Government Hires Crackpot to "Study" Nonexistent Link Between Vaccines and Autism

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Then you can ignore this too... which comes as no surprise:

Cleveland Clinic study didn’t find that taking more COVID-19 vaccine doses causes increased COVID-19 risk; association alone doesn’t imply causation

 

"Association alone doesn’t indicate causation

Health Feedback reached out to the lead author of the study, infectious disease physician Nabin Shrestha, who clarified in an email that “association is not causation”, and that “Any claim that our study shows a causal relationship between getting more doses of the COVID-19 vaccine and higher risk of infection is false”. [emphasis added]

 

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/cleveland-clinic-study-didnt-find-more-covid-19-vaccine-doses-causes-increased-covid-19-risk-association-alone-doesnt-imply-causation/

 

 

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1 hour ago, johng said:

There is no mountain of evidence,

RFK jr hopefully will start the ballrolling with a full and transparent

analysis of this so called "settled"   issue  which is in fact far from proven,settled or set in stone..."science" should not reject scrutiny...things set in stone are more like religion than science.

 

RFK jr is not anti vaccines he is anti rushed,untested and mandatory vacines.

Really?

Literature Reviews: Autism and Vaccines

Safety of vaccines used for routine immunization in the United States: An updated systematic review and meta-analysis
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34049735
June 2021

Vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella in children  
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34806766/
Cochrane Database Systematic Review
November 2021

The science of vaccine safety: Summary of meeting at Wellcome Trust
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31987690/
Vaccine
February 2020

Measles, Mumps, Rubella Vaccination and Autism: A Nationwide Cohort Study
PDF available here
Annals of Internal Medicine
March 2019

Autism Occurrence by MMR Vaccine Status Among US Children With Older Siblings With and Without Autism
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2275444
The Journal of the American Medical Association
April 2015

Safety of Vaccines Used for Routine Immunization of U.S. Children: A Systematic Review
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25086160
Pediatrics
August 2014

Vaccines are Not Associated with Autism: An Evidence-Based Meta-Analysis of Case-Control and Cohort Studies
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24814559
Vaccine
June 2014

On-time Vaccine Receipt in the First Year Does Not Adversely Affect Neuropsychological Outcomes
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/125/6/1134/72509/On-time-Vaccine-Receipt-in-the-First-Year-Does-Not?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Pediatrics
Smith, M and Woods, C
June 2010

Vaccines and Autism: A Tale of Shifting Hypotheses
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/596476
Clinical Infectious Diseases
Offit, Paul and Gerber, Jeffrey S.
February 2009

Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism
http://www.iom.edu/reports/2004/immunization-safety-review-vaccines-and-autism.aspx
Institute of Medicine
May 2004

Adverse Effects of Pertussis and Rubella Vaccines: A Report of the Committee to Review the Adverse Consequences of Pertussis and Rubella Vaccines
http://www.nap.edu/catalog/1815/adverse-effects-of-pertussis-and-rubella-vaccines
Institute of Medicine
1991

 

Vaccines in infancy and Autism:  Too Many Too Soon?”

Addressing Parents’ Concerns: Do Multiple Vaccines Overwhelm or Weaken the Infant’s Immune System?
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/109/1/124/79755/Addressing-Parents-Concerns-Do-Multiple-Vaccines?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Pediatrics
Offit, Paul A., Quarles, Jessica, et al.
2002

Immunization Safety Review: Multiple Immunizations and Immune Dysfunction
http://www.iom.edu/reports/2002/immunization-safety-review-multiple-immunizations-and-immune-dysfunction.aspx
Institute of Medicine
February 2002

Cellular Immune Responses in Neonates
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10763708

International Reviews of Immunology
Fadel S, Sarazotti M.
2000

Neonatal and Early Life Vaccinology
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11348697
Vaccine
Siegrist CA.
2001

The Problem with Dr. Bob’s Alternative Vaccine Schedule
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/1/e164.abstract
Pediatrics
Offit, Paul A. and Moser, Charlotte A.
January 2009

 

Thimerosal and Autism Studies

Neuropsychological performance 10 years after immunization in infancy with thimerosal-containing vaccines.
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/2/475?
Pediatrics
Tozzi AE, Bisiacchi P, Tarantino V, De Mei B, D’Elia L, Chariotti F, Salmaso S.
January 2009

Continuing Increases in Autism Reported to California’s Developmental Services System
http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/65/1/19
Archives of General Psychiatry
Robert Schechter, MD, MSc and Judith K. Grether, PhD
January 2008

Early Thimerosal Exposure and Neuropsychological Outcomes at 7 to 10 Years
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/13/1281
New England Journal of Medicine
Thompson WW, Price C, Goodson B, et al.
September 2007

Lack of Association Between Rh Status, Rh Immune Globulin in Pregnancy and Autism
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/114264055/ABSTRACT
American Journal of Medical Genetics
Judith H. Miles and T. Nicole Takahashi
May 2007

Comparison of Blood and Brain Mercury Levels in Infant Monkeys Exposed to Methylmercury or Vaccines Containing Thimerosal
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16079072&query_hl=1
Environmental Health Perspectives
Thomas M. Burbacher, PhD
April 2005

Thimerosal Exposure in Infants and Developmental Disorders: A Prospective Cohort Study in the United Kingdom Does Not Support a Causal Association
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15342824&query_hl=5
Pediatrics
John Heron and Nick Andrews, PhD and Jean Golding, DSc
September 2004

Neurotoxic Effects of Postnatal Thimerosal Are Mouse Strain Dependent
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15184908&query_hl=10
Molecular Psychiatry
M Hornig, M
June 2004

