Girl, 12, 'passed around like a "trophy" Raped by Migrant Gang in Austria

[WDSmart]

28 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

So If they gets bail and apply for asylum as a refugee you would let him free to go and rape and threten people in the commmunity more while waiting for trial,  You would have no problem with them repeatedly doing this as long as they have appied for refugee status

Yes, kind of...
If they were ACCUSED of a crime and got bail and then (or before had) applied for asylum as a refugee, I would have no problem with him (or her) paying the bail or arranging for a bond and going free BECAUSE they are at that time, as all accused are, pressumed to be innocent. If they were CONVICTED of a crime, I would expect them to be given the same sentence as anyone else found guilty of committing that crime, and after their sentence was done, ICE could detain them, refuse their asylum application, and deport them if they thought that was best.

[Cryingdick]

10 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, kind of...
If they were ACCUSED of a crime and got bail and then (or before had) applied for asylum as a refugee, I would have no problem with him (or her) paying the bail or arranging for a bond and going free BECAUSE they are at that time, as all accused are, pressumed to be innocent. If they were CONVICTED of a crime, I would expect them to be given the same sentence as anyone else found guilty of committing that crime, and after their sentence was done, ICE could detain them, refuse their asylum application, and deport them if they thought that was best.

Any alien accused of a violent felony should be held without bail as a flight risk. When citizens get bail it is verified they are known in the community, have a job or place to live etc. Your arguments are completely absurd. So let the illegal out on bail with a pending rape charge... okay where do they live or work to be productive? Part of being granted bail is an ability to demonstrate you aren't a risk to the public. 

 

Presumption of innocence applies to court proceedings not bail hearings. If you were presumed innocent you wouldn't have been arrested.

[Airalee]

14 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Any alien accused of a violent felony should be held without bail as a flight risk. When citizens get bail it is verified they are known in the community, have a job or place to live etc. Your arguments are completely absurd. So let the illegal out on bail with a pending rape charge... okay where do they live or work to be productive? Part of being granted bail is an ability to demonstrate you aren't a risk to the public. 

 

Presumption of innocence applies to court proceedings not bail hearings. If you were presumed innocent you wouldn't have been arrested.

It’s hard to try to use common sense with an admitted extreme leftist who thinks that there is no difference between child rape and adult rape and doesn’t even address the specific crime here and only uses the generic term “a crime”.

 

Aren’t leftists the ones fighting for normalizing “minor attracted persons”

 

Evil degenerates they are.

 

 

[Luuk Chaai]

19 hours ago, Hanuman2547 said:

This group of despicable young males need to be put in juvenile prison for a few years and then deported to their home countries.  

there's a special place for "incorrigables" ....

and this is what day one on arrival  looks like

 

[watchcat]

22 hours ago, Social Media said:

They included Turkish, Syrian, Italian, Bulgarian and Serbian nationals.

 

Why do they omport scumbags like that?

[balo]

18 hours ago, Purdey said:

Neither she nor her parents complained to the police. They're must be a reason but the court should put the parents in the stand and find out. 

 

They were all immigrants I believe.

[Mike_Hunt]

Isn’t diversity grand?

[quake]

The west is waking up,  way to late to these immigrants

That have no respect for ladies or the country they're in.

Get Em out.

 

[JonnyF]

Do they have 2 tier sentencing guidelines in Austria like they do in the UK?

 

Hope not...

[WDSmart]

4 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Any alien accused of a violent felony should be held without bail as a flight risk. When citizens get bail it is verified they are known in the community, have a job or place to live etc. Your arguments are completely absurd. So let the illegal out on bail with a pending rape charge... okay where do they live or work to be productive? Part of being granted bail is an ability to demonstrate you aren't a risk to the public. 

 

Presumption of innocence applies to court proceedings not bail hearings. If you were presumed innocent you wouldn't have been arrested.

