Is Trump driving the US into a recession? – in charts

[sharot724]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/is-trump-driving-the-us-into-a-recession-in-charts

[candide]

The bext months will be interesting, after the effect of tariffs and other policies will become observable! 

[frank83628]

No, the left wing activist media just report every single thing in negative manner. Its called Donald trump derangement syndrome

[SunnyinBangrak]

28 minutes ago, candide said:

The bext months will be interesting, after the effect of tariffs and other policies will become observable! 

I still didn't hear an adequate explanation for all countries around the world imposing tariffs on US goods to protect and help their own economy. While when Trump imposes tariffs on other countries it's s disaster for the US economy.

They can't both be true.

[sharot724]

Maybe you missunderstood. The dissaster charts are really hard perhaps.

[candide]

31 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I still didn't hear an adequate explanation for all countries around the world imposing tariffs on US goods to protect and help their own economy. While when Trump imposes tariffs on other countries it's s disaster for the US economy.

They can't both be true.

Are you that  naive?

The U.S. was also imposing tariffs or other trade restrictions on other countries.

 

And few products were actually subject to tariffs.

[candide]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

No, the left wing activist media just report every single thing in negative manner. Its called Donald trump derangement syndrome

And you repeating the same message over and over is called propaganda! 

[Harrisfan]

5 minutes ago, candide said:

And you repeating the same message over and over is called propaganda! 

Trump on the brain 

[frank83628]

9 minutes ago, candide said:

And you repeating the same message over and over is called propaganda! 

I'm not the one having a daily meltdown over El Trumpo

[cjinchiangrai]

Short answer, yes. He is also trying to turn the US into an authoritarian disaster.

 

 

[candide]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I'm not the one having a daily meltdown over El Trumpo

Says someone who had a daily meltdown on Biden during years!

 

Not to mention your dayly meltdown on Zelinski, NATO, etc.... 

[cjinchiangrai]

1 minute ago, candide said:

Says someone who had a daily meltdown on Biden during years!

 

Not to mention your dayly meltdown on Zelinski, NATO, etc.... 

Just doing what Vlad says.

[sammieuk1]

Eggsactly he is 🥚🥚 🤔

[SunnyinBangrak]

53 minutes ago, candide said:

Are you that  naive?

The U.S. was also imposing tariffs or other trade restrictions on other countries.

 

And few products were actually subject to tariffs.

Perverse thrill being called naive by a poster that STILL claims the big guy is Hunters drug dealer and the lappy was Russian disinformation. Fine line between dishonesty and naivety isn't there.

[candide]

29 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Perverse thrill being called naive by a poster that STILL claims the big guy is Hunters drug dealer and the lappy was Russian disinformation. Fine line between dishonesty and naivety isn't there.

You are making stuff up again, as usual! 

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, candide said:

Says someone who had a daily meltdown on Biden during years!

 

Not to mention your dayly meltdown on Zelinski, NATO, etc.... 

The  Biden years... yeah right, I only ever comment here against you and your DTDS crew members daily  screetching meltdowns, I've seen the lets trump since 2016, not started a thread about it here to this day...screetchy old age pensioners acting like children

[johng]

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I still didn't hear an adequate explanation for all countries around the world imposing tariffs on US goods to protect and help their own economy.

 

Yes just look at the tariffs/taxes Thailand imposes on certain goods from other countries not just the US.

[worgeordie]

Trump ,and therefore the MAGAS think the countries exporting goods

to USA , are the ones that pay the tariffs , just wait till they realise  it's

a tax on THEM.

 

regards worgeordie

[cjinchiangrai]

20 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Yes just look at the tariffs/taxes Thailand imposes on certain goods from other countries not just the US.

They can collect the money for tariffs.

 

4 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Trump ,and therefore the MAGAS think the countries exporting goods

to USA , are the ones that pay the tariffs , just wait till they realise  it's

a tax on THEM.

 

regards worgeordie

Trump knows who pays the tariffs, they are raising the Federal Revenue so they can justify big tax payouts for Musk and Thiel.

[blaze master]

3 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Eggsactly he is 🥚🥚 🤔

 

I see you got the 100m memo.

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4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I still didn't hear an adequate explanation for all countries around the world imposing tariffs on US goods to protect and help their own economy. While when Trump imposes tariffs on other countries it's s disaster for the US economy.

They can't both be true.

Tariffs are now very low in most of the middle income and fully developed economies. You're living in the past. One big exception is India. 

[SunnyinBangrak]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Tariffs are now very low in most of the middle income and fully developed economies. You're living in the past. One big exception is India. 

So, small tariffs on US goods to protect other countries domestic economies are good. Any tariffs Trump imposes on other countries - whether big or small - are disastrous for the USA? Do I understand the msm consumers take on this correctly? Hard for me to accept the glaring flaw in logic being a free thinking being.

[SunnyinBangrak]

47 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Yes just look at the tariffs/taxes Thailand imposes on certain goods from other countries not just the US.