Safety of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: A Two-Phased Study of Computerized Health Maintenance Organization Database
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14595043&query_hl=59
Pediatrics
Thomas Verstraeten, MD
November 2003

Association Between Thimerosal-Containing Vaccine and Autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14519711&query_hl=16
Journal of the American Medical Association
Anders Hviid, MSc
October 2003

Thimerosal and the Occurrence of Autism: Negative Ecological Evidence from Danish Population-Based Data
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15496004&query_hl=19
Pediatrics
Kreesten M. Madsen, MD
September 2003

“Autism and Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: Lack of Consistent Evidence for an Association”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12880876&query_hl=21
American Journal of Preventive Medicine
Paul Stehr-Green, DrPh, MPH
August 2003

Thimerosal and Autism?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12612255&query_hl=22
Pediatrics
Karen Nelson, MD
March 2003

Mercury concentrations and metabolism in infants receiving vaccines containing thiomersal: A descriptive study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12480426&query_hl=30
The Lancet
Michael Pichichero, MD
November 2002

 

Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) Vaccine and Autism Studies

Safety of measles and pertussis-containing vaccines in children with autism spectrum disorders
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35315325
April 2022

Autism occurrence by MMR vaccine status among US children with older siblings with and without autism
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25898051/
JAMA
April 2015

Examination of the Safety of Pediatric Vaccine Schedules in a Non-Human Primate Model: Assessments of Neurodevelopment, Learning, and Social Behavior
http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/wp-content/uploads/advpub/2015/2/ehp.1408257.acco.pdf
Environmental Health Perspectives
February 2015

Early Exposure to the Combined Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccine and Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorder
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25562790
Vaccine
January 3, 2015

Remembering How to Fight Measles
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/opinion/remembering-how-to-fight-measles.html?emc=eta1&_r=0
New York Times
Paul A. Offit, MD
March 2014

How to Think About the Risk of Autism
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/opinion/sunday/how-to-think-about-the-risk-of-autism.html
New York Times
Sam Wang, Ph.D.
March 2014

Lack of Association Between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy: A Case-Control Study
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi/10.1371/journal.pone.0003140
PLoS One
Hornig M, Briese T, Buie T, Bauman ML, Lauwers G, et al.
September 2008

Measles Vaccination and Antibody Response in Autism Spectrum Disorders
https://adc.bmj.com/content/93/10/832.abstract?
Archives of Disease in Childhood
Gillian Baird, F.R.C.Paed.
February 2008

Pervasive Developmental Disorders in Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Prevalence and Links With Immunizations
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16818529&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum
Pediatrics
Eric Fombonne, MD
July 2006

MMR Vaccination and Pervasive Developmental Disorders: A Case-Control Study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15364187&query_hl=38
The Lancet
Liam Smeeth, MRCGP
September 11, 2004

Association of Autistic Spectrum Disorder and the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12860782&query_hl=40
Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine
Kumanan Wilson, MD, MSc, FRCP
July 2003

Neurologic Disorders After Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12415036&query_hl=64
Pediatrics
Annamari Makela, MD
November 2002

No Evidence for a New Variant of Measles-Mumps-Rubella-Induced Autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11581466&query_hl=66
Pediatrics
Eric Fombonne, FRCPsych
October 2001

 

Autism and Other Vaccines

Maternal Influenza A(H1N1) Immunization During Pregnancy and Risk for Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring : A Cohort Study
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32866418/
Annals of Internal Medicine
October, 2020

Prenatal Tetanus, Diphtheria, Acellular Pertussis Vaccination and Autism Spectrum Disorder
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30104424/
Pediatrics
October 2020

Association Between Influenza Infection and Vaccination During Pregnancy and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorder
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27893896/
JAMA Pediatrics
January, 2017

[Autocan]

RFK Jr.'s an idiot. He got the HHS job for delivering large numbers of like-minded idiots to Trump.

 

Now I have no problem with unvaccinated dying in large numbers. That would be a good thing. Trouble is virus don't make IQ distinctions going from one body to another. So a lot of smart productive people will die simply from being in physical proximity to a nitwit.

 

Already happening. See TX and NM measles outbreaks. And what will be embarrassing is when other countries require travelers who have been in the US to produce vaccine certificates or go into quarantine (like people from Benin and Burkina Faso and CAR).

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1 hour ago, TedG said:

But people with the VAX still got COVID.  

But a lot lower percentage of them died from it or suffered long term consequences.

[johng]

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Then you can ignore this too... which comes as no surprise:

Yes I ignore that too..so glad I have no one on my ignore list.

I can ignore what I want  including these stupid debunking stories  from the so called  "fact checkers"     

look I and many others simply do not believe you, the establishment and so called fact checkers any more, you are totally debunked by the last few years of real life evidence.

 

[johng]

5 minutes ago, Autocan said:

Now I have no problem with unvaccinated dying in large numbers. That would be a good thing

 

You are quite disgusting  wishing death onto fellow human beings !!

[Autocan]

3 minutes ago, johng said:

 

You are quite disgusting  wishing death onto fellow human beings !!

I am wishing, yes. And those that refuse vaccination are actually delivering it to those around them.

 

You choose who's more disgusting.

[johng]

1 minute ago, Autocan said:

You choose who's more disgusting.

 

I choose you,  but  perhaps you are not really fully aware about "vaccination"

and it's "effectiveness"   or the possibilities of alternatives.

 

 

 

[stuandjulie]

2 hours ago, johng said:

There is no mountain of evidence,

RFK jr hopefully will start the ballrolling with a full and transparent

analysis of this so called "settled"   issue  which is in fact far from proven,settled or set in stone..."science" should not reject scrutiny...things set in stone are more like religion than science.

