genobkk Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Just asking for a friend….. Do we need to show onward ticket while entering Thailand through a land border? I know this used to be a requirement when traveling by air , not so much from immigration at the airport but being refused boarding by the airline I don’t recall this being an issue at land boarders. Western passport holder not ASEAN if that matters thanks in advance
DrJack54 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 OP, in recent times that has been requested. To be clear you are asking about border bounce. Where? Laos or Cambodia. Bounce from where? Location in Thailand. Advisable to use agent border run company. Best to post name of crossing
genobkk Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: OP, in recent times that has been requested. To be clear you are asking about border bounce. Where? Laos or Cambodia. Bounce from where? Location in Thailand. Advisable to use agent border run company. Best to post name of crossing From Cambodia. Poipet. Not a border bounce he is living in Cambodia .
DrJack54 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, genobkk said: From Cambodia. Poipet. Not a border bounce he is living in Cambodia . It's not a border bounce so flight ticket should not even be mentioned. My first post was typing about border bounce from Thailand to border.. Often folk hoping to do that same day.. The situation you describe is very different. Normally i would advise against Poi Pet however current thread in "visas to other countries".... The OP had no issue in entering Thailand from Cambodia at Poi Pet.
Upnotover Posted March 26 Posted March 26 https://aseannow.com/topic/1355585-border-run-report-cambodia-to-thailand-and-back/
genobkk Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 8 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: It's not a border bounce so flight ticket should not even be mentioned. My first post was typing about border bounce from Thailand to border.. Often folk hoping to do that same day.. The situation you describe is very different. Normally i would advise against Poi Pet however current thread in "visas to other countries".... The OP had no issue in entering Thailand from Cambodia at Poi Pet. but certainly it would be ask from the airline if flying. The point is making for a flexible trip of a few weeks. At first he wanted to fly in and use land border going back but I mentioned the airline requirements of showing onward ticket while entering. Airlines can’t change ticket or anything so the land border seemed. more flexible
DrJack54 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 16 minutes ago, genobkk said: At first he wanted to fly in and use land border going back but I mentioned the airline requirements of showing onward ticket while entering. Airlines can’t change ticket or anything so the land border seemed. more flexible If it's for few weeks why not fly both ways. To Thailand and back to Cambodia. Why back via land border. For folk that are flying one way the airline at departure will/may require onward flight. Some folks use rent a ticket. Companies such as, "onwardticket.com"
genobkk Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 17 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: If it's for few weeks why not fly both ways. To Thailand and back to Cambodia. Why back via land border. For folk that are flying one way the airline at departure will/may require onward flight. Some folks use rent a ticket. Companies such as, "onwardticket.com" It’s about flexibility, being able stay a few days longer, etc. for this short journey AirAsia wants 6,000 THB plus round trip before adding any baggage allowance so it becomes 7,000 to 8,000 Putting it in perspective a trip to Hanoi or KL cost the same or even less. Certainly might consider the flight in and border out for flexibility using website mentioned. Just wanted to make sure they didn’t ask for onward ticket details at the border incase that was decided
cjinchiangrai Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Maybe. The requirements are the same at the border and the airport. 1
DrJack54 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, genobkk said: for this short journey AirAsia wants 6,000 THB plus round trip before adding any baggage allowance so it becomes 7,000 to 8,000 I didn't get anything like that. Anyway he can sort it out. Depending where he is located in Cambodia personally wouldn't even consider holiday using land travel.
