if one is at poverty level income in america , will a thai woman accept him as a husband in

[camper star]

1 minute ago, simon43 said:

Additionally, assume that there is a 'true' woman out there in Thailand who meets your dream, how are you going to find her? You can spend a lot of money, time and stress trying to locate such a woman.  Do you expect her to speak English?  If she is competent in speaking English, then I would say that she is either well-educated, (and probably won't give you the time of day when she learns of your financial situation).  Or she is an ex (or current) bar-girl, with all the mental problems that come with that profession and a greedy attitude towards your money for her and her family.

 

Come and retire in Thailand or Laos or Cambodia.  But don't do it on the assumption that your sweetheart is out there somewhere.

Thank you.

As an Air Force person who has live here in Asia on and off since the Viet Nam War, I still don't understand Asian women. 

[ravip]

2 hours ago, worgeordie said:

If your poor , look for a rich woman here , that's what you need to do,

if your hansom and well hung ,it might just  work out for you, good luck

 

regards worgeordie

 

If your poor , look for a rich woman here , that's what you need to do,

 

Why not find a rich woman in the US itself?

If this is the main reason for foreigners to come to Thailand and get married, well... super quality indeed!

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, camper star said:

Thank you.

I wonder what other Americans with such dreams of living and marring a Thai country girl that their family lives off the land with very little money. 

Will a warm and gentle smile tell you the truth of such of true-love connection in their future 

In a 'country girl scenario', I very much doubt there will be much love on her part for an old man with little money. If the guys 20- 40 ish maybe different

[camper star]

6 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Additionally, assume that there is a 'true' woman out there in Thailand who meets your dream, how are you going to find her? You can spend a lot of money, time and stress trying to locate such a woman.  Do you expect her to speak English?  If she is competent in speaking English, then I would say that she is either well-educated, (and probably won't give you the time of day when she learns of your financial situation).  Or she is an ex (or current) bar-girl, with all the mental problems that come with that profession and a greedy attitude towards your money for her and her family.

 

Come and retire in Thailand or Laos or Cambodia.  But don't do it on the assumption that your sweetheart is out there somewhere.

Those are well words spoken.  The "mental problems of women are of great or should be of great concern." Do you have any red flags i should look out for. thanks

[simon43]

5 minutes ago, camper star said:

Those are well words spoken.  The "mental problems of women are of great or should be of great concern." Do you have any red flags i should look out for. thanks

If she is anything like my mad ex #2, look in her handbag for a piece of paper that says (in English) "I am not mad"

 

That was a big red flag for me lol....

[Maxbkkcm]

2 hours ago, worgeordie said:

If your poor , look for a rich woman here , that's what you need to do,

if your hansom and well hung ,it might just  work out for you, good luck

 

regards worgeordie

 

Where would you meet that woman in bkk? 

[camper star]

So it it possible to help and fall in love with a lady that has lived in a bambo hut all her life and had chickens and other animals in yard and lived off the land with little govt help.

[fredwiggy]

22 minutes ago, camper star said:

So it it possible to help and fall in love with a lady that has lived in a bambo hut all her life and had chickens and other animals in yard and lived off the land with little govt help.

Attraction isn't a choice. The best indication of a good woman is seeing the relationship she has with her father. Other than that it takes a lot of time.

[SMIAI]

There is some terrific nonsense being written here. TBH, I'm not sure the OP is 'real' either.

All this describing women in absolutes, even a scientist came out with this;

 

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Or she is an ex (or current) bar-girl, with all the mental problems that come with that profession and a greedy attitude towards your money for her and her family.

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If you're 50 years+, there is only 1 reason why a women would be interested in you and that's for money or for inheritance when she/her family 'dispose' of you

 

 

Shocking nonsense. That is a seriously jaded person.

I've met a few bargirls over the years(not in bars) and none of them asked me for money nor expected any. Though on at least one occasion, I may have helped out with rent of 2,000 baht. I know if they ask, they really need it.

Perhaps the real issue is the low standard of the males involved. If someone wants to be with me, they need to come up to my standards..... or git!

Bar girl in this case, took up a normal job in order to prove herself to me. Still with no financial support from me.

So many are so desperate, that they lower themselves to accepting garbage or they are just garbage themselves and get what they deserve.

Of course there is every combination in between. Up to you. Find a women who is right for you or just settle for whatever you can get.

Ex bar girl doesn't equate to bad or greedy person. If you have high standards, it's easy to separate the wheat from the chaff.

 

 

 

[ChicagoExpat]

2 hours ago, KireB said:

What a nonsense. Real men don't support their wives or families financially, real men find a real wife who loves them for who they are. A truly real man (not you obviously!)  enables his sweetheart to take care of herself.

Best to keep paying yours in your situation.

“Real men don’t support their wives financially…”. Kire, just when I think you’ve said the dumbest thing possible you always outdo yourself.  In addition to revealing that you are a lazy leech who, if married, would sit around so his wife could support him, you’ve likely insulted nearly all of us here.