 

RFK jr is not anti vaccines he is anti rushed,untested and mandatory vacines.

Except there is a mountain of evidence, it was morons that started this with scaremongering of the mmr vaccine, result? measles and mumps resurgent causing more deaths and misery. And the tin foil brigade still think they are correct, certainly a non qualified quack will tell you want you want to hear. some non retarded articles for you The MMR Vaccine and Autism - PMC MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccine - NHS

[BLMFem]

29 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Really?

Literature Reviews: Autism and Vaccines

Safety of vaccines used for routine immunization in the United States: An updated systematic review and meta-analysis
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34049735
June 2021

Vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella in children  
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34806766/
Cochrane Database Systematic Review
November 2021

The science of vaccine safety: Summary of meeting at Wellcome Trust
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31987690/
Vaccine
February 2020

Measles, Mumps, Rubella Vaccination and Autism: A Nationwide Cohort Study
PDF available here
Annals of Internal Medicine
March 2019

Autism Occurrence by MMR Vaccine Status Among US Children With Older Siblings With and Without Autism
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2275444
The Journal of the American Medical Association
April 2015

Safety of Vaccines Used for Routine Immunization of U.S. Children: A Systematic Review
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25086160
Pediatrics
August 2014

Vaccines are Not Associated with Autism: An Evidence-Based Meta-Analysis of Case-Control and Cohort Studies
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24814559
Vaccine
June 2014

On-time Vaccine Receipt in the First Year Does Not Adversely Affect Neuropsychological Outcomes
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/125/6/1134/72509/On-time-Vaccine-Receipt-in-the-First-Year-Does-Not?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Pediatrics
Smith, M and Woods, C
June 2010

Vaccines and Autism: A Tale of Shifting Hypotheses
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/596476
Clinical Infectious Diseases
Offit, Paul and Gerber, Jeffrey S.
February 2009

Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism
http://www.iom.edu/reports/2004/immunization-safety-review-vaccines-and-autism.aspx
Institute of Medicine
May 2004

Adverse Effects of Pertussis and Rubella Vaccines: A Report of the Committee to Review the Adverse Consequences of Pertussis and Rubella Vaccines
http://www.nap.edu/catalog/1815/adverse-effects-of-pertussis-and-rubella-vaccines
Institute of Medicine
1991

 

Vaccines in infancy and Autism:  Too Many Too Soon?”

Addressing Parents’ Concerns: Do Multiple Vaccines Overwhelm or Weaken the Infant’s Immune System?
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/109/1/124/79755/Addressing-Parents-Concerns-Do-Multiple-Vaccines?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Pediatrics
Offit, Paul A., Quarles, Jessica, et al.
2002

Immunization Safety Review: Multiple Immunizations and Immune Dysfunction
http://www.iom.edu/reports/2002/immunization-safety-review-multiple-immunizations-and-immune-dysfunction.aspx
Institute of Medicine
February 2002

Cellular Immune Responses in Neonates
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10763708

International Reviews of Immunology
Fadel S, Sarazotti M.
2000

Neonatal and Early Life Vaccinology
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11348697
Vaccine
Siegrist CA.
2001

The Problem with Dr. Bob’s Alternative Vaccine Schedule
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/1/e164.abstract
Pediatrics
Offit, Paul A. and Moser, Charlotte A.
January 2009

 

Thimerosal and Autism Studies

Neuropsychological performance 10 years after immunization in infancy with thimerosal-containing vaccines.
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/2/475?
Pediatrics
Tozzi AE, Bisiacchi P, Tarantino V, De Mei B, D’Elia L, Chariotti F, Salmaso S.
January 2009

Continuing Increases in Autism Reported to California’s Developmental Services System
http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/65/1/19
Archives of General Psychiatry
Robert Schechter, MD, MSc and Judith K. Grether, PhD
January 2008

Early Thimerosal Exposure and Neuropsychological Outcomes at 7 to 10 Years
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/13/1281
New England Journal of Medicine
Thompson WW, Price C, Goodson B, et al.
September 2007

Lack of Association Between Rh Status, Rh Immune Globulin in Pregnancy and Autism
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/114264055/ABSTRACT
American Journal of Medical Genetics
Judith H. Miles and T. Nicole Takahashi
May 2007

Comparison of Blood and Brain Mercury Levels in Infant Monkeys Exposed to Methylmercury or Vaccines Containing Thimerosal
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16079072&query_hl=1
Environmental Health Perspectives
Thomas M. Burbacher, PhD
April 2005

Thimerosal Exposure in Infants and Developmental Disorders: A Prospective Cohort Study in the United Kingdom Does Not Support a Causal Association
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15342824&query_hl=5
Pediatrics
John Heron and Nick Andrews, PhD and Jean Golding, DSc
September 2004

Neurotoxic Effects of Postnatal Thimerosal Are Mouse Strain Dependent
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15184908&query_hl=10
Molecular Psychiatry
M Hornig, M
June 2004

Safety of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: A Two-Phased Study of Computerized Health Maintenance Organization Database
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14595043&query_hl=59
Pediatrics
Thomas Verstraeten, MD
November 2003

Association Between Thimerosal-Containing Vaccine and Autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14519711&query_hl=16
Journal of the American Medical Association
Anders Hviid, MSc
October 2003

Thimerosal and the Occurrence of Autism: Negative Ecological Evidence from Danish Population-Based Data
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15496004&query_hl=19
Pediatrics
Kreesten M. Madsen, MD
September 2003

