Do you consider yourself smarter than the average Thai?

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

please (politely) <deleted> off with your political <deleted>.

Politeness and civility are an anathema to the Left

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

IMHO, and the US Army's opinion...

These tests say a LOT.

 

Only necessary to read the tons of data available on the Internet.

 

If you are saying that:  The average citizen of PNG, living in the jungle, is smarter than the top undergrads at HARVARD, then you may be correct.  There is a very wellknown Harvard prof that argues this point.  And, he may be right.

 

When the balloon goes up, it will be the backwoods rednecks and Eskimos who survive. Plus all of Cambodia. They know what stuff is edible even if it isnt in a package.

[Mike_Hunt]

This is a tacky thread started by tacky individual.  

[Yagoda]

3 hours ago, transam said:

There is nothing wrong with my keyboard, if there was, I would buy a new one, if I didn't, I would live a sad and lonely life.........😥

You better reread that a few times hahahahahah 5555555555 OMG.

 

Let me help:

 

"There is nothing wrong with my keyboard." That is the present. Your keyboard is working. That is the subject, a keyboard. Next you say "If there was [something wrong with my keyboard] I would buy a new one". Since you used a comma, your statement of future intention relates to what would happen if there was in fact something wrong. You go on to say " I didn't [have a broken keyboard], I would live a sad and lonely life" Here your use of the word didnt relates to the condition of your keyboard. If it was broken, you would buy a new one, but if it is working, you lead a sad and lonely life.

 

You thus admitted what I said. Isnt reading comprehension fun?

 

Try working with single thoughts and periods. 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You better reread that a few times hahahahahah 5555555555 OMG.

 

Let me help:

 

"There is nothing wrong with my keyboard." That is the present. Your keyboard is working. That is the subject, a keyboard. Next you say "If there was [something wrong with my keyboard] I would buy a new one". Since you used a comma, your statement of future intention relates to what would happen if there was in fact something wrong. You go on to say " I didn't [have a broken keyboard], I would live a sad and lonely life" Here your use of the word didnt relates to the condition of your keyboard. If it was broken, you would buy a new one, but if it is working, you lead a sad and lonely life.

 

You thus admitted what I said. Isnt reading comprehension fun?

 

Try working with single thoughts and periods. 

Nope, there is no way I will lower myself to your standards, as for periods, I am not a female, different to you again.........😘

[jwest10]

20 hours ago, Robert_Smith said:

I disagree with you Charlie.

 

I think the main issue in Thailand is how they handle criticism when they do something wrong.

 

They act like petulant children, especially in a work setting...

 

I read the other day that the average IQ in Thailand is 89.

 

What do you think that says when it is extrapolated across the population as a whole?

 

regards.

bob.

What a very strange lead post!!!

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, sungod said:

 

At least my head is not wedged up my own a........

 

Bye

Run that past me again about nasty and vindictive.

[Lacessit]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

In our society we are indoctrinated from birth that our wife will be loyal and faithful and supportive.

Doesn't matter how smart you are, indoctrination nearly always wins.

 

Only experience allows us to break free, they will be unfaithful, they will asset strip you, they will bear false witness against you, they will deny you access to your children, NONE are different, it's in their genetic programming. Only fear of extreme punishment (or lack of opportunity) will stop this.

 

Allowing it to happen a second time is what sorts smart from stupid!

 

In Muslim countries where women gain nothing from divorce, and death from cheating, there is neither divorce nor cheating.

What would you do about it if your current Thai wife cheated on you? Or do you have an open marriage?

 

You are on record as cheating on her multiple times.

 

News to me there is no divorce in Muslim countries.

[BritManToo]

37 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

What would you do about it if your current Thai wife cheated on you? Or do you have an open marriage?

She can do what she likes during the day, but I've bought all her nights 

[Robert_Smith]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Thais have a completely different way of looking at the world, and a completely different way of relating to the world, and it makes it very difficult for us to truly evaluate their intelligence, but I think we consistently underestimate them. 

....I don't think we do.

 

Very few Thais manage to 'make it ' in the west, yet many farangs manage to make it in Asia.

