Scientists Say NIH Officials Told Them To Scrub mRNA References on Grants

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National Institutes of Health officials have urged scientists to remove all references to mRNA vaccine technology from their grant applications, two researchers said, in a move that signaled the agency might abandon a promising field of medical research.

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The mRNA technology is under study at the NIH for prevention and treatment of infectious diseases, including flu and AIDS, and also cancer. It was deployed in the development of covid-19 vaccines credited with saving 3 million lives in the U.S. alone — an accomplishment President Donald Trump bragged about in his first term.

https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/nih-grants-mrna-vaccines-trump-administration-hhs-rfk/

 

[impulse]

6 hours ago, placeholder said:

It was deployed in the development of covid-19 vaccines credited with saving 3 million lives in the U.S. alone — an accomplishment President Donald Trump bragged about in his first term.

 

a)  That's what the scientists told him.

b)  That was before the (public) data showed all the adverse events and poor efficacy.

 

Now, everyone and their dog is trying to distance themselves from the mandates, if not the mRNA's themselves.

 

[Yellowtail]

6 hours ago, placeholder said:

National Institutes of Health officials have urged scientists to remove all references to mRNA vaccine technology from their grant applications, two researchers said, in a move that signaled the agency might abandon a promising field of medical research.

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The mRNA technology is under study at the NIH for prevention and treatment of infectious diseases, including flu and AIDS, and also cancer. It was deployed in the development of covid-19 vaccines credited with saving 3 million lives in the U.S. alone — an accomplishment President Donald Trump bragged about in his first term.

https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/nih-grants-mrna-vaccines-trump-administration-hhs-rfk/

 

So, they're asking them to cheat, must be leftists...

[Cameroni]

6 hours ago, placeholder said:

It was deployed in the development of covid-19 vaccines credited with saving 3 million lives

 

Yes, a spectacular success in the recovery from the common cold. Of course could also have been a natural recovery. But surely it was the vaccine.

[johng]

6 hours ago, placeholder said:

an accomplishment President Donald Trump bragged about in his first term.

 

Even Alex Jones is wrong sometimes he "admitted" recently,  Trump is not always correct either...no one is !

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12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, a spectacular success in the recovery from the common cold. Of course could also have been a natural recovery. But surely it was the vaccine.

Nonsense. Epidemiological studies showed where vaccine usage was lower there was a higher death rates.

The politics of COVID-19: Differences between U.S. red and blue states in COVID-19 regulations and deaths

Highlights
•Political party-affiliation has shaped response efforts to the COVID-19 pandemic.
•Red states had higher COVID-19 infection rates and deaths in 2021 compared to blue states.
•Red states implemented fewer political decisions to mitigate COVID-19 than blue states.
•Biological factors such as age and obesity predicted deaths only in red states.
•Vaccination rates predicted fewer deaths in blue states.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590229623000199

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31 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

a)  That's what the scientists told him.

b)  That was before the (public) data showed all the adverse events and poor efficacy.

 

Now, everyone and their dog is trying to distance themselves from the mandates, if not the mRNA's themselves.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/red-blue-america-glaring-divide-covid-19-death/story?id=83649085

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30 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Even Alex Jones is wrong sometimes he "admitted" recently,  Trump is not always correct either...no one is !

Some false statements from Trump's State of the Union Message:

Social Security databases show “3.5 million people from ages 140 to 149 and money is being paid to many of them.”

 

“We found hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud.”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-2025-address-to-congress

[impulse]

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Nonsense. Epidemiological studies showed where vaccine usage was lower there was a higher death rates.

 

Every single one of those parameters could be explained with variables other than vaccination status.  It could be overall health.  It could be overall access to health care.  It could be reluctance to see a physician and actually afford it.

 

Show me that study that followed the vaccinated and the unvaccinated through the entire cycle, including long term.  Adjust for variables like pre-existing conditions, age, etc.

 

You can't do it, because it hasn't been long term yet.  But the studies I have seen don't look too good for the vaccinated in terms of all cause mortality.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Every single one of those parameters could be explained with variables other than vaccination status.  It could be overall health.  It could be overall access to health care.  It could be reluctance to see a physician and actually afford it.

 

Show me that study that followed the vaccinated and the unvaccinated through the entire cycle, including long term.  Adjust for variables like pre-existing conditions, age, etc.

 

You can't do it, because it hasn't been long term yet.  But the studies I have seen don't look too good for the vaccinated in terms of all cause mortality.

 

 

 

I would guess it's the studies you haven't understood. But please share with us a couple of those studies.

In fact, death rates from covid were very similar in blue and red states until the advent of vaccination. 

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8 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Every single one of those parameters could be explained with variables other than vaccination status.  It could be overall health.  It could be overall access to health care.  It could be reluctance to see a physician and actually afford it.

 

Show me that study that followed the vaccinated and the unvaccinated through the entire cycle, including long term.  Adjust for variables like pre-existing conditions, age, etc.

 

You can't do it, because it hasn't been long term yet.  But the studies I have seen don't look too good for the vaccinated in terms of all cause mortality.

