Nightmare in Kursk: Ukrainian Troops Recount Devastating Retreat

[dinsdale]

18 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I wish I had kept the package, but I wanted to erase all trace of that shameful experience as fast as possible. All I can remember is that the packaging looked delectable, a beautiful photo of a meat pie and thing said "made in Australia". Since I could not find the real thing, a British meat pie, I thought I'd chance it, my Australian lawyer colleagues were always meticulous and sticklers for detail, surely they'd get a meat pie right? But no, whatever that was, it was a culinary Waterloo.The worst, I got had again! As my usual bagels were not available I thought I'd get a pack of Cole's bagels. Again, nice packaging, shame about the inside. I really do hope Australians eat better than the selection of Oz food they have in Tops. 

 

This one Australian pie and the Cole's Bagel. And the beef obviously, but the beef is really good so I'm keeping quiet about it.

Was this it? Sorry to bring back bad memories if it was. Like I said tough to give this a 1 out 10 as opposed to these real Aussie meat pies.

 

 

[dinsdale]

Looking at a map it would seem Sudzha is now fully taken back by Russian forces.

The blue area is Ukrainian held and the grey area is in dispute. The phone call between Trump and Putin will be interesting. I don't think a 30 day ceasefire will come out of it but if it does one of the conditions IMO will be Ukraine surrendering it's incursion into Kursk. Difficult one as Putin probably won't want a Ukrainian withdrawal from here and will want a total surrender of troops and equipment. Trump will want a withdrawal of troops with guaranteed passage back to Ukraine. This of course could be only one of many points of negotiation. We'll see.

 

https://deepstatemap.live/en#12/51.1763297/35.2269745

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Was this it? Sorry to bring back bad memories if it was. Like I said tough to give this a 1 out 10 as opposed to these real Aussie meat pies.

 

 

No, it was not this one. It was a carton with a glossy photo.

[SunnyinBangrak]

Any reporting on whether little Zelenskky regrets throwing a tantrum after being coached by evil losers before meeting the President and VP? As expected his outburst has caused much bloodshed. The guy needs replacing and fast, otherwise there will be no Ukraine left to save. 

Bet next time he meets the leaders of the free world he's wearing a Saville row suit and velvet kneepads and keeps his potty mouth game at home. 😅

[Hellfire]

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

So no evidence. You have nothing.

 

Okay.

Hmmm

[problemfarang]

11 hours ago, dinsdale said:

3 negative emoji replies to a previous post of mine by 3 posters whose grasp on reality has obviously left them and are too gutless to actually post a comment contradicting my post. The above article supports my post and what I've been posting for quite some time about the Kursk salient. Of course I got the standard emoji replies to these also. How about all you posters who replied with negative emojis to my posts apologise.  I was right. Kursk is all but gone and going into Kursk was a huge mistake.

More idiots responded with the standard emojis to this post also. Indeed all my posts regarding Ukraine/Russia war.

On 3/15/2025 at 10:14 PM, problemfarang said:

for your information:

 

there are no surrounded troops there.. all groups evacuated. i do believe only 1 group had problem.. but they managed to evacuated. but yes i know they have 3-4 POWs sadly

Rubbish. Absolute and complete rubbish. Blue is where Ukrainian forces are. Grey is territory recaptured by Russian forces in the previous 24 hrs. This is in Kursk.

https://deepstatemap.live/en#11/51.1237818/35.2990723

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tbh i couldnt decide which one you are..

a person who cannot read a map?

a person making comments like really old maps?

a person trolling...

you are the real rubbish

or.. you are a russian

 

there is a main road holding by ukranians. and my friend is right there told me there is nothing going on there just few drones and so on. my friend team trying to make a safe area there.. 

 

for your info. im in chasiv yar and have friends kind of at every front.. 

 

also if you think too much about the emojis.. i suggest you to see a doc. 

 

all the options... you are ignored by me from now on

[dinsdale]

Although this is a heavily Russian biased assessment it's extensive, well produced and shows the progression of the collapsing Kursk salient. If all footage is real i.e. when and where he says it is may or may not be the case but geolocations are mentioned and he does call out fake footage. Also the Ukrainian soldier's accounts in this article and various war maps support this vlogger's assessment. This is very interesting and gives some idea to how brutal this war is, how decision making is crucial, how effective the FPV drones are and how the Kursk incursion is now a total loss.