 

Anyone here support their wife and family?  If so, KireB thinks “you’re not a real man.”

 

Well done… a dick-faced monkey is an inspired choice of avatar.

[freedomnow]

Regardless, he will get chewed up and spat out by health care issues and Thai residency rules..so it will be the short-haul for him.

 

The no-money in bank long-stay visa routes will probably be ended at some future point also.

[Celsius]

15 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

So many are so desperate, that they lower themselves to accepting garbage or they are just garbage themselves and get what they deserve

 

What posters do you have on mind?

[simon43]

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Shocking nonsense. That is a seriously jaded person.

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I would politely disagree with you and say that I am a seriously realistic person.

 

Look, the OP is not in his 20's or 30's or..... it seems that he is in his 70's and with only a modest income.  IMHO he can't risk throwing money around on women at his age. It's too much of a financial risk to try to find that 1 in a 1,000 woman (or even lower odds), who loves him for what he is.  Better to relax and enjoy the scenery instead...

[fredwiggy]

2 hours ago, KireB said:

What a nonsense. Real men don't support their wives or families financially, real men find a real wife who loves them for who they are. A truly real man (not you obviously!)  enables his sweetheart to take care of herself.

Best to keep paying yours in your situation.

Real men support family living with them, with the exception of adult children who should be working or in school and do something to contribute. A wife might be a homemaker, taking care of children and the house, while the man works. Who else is going to support them besides the husband? Helping your wife if she is going to school by supporting her is also support. 

 

Of course any man wants to find a woman who loves them for who they are, but many have other motives for marriage. Some are greedy, gold diggers, lazy, incapable of working, so they look for a man that will take care of them but it's that man's choice if he wants to take that on. Finding a woman here that loves you first for who you are is impossible, as they've all lived around other locals who have proven to be not too good at taking care of a family. Yes, there might be attraction first, which isn't a choice, but after that is started, they'll be thinking support, and there's really nothing wrong with that unless it goes overboard, meaning wanting money for family or bad habits. The role of a man is first to take care of his family.

[SMIAI]

@simon43 You did write 50+

 

70's depends on his physical condition. If he's 70, but looks and acts younger(in a good way) and has high standards, there are good women out there for him. 40's 50's why not?

If he's decrepit and looking for a 30 year old woman, then he may get what he deserves.

 

[KireB]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Real men support family living with them, with the exception of adult children who should be working or in school and do something to contribute. A wife might be a homemaker, taking care of children and the house, while the man works. Who else is going to support them besides the husband? Helping your wife if she is going to school by supporting her is also support. 

 

Of course any man wants to find a woman who loves them for who they are, but many have other motives for marriage. Some are greedy, gold diggers, lazy, incapable of working, so they look for a man that will take care of them but it's that man's choice if he wants to take that on. Finding a woman here that loves you first for who you are is impossible, as they've all lived around other locals who have proven to be not too good at taking care of a family. Yes, there might be attraction first, which isn't a choice, but after that is started, they'll be thinking support, and there's really nothing wrong with that unless it goes overboard, meaning wanting money for family or bad habits. The role of a man is first to take care of his family.

You are 100% right

[ChicagoExpat]

21 minutes ago, KireB said:

After calling me a pedophile you are trying to convince me you are a father yourself.  And that makes you, indeed, the biggest loser on this forum. 

Alright, Kire, I think we’re done for the day, wouldn’t you say?

[SMIAI]

@fredwiggy

 

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Time always tells the truth of people's motives, and it doesn't happen in a few months. And rubbish is the opposite of what it is, as has been proven countless times when men see why the women are really with them. This does not mean the few who have found true love here both as well off independents.

 

Think of how many couples you really know well personally, here, which is not too many for most people, and think if you know why the woman is with the man, especially seeing many couples here have a large age difference. Most of them are with the foreigner because she feels he can take better care of her than what she's seen with locals here, especially if she's a regular Thai woman and not hi-so.

 

Helping out bar girls isn't being around normal thinking people, although it's a nice gesture. Why do you think most Thai-foreign couples here are together? Attraction first? Yes, of course there might be attraction, which isn't a choice, when they first meet, but the woman's real agenda is still the same as before they met. Someone to take care of her. Thai women prefer Thai men, and if a Thai woman is independent with money in hand, she will look first for a Thai man of the same stature. if she meets a foreigner and is attracted to him, and he is comfortable, it surely can happen. Thinking otherwise is naive.

 

That has nothing to do with what you wrote originally and is in fact just a flight of fancy.

You wrote:

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Finding a woman here that loves you first for who you are is impossible, as they've all lived around other locals who have proven to be not too good at taking care of a family.

 

So address that if your intention is to have a discussion and a sharing of experiences, rather than to ramble on, talking at people, with some fabricated opinion piece.

Why is it that you are unable to write of your own personal experiences?

 

My actual experience trumps your flight of fancy that is based on nothing but you imagining that your construct is somehow reality.