“Autism and Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: Lack of Consistent Evidence for an Association”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12880876&query_hl=21
American Journal of Preventive Medicine
Paul Stehr-Green, DrPh, MPH
August 2003

Thimerosal and Autism?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12612255&query_hl=22
Pediatrics
Karen Nelson, MD
March 2003

Mercury concentrations and metabolism in infants receiving vaccines containing thiomersal: A descriptive study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12480426&query_hl=30
The Lancet
Michael Pichichero, MD
November 2002

 

Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) Vaccine and Autism Studies

Safety of measles and pertussis-containing vaccines in children with autism spectrum disorders
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35315325
April 2022

Autism occurrence by MMR vaccine status among US children with older siblings with and without autism
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25898051/
JAMA
April 2015

Examination of the Safety of Pediatric Vaccine Schedules in a Non-Human Primate Model: Assessments of Neurodevelopment, Learning, and Social Behavior
http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/wp-content/uploads/advpub/2015/2/ehp.1408257.acco.pdf
Environmental Health Perspectives
February 2015

Early Exposure to the Combined Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccine and Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorder
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25562790
Vaccine
January 3, 2015

Remembering How to Fight Measles
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/opinion/remembering-how-to-fight-measles.html?emc=eta1&_r=0
New York Times
Paul A. Offit, MD
March 2014

How to Think About the Risk of Autism
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/opinion/sunday/how-to-think-about-the-risk-of-autism.html
New York Times
Sam Wang, Ph.D.
March 2014

Lack of Association Between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy: A Case-Control Study
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi/10.1371/journal.pone.0003140
PLoS One
Hornig M, Briese T, Buie T, Bauman ML, Lauwers G, et al.
September 2008

Measles Vaccination and Antibody Response in Autism Spectrum Disorders
https://adc.bmj.com/content/93/10/832.abstract?
Archives of Disease in Childhood
Gillian Baird, F.R.C.Paed.
February 2008

Pervasive Developmental Disorders in Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Prevalence and Links With Immunizations
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16818529&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum
Pediatrics
Eric Fombonne, MD
July 2006

MMR Vaccination and Pervasive Developmental Disorders: A Case-Control Study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15364187&query_hl=38
The Lancet
Liam Smeeth, MRCGP
September 11, 2004

Association of Autistic Spectrum Disorder and the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12860782&query_hl=40
Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine
Kumanan Wilson, MD, MSc, FRCP
July 2003

Neurologic Disorders After Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12415036&query_hl=64
Pediatrics
Annamari Makela, MD
November 2002

No Evidence for a New Variant of Measles-Mumps-Rubella-Induced Autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11581466&query_hl=66
Pediatrics
Eric Fombonne, FRCPsych
October 2001

 

Autism and Other Vaccines

Maternal Influenza A(H1N1) Immunization During Pregnancy and Risk for Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring : A Cohort Study
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32866418/
Annals of Internal Medicine
October, 2020

Prenatal Tetanus, Diphtheria, Acellular Pertussis Vaccination and Autism Spectrum Disorder
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30104424/
Pediatrics
October 2020

Association Between Influenza Infection and Vaccination During Pregnancy and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorder
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27893896/
JAMA Pediatrics
January, 2017

 

You can lead the mare to water....

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1 minute ago, BLMFem said:

 

You can lead the mare to water....

What's remarkable is that someone can blithely assert that there is no mountain of evidence without even bothering to look if that was the case. It took me at most 2 minutes to find this.

[BLMFem]

23 minutes ago, johng said:

 

I choose you,  but  perhaps you are not really fully aware about "vaccination"

and it's "effectiveness"   or the possibilities of alternatives.

 

 

 

A video from 19 years ago because that's when science stopped, right? Not that you give a rodent's behind what the science says.

I hereby petition for a shaking-the-head, rolling-the-eyes and slapping-one's-forehead emoji all rolled into one to be added to the emoji options.

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Autocan said:

RFK Jr.'s an idiot.

I am not going to debate vaccines as this debate has gone unresolved since Covid and I ain't touching it with a 10-foot pole. But let's examine some other things about RFK Jr's policies. And I'd like to suggest that he's not an idiot at all but the first person in power to revolutionize health issues. 

 

https://www.ajmc.com/view/5-health-policy-stances-of-robert-f-kennedy-jr

focus on combating chemicals, pollutants, and additives (US is behind Europe in additives allowed in foods)

 

discouraging seed oils (finally tackling the corruption of use of seed oils in the entire food industry making everyone sick)

 

advocating for raw milk (which is much healthier than pasteurized ... again US is behind in legalizing raw milk compared to many places in Europe)

 

that's it. I'll stop there. I dont have time to do a Phd on the topic.

 

Rather than conclude RFK Jr's an idiot, maybe we can conclude that he's too deep for you? I'm not going to call YOU an idiot. 

 

 

 

[BLMFem]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What's remarkable is that someone can blithely assert that there is no mountain of evidence without even bothering to look if that was the case. It took me at most 2 minutes to find this.

What's even more remarkable is that when you produce the science-based evidence showing that they are wrong they just turn around and say "I choose to ignore it"!

[johng]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

What's remarkable is that someone can blithely assert that there is no mountain of evidence without even bothering to look if that was the case. It took me at most 2 minutes to find this.

 

Perhaps you forget  this but back during the dark days of Covidiocy  there where quite a few posts on here  citing 100's of studies   in a big long list like you just did  and they where removed  summarily  without  bothering to look if it was the case or not.   took you 2 minutes to find those  now try to find those that counteract your argument..