Saigon Posted March 26 Posted March 26 When I went back to Thailand by land via Chong Mek last month after spending more than 4 months in Vietnam, a female officer first asked me if I had booked a flight ticket back to my 'home country' from Thailand yet and I answered no to the question, adding that I'd go back to Vietnam again by land, and that officer asked me if I had booked a room to stay in Thailand yet but I answered no to that question, either and then that officer told me to book a room and show her the booking confirmation on the spot! I wouldn't think that kind of thing would happen to everybody, but maybe you should get ready for that because anything could happend at some of the Thai land crossings recently. Good luck! 1
genobkk Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 1 hour ago, DrJack54 said: I didn't get anything like that. Anyway he can sort it out. Depending where he is located in Cambodia personally wouldn't even consider holiday using land travel. 3 or 4 hours from the Poi Pet border flying would require an hours drive to nearest airport so I see his point
genobkk Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 15 minutes ago, Saigon said: When I went back to Thailand by land via Chong Mek last month after spending more than 4 months in Vietnam, a female officer first asked me if I had booked a flight ticket back to my 'home country' from Thailand yet and I answered no to the question, adding that I'd go back to Vietnam again by land, and that officer asked me if I had booked a room to stay in Thailand yet but I answered no to that question, either and then that officer told me to book a room and show her the booking confirmation on the spot! I wouldn't think that kind of thing would happen to everybody, but maybe you should get ready for that because anything could happend at some of the Thai land crossings recently. Good luck! This is a big issue when crossing the border by land into Thailand for expats living in neighboring countries.. Poi Pet border certainly has a bad reputation, but generally that was on the Cambodian side Female immigration officers in Thailand are certainly more aggressive and picky. I whiteness some very bad behavior from a Thai female immigration officer at DM airport once, then of course I had her next and she gave me all kinds of attitude about not having Moo Ban in the address or something. It’s a townhouse not in a Moo Ban. Anyway thanks for the information
DrJack54 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 11 minutes ago, genobkk said: 3 or 4 hours from the Poi Pet border flying would require an hours drive to nearest airport so I see his point I don't. So 4 hrs to Poi Pet for a holiday of few weeks. Then where to after entering Thailand. Nevermind
Serenity_Now Posted March 26 Posted March 26 I use Thai Railways book a ticket Hat Yai to Pedang Besar approx 347 Baht The 50 baht train can only be booked 2 hrs in advance but you can always get a refund on the ticket or ticket change date too,. Works just the same as flight tickets For Malaysia i use a Singapore bus ticket average $15/20 Everytime coming from Indonesia to Malaysia the airlines insist on some sort of onward ticket. They also cannot check if your airline tickets are real they can only look at the time and date flight number and see if such a flight exists. Only USA has access to Passenger details from airlines Though I am uncertain if that is changing with the digitization of entry i.e. ESTA Electronic travel Authorisation. Indonesia and Malaysia already have this process good thing about Malaysia is AUTOGATE no need to speak with Immigration Same Indonesia Jakarta autogates.
genobkk Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: I don't. So 4 hrs to Poi Pet for a holiday of few weeks. Then where to after entering Thailand. Nevermind 1 hr drive to airport, arriving 2 hrs before international flight, so 3 hrs, then 1 hr flight 4 hrs. 1 hr in Bangkok to get bags and clear immigration 5 hrs another 1hr into town 6 hrs. If he takes a bus 7 or 8 hrs. including border crossing time. Airlines can not change tickets and must pay for bags total cost 8k or more. VIP bus is cheap and can buy last minute. Anyway I am not here to argue about it, I just was looking for information about border crossing and if an onward ticket from Thailand is required to enter 1
genobkk Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 10 minutes ago, Serenity_Now said: I use Thai Railways book a ticket Hat Yai to Pedang Besar approx 347 Baht The 50 baht train can only be booked 2 hrs in advance but you can always get a refund on the ticket or ticket change date too,. Works just the same as flight tickets For Malaysia i use a Singapore bus ticket average $15/20 Everytime coming from Indonesia to Malaysia the airlines insist on some sort of onward ticket. They also cannot check if your airline tickets are real they can only look at the time and date flight number and see if such a flight exists. Only USA has access to Passenger details from airlines Though I am uncertain if that is changing with the digitization of entry i.e. ESTA Electronic travel Authorisation. Indonesia and Malaysia already have this process good thing about Malaysia is AUTOGATE no need to speak with Immigration Same Indonesia Jakarta autogates. Great. This is a great option with the train. Thanks for the idea. Can show the ticket on the train app as well. Brilliant idea.
Serenity_Now Posted March 26 Posted March 26 31 minutes ago, genobkk said: Great. This is a great option with the train. Thanks for the idea. Can show the ticket on the train app as well. Brilliant idea. They have an app? I used laptop got a pdf ticket emailed but yes no need to print for train if its on your phone GOT TO SAY I would not install a Thai app on my phone as it has my banking app. Thai rail site used to be really bad and hacked to hell Its not so bad now though Plus I use prompt payment I dont use my cards on such sites For that i use malaysia touch n go app
genobkk Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 38 minutes ago, Serenity_Now said: They have an app? I used laptop got a pdf ticket emailed but yes no need to print for train if its on your phone GOT TO SAY I would not install a Thai app on my phone as it has my banking app. Thai rail site used to be really bad and hacked to hell Its not so bad now though Plus I use prompt payment I dont use my cards on such sites For that i use malaysia touch n go app Yes, they have an app. It’s great. I have used it several times to book tickets. It’s directly from the SRT, not a third party app. Sorry I don’t recall the name of the app. My phone is charging
Scouse123 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I go regularly to Cambodia, it's not an issue for me as I have a retirement extension. This month, I took my son and his mother, (who were both holidaying here from the UK) to Cambodia for three nights along with my Thai partner through Chong Chom/ O Smash border crossing. Nobody was asked on our return to Thailand through the land border anything relating to flight tickets or onward travel.
