdly named spawn.

 

Maybe POTUS gave us some hint when he answered a few questions aboard AF1 yesterday, or his White House issued a press release, but that also makes me wonder if I know any mathematics at all. “Great” must be hiding there somewhere.

 

When asked about the possibility of a Recession, POTUS ‘reminded’ us that “you’re going to get so many billions and billions of dollars from countries paying tariffs…you’re going to be so rich, you won’t even know where to spend all the money” (I bet the answer, if there is one, is at an online MAGA store schlepping Chinese-made goods that avoid the tariffs.)

 

That comment had me reaching for my copies of David Ricardo and Adam Smith works, because I am obviously confused about the nature of tariffs. Maybe if I sniff glue, OD on ketamine, or pop lots of Adderall I will see the light, as MAGAs do.

 

The press release that puzzled me had to do with the southern border, and a claim that illegal crossings are down “more than 100%”. Silly me, I thought percentages were limited on the downside. Must be the Even Newer Math. Perhaps it has something to do with fluctuating currency exchange and that Mexico finally ponied up for the wall that was never built. Or maybe he sent his trans-looking 3rd wife back to Slovenia or Slothvenia or the Sloth Republic or wherever it is she was lab manufactured. I’m not woke, but when I see her, I realize the species is due for some new pronouns. I can suggest a few, such as Ice Queen or Black Widow Wannabe or Whodatb!tch.

 

Anyway, so far this “great” thing is a bit too subtle for me to appreciate. I can see it’s making many of the MAGAs orgasmic, but most anything will do that to Incels. The bar is set low for guys so far below the mean they have to look up to see down.

 

As I write this, market futures are down again, Tesla has dropped another 3% from its Monday close, Consumer Sentiment is at a 4 year going low back to the Covid Era, Unemployment is rising, countries who are tariff targets of POTUS’ ever-changing policy are decisively imposing their own tariffs now, steel prices are up 30% since the end of January, lumber futures are up 20%, eggs are being sold online for $7 apiece, and in a time of bird flu, the new Agriculture Secretary advises Americans to buy their own chicken and keep it at home. I guess that’s the new way to stem pandemics: spread it around.

 

If all that’s “great”, then somebody please give me a little George Thorogood and Bad to the Bone.

It's been great to watch people like you melt down. 

[Harrisfan]

6 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

It's been great to watch people like you melt down. 

Agreed. 

[Mike_Hunt]

6 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Agreed. 

I think these people are mentally ill.   Their entire lives are consumed. by Trump.  

[Liverpool Lou]

When Does "Great" Start, MAGAs?

 

How long has he been in office, Walker?                 

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Walker88 said:

I do note that POTUS has committed all Seven Deadly Sins and broken at least 9 of 10 Commandments, and possibly all ten.

Which POTUS are you referring to?  Clinton, I'm guessing, yes?