[johng]

5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

A video from 19 years ago because that's when science stopped,

 

You obviously do not comprehend what the video is  telling you  doesn’t matter if it was 19 years ago..there is no evidence that the flu shot has any meaningful effect  "mass vaccination of the elderly haven’t done the job"  does that not compute ?

[Stiddle Mump]

50 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Really?

Literature Reviews: Autism and Vaccines

Safety of vaccines used for routine immunization in the United States: An updated systematic review and meta-analysis
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34049735
June 2021

Vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella in children  
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34806766/
Cochrane Database Systematic Review
November 2021

The science of vaccine safety: Summary of meeting at Wellcome Trust
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31987690/
Vaccine
February 2020

Measles, Mumps, Rubella Vaccination and Autism: A Nationwide Cohort Study
PDF available here
Annals of Internal Medicine
March 2019

Autism Occurrence by MMR Vaccine Status Among US Children With Older Siblings With and Without Autism
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2275444
The Journal of the American Medical Association
April 2015

Safety of Vaccines Used for Routine Immunization of U.S. Children: A Systematic Review
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25086160
Pediatrics
August 2014

Vaccines are Not Associated with Autism: An Evidence-Based Meta-Analysis of Case-Control and Cohort Studies
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24814559
Vaccine
June 2014

On-time Vaccine Receipt in the First Year Does Not Adversely Affect Neuropsychological Outcomes
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/125/6/1134/72509/On-time-Vaccine-Receipt-in-the-First-Year-Does-Not?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Pediatrics
Smith, M and Woods, C
June 2010

Vaccines and Autism: A Tale of Shifting Hypotheses
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/596476
Clinical Infectious Diseases
Offit, Paul and Gerber, Jeffrey S.
February 2009

Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism
http://www.iom.edu/reports/2004/immunization-safety-review-vaccines-and-autism.aspx
Institute of Medicine
May 2004

Adverse Effects of Pertussis and Rubella Vaccines: A Report of the Committee to Review the Adverse Consequences of Pertussis and Rubella Vaccines
http://www.nap.edu/catalog/1815/adverse-effects-of-pertussis-and-rubella-vaccines
Institute of Medicine
1991

 

Vaccines in infancy and Autism:  Too Many Too Soon?”

Addressing Parents’ Concerns: Do Multiple Vaccines Overwhelm or Weaken the Infant’s Immune System?
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/109/1/124/79755/Addressing-Parents-Concerns-Do-Multiple-Vaccines?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Pediatrics
Offit, Paul A., Quarles, Jessica, et al.
2002

Immunization Safety Review: Multiple Immunizations and Immune Dysfunction
http://www.iom.edu/reports/2002/immunization-safety-review-multiple-immunizations-and-immune-dysfunction.aspx
Institute of Medicine
February 2002

Cellular Immune Responses in Neonates
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10763708

International Reviews of Immunology
Fadel S, Sarazotti M.
2000

Neonatal and Early Life Vaccinology
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11348697
Vaccine
Siegrist CA.
2001

The Problem with Dr. Bob’s Alternative Vaccine Schedule
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/1/e164.abstract
Pediatrics
Offit, Paul A. and Moser, Charlotte A.
January 2009

 

Thimerosal and Autism Studies

Neuropsychological performance 10 years after immunization in infancy with thimerosal-containing vaccines.
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/2/475?
Pediatrics
Tozzi AE, Bisiacchi P, Tarantino V, De Mei B, D’Elia L, Chariotti F, Salmaso S.
January 2009

Continuing Increases in Autism Reported to California’s Developmental Services System
http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/65/1/19
Archives of General Psychiatry
Robert Schechter, MD, MSc and Judith K. Grether, PhD
January 2008

Early Thimerosal Exposure and Neuropsychological Outcomes at 7 to 10 Years
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/13/1281
New England Journal of Medicine
Thompson WW, Price C, Goodson B, et al.
September 2007

Lack of Association Between Rh Status, Rh Immune Globulin in Pregnancy and Autism
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/114264055/ABSTRACT
American Journal of Medical Genetics
Judith H. Miles and T. Nicole Takahashi
May 2007

Comparison of Blood and Brain Mercury Levels in Infant Monkeys Exposed to Methylmercury or Vaccines Containing Thimerosal
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16079072&query_hl=1
Environmental Health Perspectives
Thomas M. Burbacher, PhD
April 2005

Thimerosal Exposure in Infants and Developmental Disorders: A Prospective Cohort Study in the United Kingdom Does Not Support a Causal Association
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15342824&query_hl=5
Pediatrics
John Heron and Nick Andrews, PhD and Jean Golding, DSc
September 2004

Neurotoxic Effects of Postnatal Thimerosal Are Mouse Strain Dependent
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15184908&query_hl=10
Molecular Psychiatry
M Hornig, M
June 2004

Safety of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: A Two-Phased Study of Computerized Health Maintenance Organization Database
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14595043&query_hl=59
Pediatrics
Thomas Verstraeten, MD
November 2003

Association Between Thimerosal-Containing Vaccine and Autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14519711&query_hl=16
Journal of the American Medical Association
Anders Hviid, MSc
October 2003

Thimerosal and the Occurrence of Autism: Negative Ecological Evidence from Danish Population-Based Data
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15496004&query_hl=19
Pediatrics
Kreesten M. Madsen, MD
September 2003

“Autism and Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: Lack of Consistent Evidence for an Association”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12880876&query_hl=21
American Journal of Preventive Medicine
Paul Stehr-Green, DrPh, MPH
August 2003