 

 

[dinsdale]

8 minutes ago, problemfarang said:

 

 

 

tbh i couldnt decide which one you are..

a person who cannot read a map?

a person making comments like really old maps?

a person trolling...

you are the real rubbish

or.. you are a russian

 

there is a main road holding by ukranians. and my friend is right there told me there is nothing going on there just few drones and so on. my friend team trying to make a safe area there.. 

 

for your info. im in chasiv yar and have friends kind of at every front.. 

 

also if you think too much about the emojis.. i suggest you to see a doc. 

 

all the options... you are ignored by me from now on

Kursk is gone. I need say no more except watch the above video.

[dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, problemfarang said:

a person making comments like really old maps?

Your not real bright are you. I will post this Deep State map again but this time point something out that you were obviously not clever enough to notice. THE DATE.

[problemfarang]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Although this is a heavily Russian biased assessment it's extensive, well produced and shows the progression of the collapsing Kursk salient. If all footage is real i.e. when and where he says it is may or may not be the case but geolocations are mentioned and he does call out fake footage. Also the Ukrainian soldier's accounts in this article and various war maps support this vlogger's assessment. This is very interesting and gives some idea to how brutal this war is, how decision making is crucial, how effective the FPV drones are and how the Kursk incursion is now a total loss.

 

 

 

i tell you why ukraine is loosing.

the main thing is... zombies.. yes it is.

 

orcs are attacking like zombie waved. 1 after another.. 1 after another.. they dont care about the soldiers.. they just send people to die till they get the area. 

 

we stop 2-3 waves.. by saying we stop them.. it means at least 12-20 dead orcs. and many vehicles.. obviously you have no idea what it means. also what it tales to hold this kind of attacks. russia doesnt use any weapon or tech but its own people. it is like this since the 2nd ww. but again you have no idea what im saying because youa re one of that brain washed russian. 

 

of course at some point we need to withdraw. because of ammo and other things. we care people.. we care lives.. we are not russians.. 

 

i can write another many things here but again.. the problem is people like you always comes up with funny things and they thing they are right even tho people show them how funny they are.. 

[problemfarang]

Just now, dinsdale said:

Your not real bright are you. I will post this Deep State map again but this time point something out that you were obviously not clever enough to notice. THE DATE.

 

well russian einstain.. 

even you can know things changes fast at front.. and again its something you will never understand. 

there is no encirclement there on that map.. 

[problemfarang]

8 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Kursk is gone. I need say no more except watch the above video.

 

yes it is.. like i said im always objective in my posts..

 

 

[dinsdale]

Just now, problemfarang said:

 

well russian einstain.. 

even you can know things changes fast at front.. and again its something you will never understand. 

there is no encirclement there on that map.. 

I never said there was an encirclement. I said supply lines have been cut or are in direct line of fire and yes things are moving fast. Ukrainian forces are withdrawing from Kursk into Sumi as fast as they can.

[problemfarang]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

I never said there was an encirclement. I said supply lines have been cut or are in direct line of fire and yes things are moving fast. Ukrainian forces are withdrawing from Kursk into Sumi as fast as they can.

 

 

well when i posted there is no encirclement ... your reply was not like that.. 

 

anyway.. im on my to kiev.. its our team 2 week rest time.. trust me i see and know many of your kind.. 

starting now i have no time for brain washed russian.. sorry mate.. enjoy your thailand.. beer.. while you can before putin gets you in his army lol

[dinsdale]

Kursk salient. A month ago and the latest map. (not updated today).

https://deepstatemap.live/en#12/51.1668583/35.2386475

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, dinsdale said:

There will be no ceasefire until the Kursk salient has been totally brought back under Russian control.

Latest on Al Jazeera- Putin has agreed to stop attacking Ukrainian energy infrastructure for 30 days, but nothing about stopping fighting on the front lines. I'm not sure if it's going to happen though.

