US Social Security

[Jingthing]

44 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I think it was in this YouTube video by a former SSA manager that stated you are allowed to have two addresses on your SSA record.  One for residence and one as a mailing address.  That was news to me.  I have no idea if that YouTuber is accurate.  I don't really care for his content that much and his presentation is mediocre at best.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WemXdHIcSsA

 

That is the wrong link....it's in this video by the same guy:

https://www.youtube.com/live/9h6VptUea90?si=nvAXEiZcf6i7-8gS

 

The key issue is whether you're telling SS that you live abroad or not. If you live abroad and you dont report that which is required to do you won't need to do the proof of life form. You  could also sign up for zip code based Medicare Advantage which can be used for emergency Medicare care abroad. Based on fraud. I would be shocked it Doge doesn't get to this issue. It's perfect for them. Being an expat isn't maga.

[Patong2021]

4 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

And yet the fraudulent and improper spending continued.

 

It was mostly Medicare and Medicaid  fraud. Taxpayers are losing more than $100 billion a year to Medicare and Medicaid fraud, according to estimates from the National Health Care Anti-Fraud Association.  It comes from companies who  invoice for undelivered goods and services, physicians charging  for nonexistant services, patients scamming the system for drugs which are resold for profit, pharmaceutical wholesalers and distributors  overcharging, and hospital systems over charging.

 

It was a fraud that was a direct result of neglect. The Inspector General was only allowed 450 inspectors to oversee $1.6+ Trillion in spending on 150 million beneficiaries. There were an inadequate number of inspectors. People convicted of fraud rarely went to jail and the crimes were rife with repeat offenders.

 

The solution from Doge was to fire the inspector general and to lay off  inspectors. How then do they intend to stop the fraud?

[scorecard]

On 3/23/2025 at 3:45 AM, kokesaat said:

FFT:  Back when I still lived in Thailand and became eligible for SSA, I was able to apply by phone through the US Embassy in Manila.  According to what I've read recently, the government is taking steps to make initial applying only in person.  Don't know if this will affect any of the younger expats living in Thailand, but it might be a thing to watch out for.

 

Similar for Australians,  you have to be physically in Australia on the day you apply (proven instantly by online 24/7 access to passport arrivals/departures data) but application can be lodge by mail.

 

also:

1). Applicant has to initially visit an office of that gov't agency to obtain a CRN (Client Reference Number).

2). Applicant has to personally visit the same agency office and officially prove their identity. 

[Hawaiian]

7 hours ago, riclag said:

Uh huh!

Rep Gary Palmer  went further to say its been goin on for decades!

He highlighted antiquated systems as a big issue!

Isn't SSA committing fraud by purposely making it difficult, and in some cases impossible, to apply for benefits?  This obstruction hasn't been around for decades.

Why replace antiquated systems with something that screws recipients?

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Isn't SSA committing fraud by purposely making it difficult, and in some cases impossible, to apply for benefits?  This obstruction hasn't been around for decades.

Why replace antiquated systems with something that screws recipients?

Because the doge goal is to save money to be used for tax cuts for oligarchs. Not serving the public.

[Hawaiian]

52 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Because the doge goal is to save money to be used for tax cuts for oligarchs. Not serving the public.

If this administration was serious about reducing the national debt they would be closing all the loopholes in the tax code.  It is a fallacy that tax cuts lead to increased revenues.

[riclag]

7 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Isn't SSA committing fraud by purposely making it difficult, and in some cases impossible, to apply for benefits?  This obstruction hasn't been around for decades.

Why replace antiquated systems with something that screws recipients?

Im not a SsA expert ! But …
The border czar just confirmed illegal 

newcomers are using these Social Security numbers, roll on the 2:20 time stamp.

 

[Hawaiian]

8 minutes ago, riclag said:

Im not a SsA expert ! But …
The border czar just confirmed illegal 

newcomers are using these Social Security numbers, roll on the 2:20 time stamp.

 

I no expert either.  But why is it necessary to punish recipients in order to curb fraud by illegals?  Surely there must be a better way.