 

Why?

 

it's because Thais only know Thailand and the thai way of doing things.

Their peripheral view is severely limited when it comes to globalism.

 

regards,

bob.

[JamesPhuket10]

23 hours ago, Robert_Smith said:

Just an empirical question, tis all...

 

Try not to take it too personally.

 

regards,

bob.

 

Yep, smarter than the average Thai, American, and European.

 

I have a master's degree in software engineering from Oxford University (Trinity). I won't list the other qualifications. 

 

I was a freelance software engineer for thirty years and worked for many large international companies in Germany, the USA, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, and the UK.

 

In addition, I had a large 200-seat Thai Restaurant near London for 27 years.

 

I also had properties developed which was a good business. 

 

I did start a few years late after leaving school at fifteen years old, it is called the "university of life" by some, I realised how crap such a 'university' is so I went back to school, then to a real university and never looked back.

 

Even now I still write commercial iPhone apps from my computer set up at home in Thailand. 

 

I am not saying this to show off, but if I claim like many others that I consider myself more intelligent than the average Thai then I have to show why I think that. 

[JamesPhuket10]

31 minutes ago, Robert_Smith said:

....I don't think we do.

 

Very few Thais manage to 'make it ' in the west, yet many farangs manage to make it in Asia.

 

Why?

 

it's because Thais only know Thailand and the thai way of doing things.

Their peripheral view is severely limited when it comes to globalism.

 

regards,

bob.

 

Just look at how many patents are granted each year in the various regions of the world, Nobel Peace Prizes in science, the origination of top-end science projects, I could go on. 

[JamesPhuket10]

7 hours ago, Presnock said:

absolutely, schooling, paper degrees etc really do not tell how smart one may be.   Compare their survival skills in relation to a non-schooled local in some jungle area.  Having gone through survival training by non-book schooled instructors I quickly learned how DUMB I really compared to them if I needed to survive in many areas of the world.  Even by western standards, survival in many cities is specific too.  Depening on how smart one may be determines how rapid he can recognized whatever skills are needed to survive in any particular area and if lacking find some other place to be.  I have lived and worked in many rather dangerous areas and managed to survive as I learned early on to recognize the possible dangers and what was necessary to avoid that danger.  Just like here in Thailand, reading the news daily lets me know that there are some real dangers here too so there are certain areas I avoid and precautions that i need to take in many other places here.

 

But Rambo, we live in the real world, not in a Hollywood movie.

 

But I do get your drift, I had to go through rigorous training to be able to open the door of my house, get into my aircon car, drive it to Lotus for example, and walk across to the aircon building to do my shopping.

 

Phuket and many other cities as so dangerous, for example, what would I do if I had forgotten my wallet, ah I have had training for that scenario too.😃

 

Paper degrees? Would you go and see a doctor if he only had a paper degree and not a degree in imagination like a lot of people seem to have? 

 

Would you get on an aeroplane built by people who are not qualified to build it?

 

[jimmybcool]

5 hours ago, Jonathan Swift said:

How about just a stυpid question? BTW tests don't really mean anything, they're known to be biased toward white caucasian Americans. Cramming for tests doesn't generally show what you've learned or your abilities, only what you've memorized. There are many forms of intelligence, many types of problem solving skills on top of emotional intelligence, for which there are no tests. Your question sounds racist. Differences in education categorized by race do not mean that an ethnic group is smarter than another. A lot depends on economic advantage, same as in any other country. I consider Thai people generally more peaceful and in many ways more evolved than the average arrogant entitled westerner. Why don't you see if you can come up with a question or two that might serve to educate you in some useful way? My bet is that you could use it. Lastly, let's turn the question around. I consider the average Thai person to be more intelligent than you. 

 

I would agree tests are really only useful within a set of one culture.  Testing an aborigine who lives i the outback versus a westerner would get massively different results but inherent intelligence might be the same.  But testing within the same culture can give one a clue as to how smart someone is in their own setting.

 

In my case I don't claim to be a genius.  Genius is in results not just a test.  I was always good at tests having an innate ability to guess the right answer. 