Scouse123 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 It takes me 4.5 hours from Kalasin to Chong Chom. It is about 30 minutes crossing the border. Free luggage allowance. Likewise, it then takes 2.5 hours to Siem Reap. Total is 7.5 hours. If I was to fly, it is one hour to ROI Et airport from my home, arriving an hour before, plus luggage fees. I then fly an hour to Bangkok, then more often than not, a bus to the terminal. Faffing around another 20 minutes. There I collect luggage in about another 20 minutes. Then I must make my way to international departures and clear immigration, ensuring I am two hours at least before the flight. It never works that way for connections, I am usually waiting 4–5 hours for connecting flight to Siem Reap, flight time to Siem Reap is another 1 hour. Then I clear Cambodian immigration and collect luggage, at least another 35–45 minutes. Then it's another hour in a taxi to Siem Reap. Total 10 or 11 hours messing about, then the same farce on return flights. And it's more expensive. That's why we drive. 1
Nid_Noi Posted March 27 Posted March 27 22 hours ago, genobkk said: Just asking for a friend….. Do we need to show onward ticket while entering Thailand through a land border? I know this used to be a requirement when traveling by air , not so much from immigration at the airport but being refused boarding by the airline I don’t recall this being an issue at land boarders. Western passport holder not ASEAN if that matters thanks in advance Entering Thailand (Ranong) coming from Kawthung (Myanmar) mid-December 2024, I was asked to show an onward ticket even with a visa expiring mid- April 2025. Never been asked before at land, sea port or airport of entry. Depends on the mood of the IO. Sometimes they are “chatty” and find any excuse for conversation.
Yagoda Posted March 27 Posted March 27 On my last crossing into Thailand via Poipet/Aranyaphrathet (US Passport, 30 plus years of entries and exits, prior retirement visa in Thailand, present retirement extension in Cambodia) I was not asked. On my 2 or 3 Aranyaphrathet entries last year, I was not asked. In fact in my entire life I have never been asked for an outward ticket by anyone other than Airline staff in the USA, and once on Air Asia when I was operating on Visa exempts. Long term Visas satisfy the airlines. My kid was asked once at DMK Immigration on her first trip in and she looked like a bum. She had an outward ticket though My friend from SA with a Cambodian Tourist Visa expiring that day was not asked in Aranyaphrathet, but she had at outward ticket back to Cambodia. She had one older Tourist Visa entry and exit. When I was operating Visa exempt and needed a ticket (other than a real return), I would drop $50 on a ticket for something like Hat Yai to KL. 1
genobkk Posted March 27 Author Posted March 27 4 hours ago, Scouse123 said: I go regularly to Cambodia, it's not an issue for me as I have a retirement extension. This month, I took my son and his mother, (who were both holidaying here from the UK) to Cambodia for three nights along with my Thai partner through Chong Chom/ O Smash border crossing. Nobody was asked on our return to Thailand through the land border anything relating to flight tickets or onward travel. Great. That border crossing is known to be more relaxed than the mess at Poi Pet thanks for the report 2
genobkk Posted March 27 Author Posted March 27 26 minutes ago, Yagoda said: On my last crossing into Thailand via Poipet/Aranyaphrathet (US Passport, 30 plus years of entries and exits, prior retirement visa in Thailand, present retirement extension in Cambodia) I was not asked. On my 2 or 3 Aranyaphrathet entries last year, I was not asked. In fact in my entire life I have never been asked for an outward ticket by anyone other than Airline staff in the USA, and once on Air Asia when I was operating on Visa exempts. Long term Visas satisfy the airlines. My kid was asked once at DMK Immigration on her first trip in and she looked like a bum. She had an outward ticket though My friend from SA with a Cambodian Tourist Visa expiring that day was not asked in Aranyaphrathet, but she had at outward ticket back to Cambodia. She had one older Tourist Visa entry and exit. When I was operating Visa exempt and needed a ticket (other than a real return), I would drop $50 on a ticket for something like Hat Yai to KL. Thank you for the report. My friend is in the exact same category as you having a 1 year retirement visa in Cambodia and had the same for Thailand