[stevenl]

27 minutes ago, riclag said:

Im not a SsA expert ! But …
The border czar just confirmed illegal 

newcomers are using these Social Security numbers, roll on the 2:20 time stamp.

 

And that makes it true?

[riclag]

29 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

I no expert either.  But why is it necessary to punish recipients in order to curb fraud by illegals?  Surely there must be a better way.

Those are your words . Why was it necessary to leave the system vulnerable . Maybe I should sue the

Social Security Administration too. Have you ever had your Identity stolen and used fraudulently, I have.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaharziv/2025/03/21/massive-social-security-changes-begin-in-march--what-you-need-to-know/

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1 hour ago, riclag said:

Im not a SsA expert ! But …
The border czar just confirmed illegal 

newcomers are using these Social Security numbers, roll on the 2:20 time stamp.

 

One thing he doesn't say is that financially speaking, it works out to be a net plus for the US Treasury.

[riclag]

Why are illegals using social security numbers?

1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

I no expert either.  But why is it necessary to punish recipients in order to curb fraud by illegals?  Surely there must be a better way.

 

[jerrymahoney]

To the query above, have I ever had my data compromised -- No. But my SocSec number has been hacked even going back to the 2017 Equifax data breach.

Also, on my US Skype number I got a 3 AM call that told me my finances have been compromised and I gave my SS number before I could wake up. Scam however they were really only after a chump to buy a gift card to engage a 'fixer'.

However, I have never had credit agency reports of anyone creating new accounts or otherwise fraudulently using my data.

[cjinchiangrai]

On 3/24/2025 at 9:29 AM, Presnock said:

Just

 

I do hope that continues but with the current leadership ignoring legal means to do things,anything goes, the same with medicaide for VETs and in many cases are for a particular state.  If they go after medicaide then I wonder what the vets will do?

Trump wants them to die so he can grab the money. This is why they are going after health assistance so hard. If we are not working Trump wants us dead.

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Those are your words . Why was it necessary to leave the system vulnerable . Maybe I should sue the

Social Security Administration too. Have you ever had your Identity stolen and used fraudulently, I have.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaharziv/2025/03/21/massive-social-security-changes-begin-in-march--what-you-need-to-know/

What proof do you have that the system was vulnerable?  Hackers have breached some of the most sophisticated websites.  No one's information is completely secure.  AI will only make the situation worse.

[Hawaiian]

31 minutes ago, riclag said:

Why are illegals using social security numbers?

 

For various nefarious reasons like identity theft.  Did you not pay attention to Tom Homan?

[Yagoda]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The key issue is whether you're telling SS that you live abroad or not. If you live abroad and you dont report that which is required to do you won't need to do the proof of life form. You  could also sign up for zip code based Medicare Advantage which can be used for emergency Medicare care abroad. Based on fraud. I would be shocked it Doge doesn't get to this issue. It's perfect for them. Being an expat isn't maga.

I believe in  MAGA, get my SS deposited into a US bank and have access to my account via the net. I dont know many MAGA loving expats who have problems. 

[riclag]

11 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

For various nefarious reasons like identity theft.  Did you not pay attention to Tom Homan?

Its worth repeating , thanks

 

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17 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

For various nefarious reasons like identity theft.  Did you not pay attention to Tom Homan?

They're stealing SS numbers so that they can work. And they can't claim benefits. Which means that the system actually profits from their improper use.

[riclag]

47 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I believe in  MAGA, get my SS deposited into a US bank and have access to my account via the net. I dont know many MAGA loving expats who have problems. 

So far so good except for the law suits

against thrid parties entrusted with the database of Millions during the Biden administration! How can somebody trust  anything involving accountability with so many phishing schemes out there.
 

“The company said it would be reaching out to all of the affected users “so that you can take action which will assist to minimize or eliminate potential harm.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/national-public-data-admits-hackers-140435848.html

 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_National_Public_Data_breach

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_National_Public_Data_breach