Angela Rayner’s Islamophobia Definition Could Extend to Non-Muslims

[mogandave]

Europe is doomed to be under Sharia law inside of 50 years max. Can you still get pork in a school lunch? 

 

What is the Muslim population now, and how many truly assimilate?

 

What is the non-Muslim European birthrate vs the Muslim birthrate? 

 

So many victims, so little time. 

[zmisha]

13 hours ago, proton said:

It will probably be illegal to state the prophet married 6 year old Aisha and then raped her when she was 9 and other uncomfortable facts stated in their own scriptures-

Hard times require hard measures. 
In a situation where the prophet had to solve the most complex demographic problems of the state, he made a difficult decision.
European women do not want to give birth to more than one child. Therefore, today, Muslims in Europe make difficult decisions fighting the most severe depopulation.

[BusyB]

4 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I suspect history is not your strong point, but mass migration in Britain started in earnest in the post-war years and without it the country would have never have fully recovered after World War 2.  Migration was actively encouraged by all parties to re-build the economy.

 

You might also be unfamiliar with Britain's role in colonising half the world!  As Britain decolonized in Africa, the Caribbean, and Asia, many people with British citizenship or ties to the UK migrated for better economic opportunities or to escape instability.  Maybe some disapproved but I'm sure they hadn't disapproved of the colonisation and the Empire.

 

Now admittedly the next wave in 2004 after EU expansion might not have been approved by all; and ended up with Brexit.  However, migration since Brexit has not declined much!

 

Anyway, I hope this helps.

 

It won't. Sadly.

[merck]

7 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I suspect history is not your strong point, but mass migration in Britain started in earnest in the post-war years and without it the country would have never have fully recovered after World War 2.  Migration was actively encouraged by all parties to re-build the economy.

 

You might also be unfamiliar with Britain's role in colonising half the world!  As Britain decolonized in Africa, the Caribbean, and Asia, many people with British citizenship or ties to the UK migrated for better economic opportunities or to escape instability.  Maybe some disapproved but I'm sure they hadn't disapproved of the colonisation and the Empire.

 

Now admittedly the next wave in 2004 after EU expansion might not have been approved by all; and ended up with Brexit.  However, migration since Brexit has not declined much!

 

Anyway, I hope this helps.

If labour was so in demand in Britain after WW2 to 'rebuild the economy' as you say, why were over 200K Brits (some sources eg Wikipedia say 1 million) encouraged to emigrate to Australia between 1945 and 1972 - the so-called '£10 POMs'?

[GanDoonToonPet]

2010 gave us the (final) abollition of the Christian blasphemy laws and the Equality Act with the following protected characteristics:

 

- age

- disability

- gender reassignment

- marriage and civil partnership

- pregnancy and maternity

- race

- religion or belief

- sex

- sexual orientation

 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/4

 

2020 gave us Section 66 of the Sentencing Act which states that judges must consider 'hostility towards' the following groups as an aggravating factor:

 

- race

- religion

- disability

- sexual orientation

- transgender identity

 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2020/17/section/66

 

Now here's where things take a dark turn. Currently working its way through parliament is the Hate Crime (Misogyny) Bill which states that judges must consider 'hostility towards' the following groups as an aggravating factor::

 

- women

 

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3072

 

Now we're on the verge of introducing an Islamic blasphemy law. We seem to be moving from legislation that protects everyone to legislation that protects only very specific groups or specific sub-groups.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

23 hours ago, Social Media said:

The report, adopted by the Labour Party, defined Islamophobia as “rooted in racism” and described it as “a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness.”

Where do they find these clowns? Islam has zero to do with race.

 

The world is burning, Britain is broken and rotating down the pipe, and the numpties are debating a definition of Islam ( I refuse to regard Muslimness as a valid word ). Is Rayner a modern Nero, fiddling as Britain burns?

[Eloquent pilgrim]

21 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It doesn’t take a lot of thought to work out why this is correct.

 

Bigots are usually dullards, plenty of examples demonstrate that to be so.