Exactly. Thailand imposes many 100's of % tariffs on imported cars and wine for example. Yet cars and booze are available in Thailand. Presumably these tariffs BENEFIT Thai producers of said products. Nobody is running around chicken little style claiming Thai tariffs are killing democracy or whatever garbage they have been falsely parrotting from dem propaganda.

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4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Exactly. Thailand imposes many 100's of % tariffs on imported cars and wine for example. Yet cars and booze are available in Thailand. Presumably these tariffs BENEFIT Thai producers of said products. Nobody is running around chicken little style claiming Thai tariffs are killing democracy or whatever garbage they have been falsely parrotting from dem propaganda.

You really want to offer Thailand as a bastion of democracy? And the fact is that Thailand's economy has been stagnating for years. It's in what's called a middle income trap.And a big part of that trap  is high barriers to imports. That benefits the wealthiest members of the thai economy who then got to invest their subsidized gains where  economies are freer.

[SunnyinBangrak]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

You really want to offer Thailand as a bastion of democracy? And the fact is that Thailand's economy has been stagnating for years. It's in what's called a middle income trap.And a big part of that trap  is high barriers to imports. That benefits the wealthiest members of the thai economy who then got to invest their subsidized gains where  economies are freer.

The point you studiously ignore, that I made very clearly is

Countries impose tariffs on imports to PROTECT AND BENEFIT LOCAL PRODUCERS AND THE ECONOMY. ie they are good, useful and of benefit.

Your narrative that Trumps tariffs on imports is a disaster for the US is clearly nonsensical seeing as every other country that imposes them benefits from them.

More free thinking required, stop parrotting democrat propaganda because it makes zero sense and is devoid of logic.

[cjinchiangrai]

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The point you studiously ignore, that I made very clearly is

Countries impose tariffs on imports to PROTECT AND BENEFIT LOCAL PRODUCERS AND THE ECONOMY. ie they are good, useful and of benefit.

Your narrative that Trumps tariffs on imports is a disaster for the US is clearly nonsensical seeing as every other country that imposes them benefits from them.

More free thinking required, stop parrotting democrat propaganda because it makes zero sense and is devoid of logic.

And when there are no local producers to protect? Now what?

[dutch boy]

7 hours ago, sharot724 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/is-trump-driving-the-us-into-a-recession-in-charts

Actually, it would be a good thing for the U.S. to enter a recession. This would finally break the rampant inflation in the United States. The Fed under Biden, was pressured by Biden to not raise interest rates too high as to cause a recession because Biden cared more about his socialist policies than about the America citizens. This unfortunately caused massive inflation in the U.S. But Trump is looking to the future of the U.S. and realizes that in the short run, government spending must come down. Government debt and the huge debt bomb will only be solved by a reduction in spending both by the government and by the private sector. 

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13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The point you studiously ignore, that I made very clearly is

Countries impose tariffs on imports to PROTECT AND BENEFIT LOCAL PRODUCERS AND THE ECONOMY. ie they are good, useful and of benefit.

Your narrative that Trumps tariffs on imports is a disaster for the US is clearly nonsensical seeing as every other country that imposes them benefits from them.

More free thinking required, stop parrotting democrat propaganda because it makes zero sense and is devoid of logic.

Because governments of these countries are such good and virtuous entities that the reason they impose these tariffs is for the benefit of their people? And not for the elites? You sound like a particularly naive socialist.

And what could be more nonsensical than your claim that countries benefit from tariffs. Mexico's economy was a shambles for years until it drastically lowered tariffs. And what about Argentina now?

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/argentina-milei-tackles-tariffs/

It's rare that somebody can get something so massively wrong. Congratulations!

There is a legitimate use of tariffs in limited cases to foster an emerging and promising economic sector. As China did with batteries and EVs and solar power. But once that sector is strong enough tariffs should be dismantled.

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3 minutes ago, dutch boy said:

Actually, it would be a good thing for the U.S. to enter a recession. This would finally break the rampant inflation in the United States. The Fed under Biden, was pressured by Biden to not raise interest rates too high as to cause a recession because Biden cared more about his socialist policies than about the America citizens. This unfortunately caused massive inflation in the U.S. But Trump is looking to the future of the U.S. and realizes that in the short run, government spending must come down. Government debt and the huge debt bomb will only be solved by a reduction in spending both by the government and by the private sector. 

And not only that, he also caused massive inflation in most of the world's economies because of...wait for it....MAGIC!

[mfd101]

It's not just about a tariffs war bringing to an end the free-market world of the last 40 years which, on the whole, made the whole world richer.

 

What we are beginning to see amongst Usofa's traditionally closest friends & allies - the Europeans, Oz, Japan ... - is a process just getting under way of disengaging from doing business with Usofa in important areas such as defence & security, on the basis that you can't trust the Yanks any more. Macron, for instance, is busy persuading the Europeans not to buy the F35 (which means switching to French or Swedish alternatives). The boycotting of Tesla products is another obvious example, with public outbreaks of contempt and anti-Usofanism.

 

This will continue gradually gathering speed. Short of major backtracking by Trump (not in his genes, I think), the long-term damage to the Usofan economy will be great indeed.