Thimerosal and Autism?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12612255&query_hl=22
Pediatrics
Karen Nelson, MD
March 2003

Mercury concentrations and metabolism in infants receiving vaccines containing thiomersal: A descriptive study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12480426&query_hl=30
The Lancet
Michael Pichichero, MD
November 2002

 

Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) Vaccine and Autism Studies

Safety of measles and pertussis-containing vaccines in children with autism spectrum disorders
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35315325
April 2022

Autism occurrence by MMR vaccine status among US children with older siblings with and without autism
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25898051/
JAMA
April 2015

Examination of the Safety of Pediatric Vaccine Schedules in a Non-Human Primate Model: Assessments of Neurodevelopment, Learning, and Social Behavior
http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/wp-content/uploads/advpub/2015/2/ehp.1408257.acco.pdf
Environmental Health Perspectives
February 2015

Early Exposure to the Combined Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccine and Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorder
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25562790
Vaccine
January 3, 2015

Remembering How to Fight Measles
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/opinion/remembering-how-to-fight-measles.html?emc=eta1&_r=0
New York Times
Paul A. Offit, MD
March 2014

How to Think About the Risk of Autism
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/opinion/sunday/how-to-think-about-the-risk-of-autism.html
New York Times
Sam Wang, Ph.D.
March 2014

Lack of Association Between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy: A Case-Control Study
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi/10.1371/journal.pone.0003140
PLoS One
Hornig M, Briese T, Buie T, Bauman ML, Lauwers G, et al.
September 2008

Measles Vaccination and Antibody Response in Autism Spectrum Disorders
https://adc.bmj.com/content/93/10/832.abstract?
Archives of Disease in Childhood
Gillian Baird, F.R.C.Paed.
February 2008

Pervasive Developmental Disorders in Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Prevalence and Links With Immunizations
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16818529&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum
Pediatrics
Eric Fombonne, MD
July 2006

MMR Vaccination and Pervasive Developmental Disorders: A Case-Control Study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15364187&query_hl=38
The Lancet
Liam Smeeth, MRCGP
September 11, 2004

Association of Autistic Spectrum Disorder and the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12860782&query_hl=40
Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine
Kumanan Wilson, MD, MSc, FRCP
July 2003

Neurologic Disorders After Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12415036&query_hl=64
Pediatrics
Annamari Makela, MD
November 2002

No Evidence for a New Variant of Measles-Mumps-Rubella-Induced Autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11581466&query_hl=66
Pediatrics
Eric Fombonne, FRCPsych
October 2001

 

Autism and Other Vaccines

Maternal Influenza A(H1N1) Immunization During Pregnancy and Risk for Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring : A Cohort Study
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32866418/
Annals of Internal Medicine
October, 2020

Prenatal Tetanus, Diphtheria, Acellular Pertussis Vaccination and Autism Spectrum Disorder
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30104424/
Pediatrics
October 2020

Association Between Influenza Infection and Vaccination During Pregnancy and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorder
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27893896/
JAMA Pediatrics
January, 2017

 

[Stiddle Mump]

50 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Really?

Literature Reviews: Autism and Vaccines

Safety of vaccines used for routine immunization in the United States: An updated systematic review and meta-analysis
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34049735
June 2021

Vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella in children  
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34806766/
Cochrane Database Systematic Review
November 2021

The science of vaccine safety: Summary of meeting at Wellcome Trust
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31987690/
Vaccine
February 2020

Measles, Mumps, Rubella Vaccination and Autism: A Nationwide Cohort Study
PDF available here
Annals of Internal Medicine
March 2019

Autism Occurrence by MMR Vaccine Status Among US Children With Older Siblings With and Without Autism
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2275444
The Journal of the American Medical Association
April 2015

Safety of Vaccines Used for Routine Immunization of U.S. Children: A Systematic Review
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25086160
Pediatrics
August 2014

Vaccines are Not Associated with Autism: An Evidence-Based Meta-Analysis of Case-Control and Cohort Studies
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24814559
Vaccine
June 2014

On-time Vaccine Receipt in the First Year Does Not Adversely Affect Neuropsychological Outcomes
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/125/6/1134/72509/On-time-Vaccine-Receipt-in-the-First-Year-Does-Not?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Pediatrics
Smith, M and Woods, C
June 2010

Vaccines and Autism: A Tale of Shifting Hypotheses
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/596476
Clinical Infectious Diseases
Offit, Paul and Gerber, Jeffrey S.
February 2009

Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism
http://www.iom.edu/reports/2004/immunization-safety-review-vaccines-and-autism.aspx
Institute of Medicine
May 2004

Adverse Effects of Pertussis and Rubella Vaccines: A Report of the Committee to Review the Adverse Consequences of Pertussis and Rubella Vaccines
http://www.nap.edu/catalog/1815/adverse-effects-of-pertussis-and-rubella-vaccines
Institute of Medicine
1991

 

Vaccines in infancy and Autism:  Too Many Too Soon?”