 

If a bigot who hates Muslims violently attacks a Jew in the mistaken belief they are a Muslim then the motivation for the attack is Islamophobia.

 

Bigots aren’t the brightest of folk, they are almost always blinded to reality by their own hatred.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is typical of left wing shallow thinkers, for whom the recently invented word “Islamophobia” is a heaven sent tool for censoring, or better still, shutting down, any criticism of Islam. When not mobilising the word to silence critics of Islam, as we see from yourself, you resort to calling critics, bigots or dullards.

 

Below is a truncated list of reasons to fear, without any phobia whatsoever, the violent, medieval, misogynistic, homophobic religious culture of Islam; all of these atrocities and slaughterings of innocent people were carried out by adherents to Islam.

 

9/11 USA 2,996 dead 25,000 + injured

7/7  London bombs 52 dead 784 injured

2017 London Bridge, 8 killed 48 injured

2017 Barcelona, driver mows down 100 people, 14 dead 130 injured.

2022 Manchester concert bomb, 22 dead 119 injured

2015 Charlie Hebbo 12 dead

2019 London Bridge 2 dead 3 injured

2020 France stabbing and beheading 3 dead

2020 Samuel Paty, French teacher beheaded in the street

2015 Bataclan, Paris 130 dead 350 wounded

2015 Nice, France, truck rampage 86 dead 434 injured

2023 Arras France .. teacher stabbed to death

2016 Rouen France 85 year old priest has throat slit at alter of church

2023 Brussels, 2 Swedish football fans shot dead

2018 Carcassonne France 5 dead 15 injured

2024 Crocus hall Moscow: 140 dead 300 injured

2023 7th October Israel: 1,195 Killed 250 taken hostage.

2025 Feb 13: Car ramming, 37 injured 2 killed.

 

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

This is typical of left wing shallow thinkers, for whom the recently invented word “Islamophobia” is a heaven sent tool for censoring, or better still, shutting down, any criticism of Islam. When not mobilising the word to silence critics of Islam, as we see from yourself, you resort to calling critics, bigots or dullards.

 

Below is a truncated list of reasons to fear, without any phobia whatsoever, the violent, medieval, misogynistic, homophobic religious culture of Islam; all of these atrocities and slaughterings of innocent people were carried out by adherents to Islam.

 

9/11 USA 2,996 dead 25,000 + injured

7/7  London bombs 52 dead 784 injured

2017 London Bridge, 8 killed 48 injured

2017 Barcelona, driver mows down 100 people, 14 dead 130 injured.

2022 Manchester concert bomb, 22 dead 119 injured

2015 Charlie Hebbo 12 dead

2019 London Bridge 2 dead 3 injured

2020 France stabbing and beheading 3 dead

2020 Samuel Paty, French teacher beheaded in the street

2015 Bataclan, Paris 130 dead 350 wounded

2015 Nice, France, truck rampage 86 dead 434 injured

2023 Arras France .. teacher stabbed to death

2016 Rouen France 85 year old priest has throat slit at alter of church

2023 Brussels, 2 Swedish football fans shot dead

2018 Carcassonne France 5 dead 15 injured

2024 Crocus hall Moscow: 140 dead 300 injured

2023 7th October Israel: 1,195 Killed 250 taken hostage.

2025 Feb 13: Car ramming, 37 injured 2 killed.

 

 

 

 

Try reading my post you responded to again and address the point I made.

 

Rather than imagining I said something you think you can deal with.

 

Give it go.

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Try reading my post you responded to again and address the point I made.

 

Rather than imagining I said something you think you can deal with.

 

Give it go.

 

 

It seems that you have nothing to say at all about the hundreds of terrorist attacks and thousands, upon thousands of innocent people slaughtered by adherents to Islam; a religious cult that you continually defend from any criticism … you appear to have no shame.

 

 

[mikeymike100]

12 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Were we asked if we approved of mass migration? No.

 

Where was your democracy then?

Exactly, there was no vote on this migration! or maybe should be invasion!!