I doubt Putin will allow the Ukrainians to reinforce under any circumstances- he's winning, so why would he give that away?

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Kursk salient. A month ago and the latest map. (not updated today).

https://deepstatemap.live/en#12/51.1668583/35.2386475

WOW! Need I say more?

[Jingthing]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Latest on Al Jazeera- Putin has agreed to stop attacking Ukrainian energy infrastructure for 30 days, but nothing about stopping fighting on the front lines. I'm not sure if it's going to happen though.

I doubt Putin will allow the Ukrainians to reinforce under any circumstances- he's winning, so why would he give that away?

You're funny.

The reason Putin went that way is that means that Ukraine would be required to stop attacking Russia's oil infrastructure. Ukraine has been incredibly effective with that. So on that aspect he's trying to get poodle Trump to force Ukraine to give up one aspect where they are winning against Putin. Putin is playing Trump for the sucker and horrible deal maker that he is. More like fart of the deal than art of the deal. 

As far as arming, it will be interesting whether the Europeans will play along with this surrender plan for Ukraine. 

[dinsdale]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Latest on Al Jazeera- Putin has agreed to stop attacking Ukrainian energy infrastructure for 30 days, but nothing about stopping fighting on the front lines. I'm not sure if it's going to happen though.

I doubt Putin will allow the Ukrainians to reinforce under any circumstances- he's winning, so why would he give that away?

It's nothing really. Although Ukraine has made some deep hits on Russian oil facilities none of them have been big enough to make a difference but this is still in Putin's self interest. As I mentioned earlier I doubted any ceasefire will happen until Ukrainian troops have been completely routed from Kursk which isn't too far off IMO. My guess is Trump has bigger cards up his sleeve to apply pressure to Putin. You're right about Putin and some of us (not many) on here have said that Putin is in the position of power in these negotiations. A thought I have is Putin knows how much of Ukraine he wants to take and when this has been achieved the front line will slow down and once massive defencive lines have been constructed a ceasefire will be negotiated.

[Nid_Noi]

18 hours ago, Hellfire said:

  What do you want to say exactly? That people in modern Russia are not afraid to support Putin but afraid NOT to support him? But this is exactly what I wrote in my previous post. 
I will repeat myself: you have no idea what a true government oppression is if you compare what happens in the West today to what happens in Russia. 

   You, many residents of the modern West, have forgotten how to value the freedoms and rights for which your ancestors died. Moreover, you don’t even notice their presence in your life, just as you don’t notice the air you breathe. Hence your comparisons, which do not withstand any objective criticism, with truly cannibalistic regimes. One day, perhaps, you will realize your delusion, but I fear it will be too late.

 

What about Ukraine? No more opposition either in the main street media and no more elections in the distant future.

Anyway elections would be a no-value until all Ukrainians are back home.

[NoDisplayName]

4 hours ago, dinsdale said:

A thought I have is Putin knows how much of Ukraine he wants to take and when this has been achieved the front line will slow down and once massive defencive lines have been constructed a ceasefire will be negotiated.

 

He didn't want to "take" any of it.

 

But now that we are where we are, he's going to keep what is now Russia:  Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, Kherson.

 

Whether Odessa will hold a referendum and vote for liberation depends on the actions of the nazi apartheid regime.

 

 

 

 

[FritsSikkink]

On 3/18/2025 at 9:47 AM, Eric Loh said:

It is a strategic as well as a symbolic decision to take Kursk and put Ukrainian in a good position to negotiate. Not pointless.  

It was, and they didn't succeed.

[Eric Loh]

5 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

It was, and they didn't succeed.

It was an audacious plan and served strategic purposes at that time. Putin was embarrassed and had to move troops from the heavy fighting in the Eastern front to Kursk.  It was also meant to give Ukrainian bargaining leverage.
 

Ukraine has now have developed longer range drones that terrorised Kremlin and that has given them bargaining leverage. Putin has to concede a 30 days ceasefire on infrastructure attack. They didn’t succeed in Kursk. Military strategy is dynamic as conditions changed. 

[Lacessit]

9 hours ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

He didn't want to "take" any of it.