 

Based on things I DID do in my career I do have a higher IQ in some areas.  But no big brag.  No genius (I worked with some).

[JamesPhuket10]

13 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

I would agree tests are really only useful within a set of one culture.  Testing an aborigine who lives i the outback versus a westerner would get massively different results but inherent intelligence might be the same.  But testing within the same culture can give one a clue as to how smart someone is in their own setting.

 

In my case I don't claim to be a genius.  Genius is in results not just a test.  I was always good at tests having an innate ability to guess the right answer. 

 

Based on things I DID do in my career I do have a higher IQ in some areas.  But no big brag.  No genius (I worked with some).

 

The topic is not about genius, which was never mentioned, there are only a very limited number of geniuses now or before, Einstein for example, we are unlikely to ever come across a real genius in person. 

 

I wonder how many of those Aboriginal people realised living in the bush is not at all interesting and left to do something a bit more demanding. 

 

I suppose we could take that idea over thousands of years, we all started In Africa, then some groups would have said, "I wonder what is on the other side of that mountain", so they moved, over thousands of years, Europeans, Japanese societies were created for example, they contain the brains and the less intelligent remain in Africa still. 

[jimmybcool]

9 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

The topic is not about genius, which was never mentioned, there are only a very limited number of geniuses now or before, Einstein for example, we are unlikely to ever come across a real genius in person. 

 

I wonder how many of those Aboriginal people realised living in the bush is not at all interesting and left to do something a bit more demanding. 

 

I suppose we could take that idea over thousands of years, we all started In Africa, then some groups would have said, "I wonder what is on the other side of that mountain", so they moved, over thousands of years, Europeans, Japanese societies were created for example, they contain the brains and the less intelligent remain in Africa still. 

 

I worked in Silicon Valley at a start up in the 80s and 90s.  I worked with some real genius engineers.  But some of them also lacked other skills socially.  In the end most of us gat handed a set of assets.  Some more than others.

 

And I wished I had been gifted with athletic prowess instead of intelligence.  Or in music I always wanted to sing like Robert Plant in Led Zeppelin but was given a voice more along the lines of James Taylor or Harry Chapin.  Grass is always greener I guess.

[sungod]

14 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Run that past me again about nasty and vindictive.

 

 Unfortunately it seems to be the only type of language you use and understand.

[Lacessit]

13 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

 Unfortunately it seems to be the only type of language you use and understand.

So that justifies you. Bloody hypocrite.

[captain_shane]

On 3/15/2025 at 8:24 AM, jimmybcool said:

Having read a bit about IQ in general the consensus seems to be that national or racial gaps between different cultures and races is very small. 

Wrong.

[captain_shane]

23 hours ago, PoorSucker said:

Well, Thais elected Thaksin and US elected Trump. Think about it.

Both put a convicted criminal in charge.

Anyone who brings Trump up in every conversation is low iq. It's really the lowest form of conversation.

[Ralf001]

On 3/15/2025 at 9:31 AM, PoorSucker said:

Well, Thais elected Thaksin and US elected Trump. Think about it.

Both put a convicted criminal in charge.

 

What crimes had Thaksin been convicted of before he was elected (landslide victory) to prime minister in 2001 ?

[PoorSucker]

39 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

What crimes had Thaksin been convicted of before he was elected (landslide victory) to prime minister in 2001 ?

Not convicted before, afterwards. Look up Alpine golf course...another link to Trump.

I don't t know but Trump and Thaksin should be best friends, good for Thailand, no tariffs.

[Ralf001]

10 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

Not convicted before, afterwards. Look up Alpine golf course...another link to Trump.

I don't t know but Trump and Thaksin should be best friends, good for Thailand, no tariffs.

 

Ok, so the "Thai's" did not elect a convicted criminal as you previously claimed.

 

Thanks for clearing that up.

[hotandsticky]

2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Ok, so the "Thai's" did not elect a convicted criminal as you previously claimed.

 

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

 

Bend the answer as much as you like, but the Thais (particularly the Shinawatra clan) have a knack of circumventing the democratic process of voting.