Addressing Parents’ Concerns: Do Multiple Vaccines Overwhelm or Weaken the Infant’s Immune System?
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/109/1/124/79755/Addressing-Parents-Concerns-Do-Multiple-Vaccines?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Pediatrics
Offit, Paul A., Quarles, Jessica, et al.
2002

Immunization Safety Review: Multiple Immunizations and Immune Dysfunction
http://www.iom.edu/reports/2002/immunization-safety-review-multiple-immunizations-and-immune-dysfunction.aspx
Institute of Medicine
February 2002

Cellular Immune Responses in Neonates
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10763708

International Reviews of Immunology
Fadel S, Sarazotti M.
2000

Neonatal and Early Life Vaccinology
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11348697
Vaccine
Siegrist CA.
2001

The Problem with Dr. Bob’s Alternative Vaccine Schedule
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/1/e164.abstract
Pediatrics
Offit, Paul A. and Moser, Charlotte A.
January 2009

 

Thimerosal and Autism Studies

Neuropsychological performance 10 years after immunization in infancy with thimerosal-containing vaccines.
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/2/475?
Pediatrics
Tozzi AE, Bisiacchi P, Tarantino V, De Mei B, D’Elia L, Chariotti F, Salmaso S.
January 2009

Continuing Increases in Autism Reported to California’s Developmental Services System
http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/65/1/19
Archives of General Psychiatry
Robert Schechter, MD, MSc and Judith K. Grether, PhD
January 2008

Early Thimerosal Exposure and Neuropsychological Outcomes at 7 to 10 Years
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/13/1281
New England Journal of Medicine
Thompson WW, Price C, Goodson B, et al.
September 2007

Lack of Association Between Rh Status, Rh Immune Globulin in Pregnancy and Autism
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/114264055/ABSTRACT
American Journal of Medical Genetics
Judith H. Miles and T. Nicole Takahashi
May 2007

Comparison of Blood and Brain Mercury Levels in Infant Monkeys Exposed to Methylmercury or Vaccines Containing Thimerosal
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16079072&query_hl=1
Environmental Health Perspectives
Thomas M. Burbacher, PhD
April 2005

Thimerosal Exposure in Infants and Developmental Disorders: A Prospective Cohort Study in the United Kingdom Does Not Support a Causal Association
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15342824&query_hl=5
Pediatrics
John Heron and Nick Andrews, PhD and Jean Golding, DSc
September 2004

Neurotoxic Effects of Postnatal Thimerosal Are Mouse Strain Dependent
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15184908&query_hl=10
Molecular Psychiatry
M Hornig, M
June 2004

Safety of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: A Two-Phased Study of Computerized Health Maintenance Organization Database
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14595043&query_hl=59
Pediatrics
Thomas Verstraeten, MD
November 2003

Association Between Thimerosal-Containing Vaccine and Autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14519711&query_hl=16
Journal of the American Medical Association
Anders Hviid, MSc
October 2003

Thimerosal and the Occurrence of Autism: Negative Ecological Evidence from Danish Population-Based Data
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15496004&query_hl=19
Pediatrics
Kreesten M. Madsen, MD
September 2003

“Autism and Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: Lack of Consistent Evidence for an Association”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12880876&query_hl=21
American Journal of Preventive Medicine
Paul Stehr-Green, DrPh, MPH
August 2003

Thimerosal and Autism?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12612255&query_hl=22
Pediatrics
Karen Nelson, MD
March 2003

Mercury concentrations and metabolism in infants receiving vaccines containing thiomersal: A descriptive study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12480426&query_hl=30
The Lancet
Michael Pichichero, MD
November 2002

 

Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) Vaccine and Autism Studies

Safety of measles and pertussis-containing vaccines in children with autism spectrum disorders
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35315325
April 2022

Autism occurrence by MMR vaccine status among US children with older siblings with and without autism
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25898051/
JAMA
April 2015

Examination of the Safety of Pediatric Vaccine Schedules in a Non-Human Primate Model: Assessments of Neurodevelopment, Learning, and Social Behavior
http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/wp-content/uploads/advpub/2015/2/ehp.1408257.acco.pdf
Environmental Health Perspectives
February 2015

Early Exposure to the Combined Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccine and Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorder
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25562790
Vaccine
January 3, 2015

Remembering How to Fight Measles
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/opinion/remembering-how-to-fight-measles.html?emc=eta1&_r=0
New York Times
Paul A. Offit, MD
March 2014

How to Think About the Risk of Autism
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/opinion/sunday/how-to-think-about-the-risk-of-autism.html
New York Times
Sam Wang, Ph.D.
March 2014

Lack of Association Between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy: A Case-Control Study
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi/10.1371/journal.pone.0003140
PLoS One
Hornig M, Briese T, Buie T, Bauman ML, Lauwers G, et al.
September 2008

Measles Vaccination and Antibody Response in Autism Spectrum Disorders
https://adc.bmj.com/content/93/10/832.abstract?
Archives of Disease in Childhood
Gillian Baird, F.R.C.Paed.
February 2008

Pervasive Developmental Disorders in Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Prevalence and Links With Immunizations
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16818529&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum
Pediatrics
Eric Fombonne, MD
July 2006

MMR Vaccination and Pervasive Developmental Disorders: A Case-Control Study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15364187&query_hl=38
The Lancet
Liam Smeeth, MRCGP
September 11, 2004

Association of Autistic Spectrum Disorder and the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12860782&query_hl=40
Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine
Kumanan Wilson, MD, MSc, FRCP
July 2003

Neurologic Disorders After Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12415036&query_hl=64
Pediatrics
Annamari Makela, MD
November 2002

No Evidence for a New Variant of Measles-Mumps-Rubella-Induced Autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11581466&query_hl=66
Pediatrics
Eric Fombonne, FRCPsych
October 2001

 

Autism and Other Vaccines

Maternal Influenza A(H1N1) Immunization During Pregnancy and Risk for Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring : A Cohort Study
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32866418/
Annals of Internal Medicine
October, 2020

Prenatal Tetanus, Diphtheria, Acellular Pertussis Vaccination and Autism Spectrum Disorder
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30104424/
Pediatrics
October 2020

Association Between Influenza Infection and Vaccination During Pregnancy and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorder
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27893896/
JAMA Pediatrics
January, 2017

Andrew Wakfield is the go-yo white-

[Stiddle Mump]

50 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Really?