 

But now that we are where we are, he's going to keep what is now Russia:  Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, Kherson.

 

Whether Odessa will hold a referendum and vote for liberation depends on the actions of the nazi apartheid regime.

 

 

 

 

Ukraine is not nazi. That's a canard put out by the Kremlin propaganda machine, after Ukraine briefly collaborated with the Nazis back in WWII. Ukrainians soon found out the Germans were no better than the Russians.

Please explain how a nazi regime is headed by a Jewish President.

 

Any apartheid results from Stalin migrating Russians into eastern Ukraine after he killed about 6 million Ukrainians in the Holodomor, genocide by mass starvation.

[NoDisplayName]

46 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Please explain how a nazi regime is headed by a Jewish President.

 

If it goosesteps like a nazi apartheid regime, and ethnically cleanses like a nazi apartheid regime...........

[beautifulthailand99]

On 3/18/2025 at 3:20 PM, dinsdale said:

Although this is a heavily Russian biased assessment it's extensive, well produced and shows the progression of the collapsing Kursk salient. If all footage is real i.e. when and where he says it is may or may not be the case but geolocations are mentioned and he does call out fake footage. Also the Ukrainian soldier's accounts in this article and various war maps support this vlogger's assessment. This is very interesting and gives some idea to how brutal this war is, how decision making is crucial, how effective the FPV drones are and how the Kursk incursion is now a total loss.

 

 

I love History Legends he has been bang on the money from the start and his in-depth analysis and curation of social media clips is second to none. The Russians pipeline coup in which they ambushed the Ukrainians behind their lines and pulled off an audacious and daring combined arms assualt just goes to show that when they get their act together they are a deadly force to be reckoned with. You don't poke the bear and those that refuse to acknowldge it are condemned to repeat the mistakes of those that previously did.

[beautifulthailand99]

15 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Ukraine is not nazi. That's a canard put out by the Kremlin propaganda machine, after Ukraine briefly collaborated with the Nazis back in WWII. Ukrainians soon found out the Germans were no better than the Russians.

Please explain how a nazi regime is headed by a Jewish President.

 

Any apartheid results from Stalin migrating Russians into eastern Ukraine after he killed about 6 million Ukrainians in the Holodomor, genocide by mass starvation.

That crude analogy is false but the legacy of nazi supporting Banderites shames the country and statues to him remain all around the country whereas Soviet era war memorials have been destroyed.

 

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/does-ukraine-have-a-neo-nazi-problem/

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

That crude analogy is false but the legacy of nazi supporting Banderites shames the country and statues to him remain all around the country whereas Soviet era war memorials have been destroyed.

 

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/does-ukraine-have-a-neo-nazi-problem/

Banderites are only a fraction of the resistance movements that grew in Ukraine during WWII.

 

It still does not explain how a supposedly nazi regime has a Jewish president.

[Hellfire]

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Banderites are only a fraction of the resistance movements that grew in Ukraine during WWII.

 

It still does not explain how a supposedly nazi regime has a Jewish president.

  I lived in Ukraine in 2012-2013, and the idea that Ukrainians are "Nazis" is pure propaganda. They are among the least extremist people one can imagine. The fact that over 70% of Ukrainians elected a Jewish president—something Zelensky has never denied—speaks for itself. Meanwhile, Russia has far more Nazi sympathizers, and its current regime exhibits clear fascist traits: aggressive expansionism, suppression of dissent, state-controlled media, and a personality cult around Putin. The hypocrisy of Russian propaganda is staggering—they accuse others of exactly what they themselves embody.

[mrwebb8825]

On 3/17/2025 at 10:00 PM, dinsdale said:

That strategy has failed and is no longer a negotiating chip. It has also resulted in the death/capture/surrender of top line troops and weaponry. There's no putting any icing on this cake. The Kursk salient has collapsed and it's a complete disaster for Zelensky.

Dmytro said. On March 14, his final message was bleak: "Everything is finished in the Kursk region... the operation was not successful."

Makes one wonder what the ex-comedian was thinking, depleting his best troops and our weaponry. Maybe he's basing these types of choices on his "Risk" game-board. He rolled good die and took that for a successful move.