Yagoda Posted March 27 Posted March 27 16 minutes ago, genobkk said: Thank you for the report. My friend is in the exact same category as you having a 1 year retirement visa in Cambodia and had the same for Thailand Poipet is fine and more convenient to go to BKK 1
Burma Bill Posted March 27 Posted March 27 On 3/26/2025 at 2:16 PM, genobkk said: On 3/26/2025 at 2:11 PM, DrJack54 said: OP, in recent times that has been requested. To be clear you are asking about border bounce. Where? Laos or Cambodia. Bounce from where? Location in Thailand. Advisable to use agent border run company. Best to post name of crossing From Cambodia. Poipet. Not a border bounce he is living in Cambodia . I live in Siem Reap in Cambodia and I try to avoid the crossing from Poipet as it can be horrendous. Cambodian Immigration is usually easy BUT Thai Immigration in Aranyaphratet is dreadful. I had to queue for almost 4 hours at my last visit. If travelling by car, I now use two convenient, easy and quick land border crossings in the north of Cambodia:- O Smach, Samraong Municipality, Cambodia to Chong Chom, Surin Province, Thailand. Choam, Anlong Veng District Cambodia to Chong Sa- Ngam, Sisaket Province, Thailand Please note, at both of these crossings you have to complete a Form T6 to enter Thailand and an Arrival/Departure card to enter Cambodia. 1 1
Scouse123 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 14 minutes ago, Burma Bill said: I live in Siem Reap in Cambodia and I try to avoid the crossing from Poipet as it can be horrendous. Cambodian Immigration is usually easy BUT Thai Immigration in Aranyaphratet is dreadful. I had to queue for almost 4 hours at my last visit. If travelling by car, I now use two convenient, easy and quick land border crossings in the north of Cambodia:- O Smach, Samraong Municipality, Cambodia to Chong Chom, Surin Province, Thailand. Choam, Anlong Veng District Cambodia to Chong Sa- Ngam, Sisaket Province, Thailand Please note, at both of these crossings you have to complete a Form T6 to enter Thailand and an Arrival/Departure card to enter Cambodia. I would do ten arrival cards to avoid Poipet, I hate the WAY OFFICIALS OPERATE in the place. I once booked a cab to take me to Siem Reap from Poipet. This smart ass pretending he was helping to try to direct and show me how to obtain a visa, and I duly informed him I had one. He then asked about transport, I foolishly told him I had booked it already. Then a desk with women dressed as nurses pretending to check for fever and charging us a fee. This guy with some kind of tourist assistant badge then went over and whispered in this Cambodian immigration guy's ear and all hell broke loose. I was told that I must take a bus to a pickup point some twenty minutes away and get a car from ' their official ' pick up point, where taxis were scandalously high in price. We eventually had to pay a bribe of $20 to use the taxi we had booked. Coming back was no better on the Thai side, it was nearly 2.5 hours in the immigration queue at Aranyaprathet with surly, rude Thai Immigration staff. NEVER AGAIN. 1 1
zzzzz Posted March 27 Posted March 27 On 3/26/2025 at 4:19 PM, DrJack54 said: I didn't get anything like that. Anyway he can sort it out. Depending where he is located in Cambodia personally wouldn't even consider holiday using land travel. why not? I love road trips thru SE Asia living in SR its less than 2 hours to the Osmach thai border < ( makes no sense if ur in PP ) living in Vientiane , crossing for shopping living in northern Malaysia , same 1
Yagoda Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Scouse123 said: I would do ten arrival cards to avoid Poipet, I hate the WAY OFFICIALS OPERATE in the place. I once booked a cab to take me to Siem Reap from Poipet. This smart ass pretending he was helping to try to direct and show me how to obtain a visa, and I duly informed him I had one. He then asked about transport, I foolishly told him I had booked it already. Then a desk with women dressed as nurses pretending to check for fever and charging us a fee. This guy with some kind of tourist assistant badge then went over and whispered in this Cambodian immigration guy's ear and all hell broke loose. I was told that I must take a bus to a pickup point some twenty minutes away and get a car from ' their official ' pick up point, where taxis were scandalously high in price. We eventually had to pay a bribe of $20 to use the taxi we had booked. Coming back was no better on the Thai side, it was nearly 2.5 hours in the immigration queue at Aranyaprathet with surly, rude Thai Immigration staff. NEVER AGAIN. Sounds like the touts got you LOL They are annoying 1
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