 

 

 

Vaccination slashes risk of long Covid, says large study tracing cases through Delta and Omicron variants

https://www.statnews.com/2024/07/17/long-covid-risk-reduced-by-vaccination-coronavirus-nejm-study1182483/

[johng]

19 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The politics of COVID-19: Differences between U.S. red and blue states in COVID-19 regulations and deaths

 

Can we mention Sweden again yet ?   they implemented the least restrictive Covidiocy measures and in the end after all was said and done came out at least as well if not better than those who went full "retard"

 

And how about the The Great Barrington Declaration which Jay Bhattacharya amongst others offered as the way forward right at the beginning of  the "pandemic"  not even controversial  only following "existing science"

until science its self  was  rewritten !!

 

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Some false statements from Trump's State of the Union Message:

 

Sorry what has that to do with the price of cheese  or more  recently  eggs ?

[johng]

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Vaccination slashes risk of long Covid, says large study tracing cases through Delta and Omicron variants

 

Long covid is probably mostly  but not all vaccine induced injures, says the  conspiracy theorist  who needs some new conspiracies as they all keep being proved true  😱

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1 minute ago, johng said:

 

Long covid is probably mostly  but not all vaccine induced injures, says the  conspiracy theorist  who needs some new conspiracies as they all keep being proved true  😱

Thanks for not sharing any evidence to counter he evidence I offered.

[Patong2021]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

a)  That's what the scientists told him.

b)  That was before the (public) data showed all the adverse events and poor efficacy.

 

Now, everyone and their dog is trying to distance themselves from the mandates, if not the mRNA's themselves.

 

 There is no data that shows  "all the adverse events and poor efficacy". Look, I get it that you are against vaccinations and have seized upon mRNA technology as a conspiracy, so just say that and not toss out false claims. mRNA technology has been saving lives  for over a decade, and there are thousands of cancer patients grateful for the advances.

 

The reason why the scientists are. stripping references to mRNA is because of the incompetent  corrupt man who is now  Secretary of Health and who is opposed to vaccines. Anyone associated with mRNA will be discriminated against. 

[johng]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Thanks for not sharing any evidence to counter he evidence I offered.

 

Thanks for not commenting on whether Sweden and Jay Bhattacharya (and Co)  had the right idea about this "pandemic" from the get go.

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Thanks for not commenting on whether Sweden and Jay Bhattacharya (and Co)  had the right idea about this "pandemic" from the get go.

 

I'd also thank him for not revealing the sources of funding behind the studies he's always pulling out of... somewhere.

 

[Patong2021]

And once again the uneducated  champions of an mRNA conspiracy ignore the reality that the Covid mRNA vaccines were a success. The recorded adverse reaction events do not support any conclusion other that they are safe.

 

 

 

[johng]

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

the Covid mRNA vaccines were a success.

 

Yes they where but not in the way you think !

[Patong2021]

12 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Thanks for not commenting on whether Sweden and Jay Bhattacharya (and Co)  had the right idea about this "pandemic" from the get go.

 

Sweden has stated that its initial managment of the pandemic, especially the reliance on "herd immunity" was inappropriate.  It adopted a more conservative  management approach. The end result is that Sweden has one of the highest Covid19 vaccination rates in Europe. East European countries which have historically been  resistant to vaccine use and where conspiracy claims found fertile ground have the lowest rate of. Covid 19 vaccination.  It should not be a surprise   that countries with poor national health like Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, and Russia have low vaccination rates.

[Yellowtail]

7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

And once again the uneducated  champions of an mRNA conspiracy ignore the reality that the Covid mRNA vaccines were a success. The recorded adverse reaction events do not support any conclusion other that they are safe.

 

 

 

The Trump vaccines you mean, yes? 

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3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The Trump vaccines you mean, yes? 

First off, only one of the 2 mRNA vaccines was developed in the USA. The other one was developed in Germany.

 

. Really, if not for Trump, who would ever have thought of developing a vaccine to use against a viral illness? Such outside the box thinking. I wonder if he was granted a patent for that?

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

First off, only one of the 2 mRNA vaccines was developed in the USA. The other one was developed in Germany.

 

. Really, if not for Trump, who would ever have thought of developing a vaccine to use against a viral illness? Such outside the box thinking. I wonder if he was granted a patent for that?

Sorry, the Trump vaccine...

[Patong2021]

10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The Trump vaccines you mean, yes? 

 

No the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines that had been in the pipeline.

However, as you are fishing for  some praise for President Trump, he gets it on this. He listened to his daughter Ivanka and son in law Jared, and the scientists and  made sure the vaccines could be produced in the USA. Unfortunately, the cuts in vaccine research are going to make a similar response in the future difficult.  Don't forget the contributions that came from Canada and the EU. 

[johng]

38 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Thanks for not sharing any evidence to counter he evidence I offered.

 

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/not-safe-and-not-effective

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Patong2021 said:

 

No the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines that had been in the pipeline.

However, as you are fishing for  some praise for President Trump, he gets it on this. He listened to his daughter Ivanka and son in law Jared, and the scientists and  made sure the vaccines could be produced. Unfortunately, the cuts in vaccine research are going to make a similar response in the future difficult.

Hey, remember Biden lying and trying to take credit for it?