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

2010 gave us the (final) abollition of the Christian blasphemy laws and the Equality Act with the following protected characteristics:

 

- age

- disability

- gender reassignment

- marriage and civil partnership

- pregnancy and maternity

- race

- religion or belief

- sex

- sexual orientation

 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/4

 

2020 gave us Section 66 of the Sentencing Act which states that judges must consider 'hostility towards' the following groups as an aggravating factor:

 

- race

- religion

- disability

- sexual orientation

- transgender identity

 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2020/17/section/66

 

Now here's where things take a dark turn. Currently working its way through parliament is the Hate Crime (Misogyny) Bill which states that judges must consider 'hostility towards' the following groups as an aggravating factor::

 

- women

 

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3072

 

Now we're on the verge of introducing an Islamic blasphemy law. We seem to be moving from legislation that protects everyone to legislation that protects only very specific groups or specific sub-groups.

 

 Nobody is introducing an ‘Islamic blasphemy law’.

 

 

 

 

 

[mikeymike100]

3 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

This is typical of left wing shallow thinkers, for whom the recently invented word “Islamophobia” is a heaven sent tool for censoring, or better still, shutting down, any criticism of Islam. When not mobilising the word to silence critics of Islam, as we see from yourself, you resort to calling critics, bigots or dullards.

 

Below is a truncated list of reasons to fear, without any phobia whatsoever, the violent, medieval, misogynistic, homophobic religious culture of Islam; all of these atrocities and slaughterings of innocent people were carried out by adherents to Islam.

 

9/11 USA 2,996 dead 25,000 + injured

7/7  London bombs 52 dead 784 injured

2017 London Bridge, 8 killed 48 injured

2017 Barcelona, driver mows down 100 people, 14 dead 130 injured.

2022 Manchester concert bomb, 22 dead 119 injured

2015 Charlie Hebbo 12 dead

2019 London Bridge 2 dead 3 injured

2020 France stabbing and beheading 3 dead

2020 Samuel Paty, French teacher beheaded in the street

2015 Bataclan, Paris 130 dead 350 wounded

2015 Nice, France, truck rampage 86 dead 434 injured

2023 Arras France .. teacher stabbed to death

2016 Rouen France 85 year old priest has throat slit at alter of church

2023 Brussels, 2 Swedish football fans shot dead

2018 Carcassonne France 5 dead 15 injured

2024 Crocus hall Moscow: 140 dead 300 injured

2023 7th October Israel: 1,195 Killed 250 taken hostage.

2025 Feb 13: Car ramming, 37 injured 2 killed.

 

 

 

 

Absolutely,   there are more terrorists associated with Islamic groups than any other religious sect globally. Research from sources like the Global Terrorism Database and reports from Fondapol indicate that Islamist terrorist organizations, such as ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, and the Taliban, etc, account for a significant majority of terrorist attacks and fatalities worldwide. For instance, Fondapol’s analysis from 1979 to April 2024 documented at least 48,035 Islamist terrorist attacks, resulting in over 210,138 deaths, with these groups responsible for a disproportionate share of global terrorism victims—over 80% according to some estimates. The Global Terrorism Index also consistently highlights that the deadliest terrorist groups in recent years are predominantly Islamist, with groups like ISIS and Boko Haram leading in attack frequency and lethality!!!

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

It seems that you have nothing to say at all about the hundreds of terrorist attacks and thousands, upon thousands of innocent people slaughtered by adherents to Islam; a religious cult that you continually defend from any criticism … you appear to have no shame.

 

 

Because…. Brace yourself, the topic of discussion is:

 

“Angela Rayner’s Islamophobia Definition Could Extend to Non-Muslims“

[Bkk Brian]

"These concerns have been brought into sharp focus in the past week because the APPG report gives the example of ‘grooming gangs’ as a ‘subtle form of anti-Muslim racism’. "

 

This is how it all started and what its really about.