I agree that aliens should have less of a chance of getting bail than US citizens. Many of these aliens do have jobs and a place to live. Granting bail is primarily to ensure that you show up at the next scheduled hearing. but I agree it also is dependent upon the type of charges you face.

The police that arrested you do believe you MIGHT be guilty, but the judge has to presume you are innocent. That's my understanding of how this works. 

[Cryingdick]

11 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I agree that aliens should have less of a chance of getting bail than US citizens. Many of these aliens do have jobs and a place to live. Granting bail is primarily to ensure that you show up at the next scheduled hearing. but I agree it also is dependent upon the type of charges you face.

The police that arrested you do believe you MIGHT be guilty, but the judge has to presume you are innocent. That's my understanding of how this works. 

 

The police that arrest you believe your ARE guilty. At trial if you choose to go with a jury they have ther standard of the presumption of innocence. The judge must be impartial in the proceedings. There is this notion that everybody in the public must give the presumption of innocence and that isn't true it only applies to the jurors alone.

[still kicking]

On 3/28/2025 at 10:55 AM, Thingamabob said:

Western culture is being obliterated by mass immigration from countries with totally different values. East German Merkel started the rot, and for some inexplicable reason other governments followed. Pretty much unstoppable now.

BornAngela Dorothea Kasner · 17 July 1954 · Hamburg, West Germany

Get your facts right 

[CallumWK]

3 minutes ago, still kicking said:

BornAngela Dorothea Kasner · 17 July 1954 · Hamburg, West Germany

Get your facts right 

 

Maybe YOU should get your facts right.

 

Merkel was born in Hamburg in West Germany. Her family moved to East Germany when she was an infant.

[still kicking]

2 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Maybe YOU should get your facts right.

 

Merkel was born in Hamburg in West Germany. Her family moved to East Germany when she was an infant.

She was born in West Germany; it doesn't matter if the family moved East, she was Germany's Chancellor

[CallumWK]

3 minutes ago, still kicking said:

She was born in West Germany; it doesn't matter if the family moved East, she was Germany's Chancellor

 

She was an East German politician.

 

She then entered politics in the wake of the Revolutions of 1989, briefly serving as deputy spokeswoman for the first democratically elected government of East Germany

[liddelljohn]

On 3/28/2025 at 3:03 AM, sungod said:

 

No, just deport them

Nah Hang them  after castration with a blunt knife

[still kicking]

8 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

She was an East German politician.

 

She then entered politics in the wake of the Revolutions of 1989, briefly serving as deputy spokeswoman for the first democratically elected government of East Germany

Angela Merkel - Wikipedia

[SunnyinBangrak]

54 minutes ago, still kicking said:

BornAngela Dorothea Kasner · 17 July 1954 · Hamburg, West Germany

Get your facts right 

She set in motion the destruction of European civilization. The richest and most diverse cultures on earth. All the wars. All the death and suffering. Our paradise wasn't handed on a plate. She ruined it.

And you bicker and try point scoring over where the monster was born? Seriously?!

[still kicking]

6 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

She set in motion the destruction of European civilization. The richest and most diverse cultures on earth. All the wars. All the death and suffering. Our paradise wasn't handed on a plate. She ruined it.

And you bicker and try point scoring over where the monster was born? Seriously?!

I did not bicker about it somenelse did 

[Thingamabob]

8 hours ago, still kicking said:

BornAngela Dorothea Kasner · 17 July 1954 · Hamburg, West Germany

Get your facts right 

But brought up in East Germany.

[WDSmart]

11 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

The police that arrest you believe your ARE guilty. At trial if you choose to go with a jury they have ther standard of the presumption of innocence. The judge must be impartial in the proceedings. There is this notion that everybody in the public must give the presumption of innocence and that isn't true it only applies to the jurors alone.

Well, if we, the public, judge a person, I believe we should presume that person is innocent, just like the jury. Also, we, the public, aren't given all the information the jury gets, but we also get a lot more via the news. If you watch Fox, you'll probably have a different opinion than if you watch CNN, as I do.