 

Write of your actual experience, rather than something that you have read and simply put together in your mind.

Stop trying to tell us what other people have experienced and tell us what you have experienced.....or not as the case may be.

 

Thai woman loved and loves me firstly for the way I am. I haven't given her any money other than the 2,000 baht mentioned earlier....and that was a looooong time ago. That's reality, rather than a construct existing solely in your mind.

 

The fact that other people settle for less, is to do with their own weakness and nothing to do with your false statement of:

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Finding a woman here that loves you first for who you are is impossible, as they've all lived around other locals who have proven to be not too good at taking care of a family.

 

That is in your experience. Talk about yourself. Is that too difficult for you? 

 

 

 

 

[KireB]

43 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Time always tells the truth of people's motives, and it doesn't happen in a few months. And rubbish is the opposite of what it is, as has been proven countless times when men see why the women are really with them. This does not mean the few who have found true love here both as well off independents.

 

Think of how many couples you really know well personally, here, which is not too many for most people, and think if you know why the woman is with the man, especially seeing many couples here have a large age difference. Most of them are with the foreigner because she feels he can take better care of her than what she's seen with locals here, especially if she's a regular Thai woman and not hi-so.

 

Helping out bar girls isn't being around normal thinking people, although it's a nice gesture. Why do you think most Thai-foreign couples here are together? Attraction first? Yes, of course there might be attraction, which isn't a choice, when they first meet, but the woman's real agenda is still the same as before they met. Someone to take care of her. Thai women prefer Thai men, and if a Thai woman is independent with money in hand, she will look first for a Thai man of the same stature. if she meets a foreigner and is attracted to him, and he is comfortable, it surely can happen. Thinking otherwise is naive.

Most Thai-Foreign couples I know, are together based on attraction, and absolutely not on financial perspective. There are many highly educated, ambitious (and stunning)  women out there if you are willing to actually put an effort in. I guess it filters down in what (age) pond we are fishing.

 

[FritsSikkink]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Yes, as an OAP living on a western pension, I've found many desperately poor young and attractive Thai farm girls prepared to fall in love with me.

 

Not absolutely sure on their 'virtue' status though.

I wouldn't be sure about the "fall in love " part too. More likely they want escape poverty and accept everything else.

[ElwoodP]

Off topic posts removed.

Please discuss the OP, not each other.

[camper star]

2 hours ago, Maxbkkcm said:

Where would you meet that woman in bkk? 

pm i will suggest you a location .... the department of transportation 

[camper star]

2 hours ago, SMIAI said:

There is some terrific nonsense being written here. TBH, I'm not sure the OP is 'real' either.

All this describing women in absolutes, even a scientist came out with this;

 

 

Shocking nonsense. That is a seriously jaded person.

I've met a few bargirls over the years(not in bars) and none of them asked me for money nor expected any. Though on at least one occasion, I may have helped out with rent of 2,000 baht. I know if they ask, they really need it.

Perhaps the real issue is the low standard of the males involved. If someone wants to be with me, they need to come up to my standards..... or git!

Bar girl in this case, took up a normal job in order to prove herself to me. Still with no financial support from me.

So many are so desperate, that they lower themselves to accepting garbage or they are just garbage themselves and get what they deserve.

Of course there is every combination in between. Up to you. Find a women who is right for you or just settle for whatever you can get.

Ex bar girl doesn't equate to bad or greedy person. If you have high standards, it's easy to separate the wheat from the chaff.

 

 

 

so life brings us into another country to live another chapter of our life. I've seen the  spraying  of agent orange here during the Viet Nam War. Maybe life is the following  of the teaching of the Buddha after all. 

[Mavideol]

there is the old saying "" love is blind"", by any chance does she wears glasses  555

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, camper star said:

so life brings us into another country to live another chapter of our life. I've seen the  spraying  of agent orange here during the Viet Nam War. Maybe life is the following  of the teaching of the Buddha after all. 

Buddha was aware of what went on in the world around him, just as Jesus was, and they tried to teach people to be good to each other, looking inward for answers. that things aren't the answer, earning a living that doesn't hurt others, among others,which sadly doesn't happen as much as it should.

[camper star]

7 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

there is the old saying "" love is blind"", by any chance does she wears glasses  555

yes Guccic  glassess 

[MalcolmB]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

men are to blame

You should be ashamed of yourself.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, MalcolmB said:

You should be ashamed of yourself.

When you quote someone, you need to put the whole writing in and not make it look like that's all I wrote, or else others won't know the full story. it's just like those that skim here and make judgement on one line without understanding the whole post.

[camper star]

I thank you all for your comments.

I most likely have more experience in an international relationship of an Asia lady. As mentioned I am from the Viet Nam War period. Sadly, now my life has a change of the wind of the map in my life and it goes to the country I have had as a high school student. as a dear friend . Funny how life can repeat itself some years laterl.

[ElwoodP]

@fredwiggy and @SMIAI

Please stop before I remove your posting privileges.