 

‘Islamophobia’ and the grooming gangs scandal

At PMQs this week, Kemi Badenoch told MPs that Labour’s adoption of the All Party Parliamentary Group on British Muslim’s definition of ‘Islamophobia’ has inhibited public discussion of rape gangs. She pointed out that, according to this definition, anyone who draws attention to the over-representation of Muslims in the grooming gangs is guilty of Islamophobia. This, she argued, is why some members of the Parliamentary Labour Party have been ‘scared to tell the truth’. She’s right, but the problem runs deeper than that.

https://archive.ph/3C0aO

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/islamophobia-and-the-grooming-gangs-scandal/

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

35 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Because…. Brace yourself, the topic of discussion is:

 

“Angela Rayner’s Islamophobia Definition Could Extend to Non-Muslims“

 

Indeed it is, which encompasses discussions about Islam, and the reasons that people may fear it, or otherwise; unfortunately for yourself, you do not get to put limitations on how far the discussion can be expanded whilst still remaining on topic.

 

I know that you get traumatised every time that someone criticises anything at all about Islam; be it Islamic terrorism, the Islamic predilection for misogyny, homophobia, female genital mutilation, inter-cousin marriage, honour killings or any other such vile practices; but try as you may, you don’t have the right to shut down the conversation, so you will just have to continue deflecting and keeping your nut submerged in the sands of denial.

 

 

 

[mogandave]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Where do they find these clowns? Islam has zero to do with race.

 

The world is burning, Britain is broken and rotating down the pipe, and the numpties are debating a definition of Islam ( I refuse to regard Muslimness as a valid word ). Is Rayner a modern Nero, fiddling as Britain burns?

I’m sorry, and correct me if I am wrong, but was Briton almost single-handedly responsible for the eradication of the international slave trade? 

 

British common law done more for human rights the world over than every politician that has ever lived, combined. 

[Photoguy21]

They are trying to appease Muslims as they think they will get their backing in elections. Unfortunately they fail to realise not all Muslims are peace loving. Rayner is a disaster anyway so I guess you wouldnt expect anything less from her. What will she do after she has had the court convicts her of ignoring parliamentary procedure?

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Indeed it is, which encompasses discussions about Islam, and the reasons that people may fear it, or otherwise; unfortunately for yourself, you do not get to put limitations on how far the discussion can be expanded whilst still remaining on topic.

 

I know that you get traumatised every time that someone criticises anything at all about Islam; be it Islamic terrorism, the Islamic predilection for misogyny, homophobia, female genital mutilation, inter-cousin marriage, honour killings or any other such vile practices; but try as you may, you don’t have the right to shut down the conversation, so you will just have to continue deflecting and keeping your nut submerged in the sands of denial.

 

 

 

Actually the title and the OP are non of those things.

 

But I do understand you can’t help peddling fear and hatred.

 

 

[brewsterbudgen]

1 hour ago, Photoguy21 said:

They are trying to appease Muslims as they think they will get their backing in elections. Unfortunately they fail to realise not all Muslims are peace loving. Rayner is a disaster anyway so I guess you wouldnt expect anything less from her. What will she do after she has had the court convicts her of ignoring parliamentary procedure?

 

I doubt many Muslims will return to Labour before the next election.  George Galloway has their votes sewn up!

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, mogandave said:

I’m sorry, and correct me if I am wrong, but was Briton almost single-handedly responsible for the eradication of the international slave trade? 

 

British common law done more for human rights the world over than every politician that has ever lived, combined. 

I do not disagree with the above, but it has nothing to do with my quote that you used.

[Photoguy21]

20 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

I doubt many Muslims will return to Labour before the next election.  George Galloway has their votes sewn up!

A lot will as they see the Labour party as easy to control.

[brewsterbudgen]

1 hour ago, Photoguy21 said:

A lot will as they see the Labour party as easy to control.

Hopefully.

[Photoguy21]

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

Hopefully.

We do not want radical Islam in the UK. I know many Brits think it wont be a problem but they have never really seen Islam in its full form. I have seen it having spent over 15 years in the Middle East and the UK or Europe does not want it.