Literature Reviews: Autism and Vaccines

Safety of vaccines used for routine immunization in the United States: An updated systematic review and meta-analysis
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34049735
June 2021

Vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella in children  
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34806766/
Cochrane Database Systematic Review
November 2021

The science of vaccine safety: Summary of meeting at Wellcome Trust
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31987690/
Vaccine
February 2020

Measles, Mumps, Rubella Vaccination and Autism: A Nationwide Cohort Study
PDF available here
Annals of Internal Medicine
March 2019

Autism Occurrence by MMR Vaccine Status Among US Children With Older Siblings With and Without Autism
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2275444
The Journal of the American Medical Association
April 2015

Safety of Vaccines Used for Routine Immunization of U.S. Children: A Systematic Review
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25086160
Pediatrics
August 2014

Vaccines are Not Associated with Autism: An Evidence-Based Meta-Analysis of Case-Control and Cohort Studies
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24814559
Vaccine
June 2014

On-time Vaccine Receipt in the First Year Does Not Adversely Affect Neuropsychological Outcomes
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/125/6/1134/72509/On-time-Vaccine-Receipt-in-the-First-Year-Does-Not?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Pediatrics
Smith, M and Woods, C
June 2010

Vaccines and Autism: A Tale of Shifting Hypotheses
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/596476
Clinical Infectious Diseases
Offit, Paul and Gerber, Jeffrey S.
February 2009

Immunization Safety Review: Vaccines and Autism
http://www.iom.edu/reports/2004/immunization-safety-review-vaccines-and-autism.aspx
Institute of Medicine
May 2004

Adverse Effects of Pertussis and Rubella Vaccines: A Report of the Committee to Review the Adverse Consequences of Pertussis and Rubella Vaccines
http://www.nap.edu/catalog/1815/adverse-effects-of-pertussis-and-rubella-vaccines
Institute of Medicine
1991

 

Vaccines in infancy and Autism:  Too Many Too Soon?”

Addressing Parents’ Concerns: Do Multiple Vaccines Overwhelm or Weaken the Infant’s Immune System?
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/109/1/124/79755/Addressing-Parents-Concerns-Do-Multiple-Vaccines?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Pediatrics
Offit, Paul A., Quarles, Jessica, et al.
2002

Immunization Safety Review: Multiple Immunizations and Immune Dysfunction
http://www.iom.edu/reports/2002/immunization-safety-review-multiple-immunizations-and-immune-dysfunction.aspx
Institute of Medicine
February 2002

Cellular Immune Responses in Neonates
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10763708

International Reviews of Immunology
Fadel S, Sarazotti M.
2000

Neonatal and Early Life Vaccinology
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11348697
Vaccine
Siegrist CA.
2001

The Problem with Dr. Bob’s Alternative Vaccine Schedule
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/1/e164.abstract
Pediatrics
Offit, Paul A. and Moser, Charlotte A.
January 2009

 

Thimerosal and Autism Studies

Neuropsychological performance 10 years after immunization in infancy with thimerosal-containing vaccines.
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/2/475?
Pediatrics
Tozzi AE, Bisiacchi P, Tarantino V, De Mei B, D’Elia L, Chariotti F, Salmaso S.
January 2009

Continuing Increases in Autism Reported to California’s Developmental Services System
http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/65/1/19
Archives of General Psychiatry
Robert Schechter, MD, MSc and Judith K. Grether, PhD
January 2008

Early Thimerosal Exposure and Neuropsychological Outcomes at 7 to 10 Years
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/13/1281
New England Journal of Medicine
Thompson WW, Price C, Goodson B, et al.
September 2007

Lack of Association Between Rh Status, Rh Immune Globulin in Pregnancy and Autism
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/114264055/ABSTRACT
American Journal of Medical Genetics
Judith H. Miles and T. Nicole Takahashi
May 2007

Comparison of Blood and Brain Mercury Levels in Infant Monkeys Exposed to Methylmercury or Vaccines Containing Thimerosal
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16079072&query_hl=1
Environmental Health Perspectives
Thomas M. Burbacher, PhD
April 2005

Thimerosal Exposure in Infants and Developmental Disorders: A Prospective Cohort Study in the United Kingdom Does Not Support a Causal Association
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15342824&query_hl=5
Pediatrics
John Heron and Nick Andrews, PhD and Jean Golding, DSc
September 2004

Neurotoxic Effects of Postnatal Thimerosal Are Mouse Strain Dependent
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15184908&query_hl=10
Molecular Psychiatry
M Hornig, M
June 2004

Safety of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: A Two-Phased Study of Computerized Health Maintenance Organization Database
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14595043&query_hl=59
Pediatrics
Thomas Verstraeten, MD
November 2003

Association Between Thimerosal-Containing Vaccine and Autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14519711&query_hl=16
Journal of the American Medical Association
Anders Hviid, MSc
October 2003

Thimerosal and the Occurrence of Autism: Negative Ecological Evidence from Danish Population-Based Data
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15496004&query_hl=19
Pediatrics
Kreesten M. Madsen, MD
September 2003

“Autism and Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: Lack of Consistent Evidence for an Association”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12880876&query_hl=21
American Journal of Preventive Medicine
Paul Stehr-Green, DrPh, MPH
August 2003

Thimerosal and Autism?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12612255&query_hl=22
Pediatrics
Karen Nelson, MD
March 2003

Mercury concentrations and metabolism in infants receiving vaccines containing thiomersal: A descriptive study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12480426&query_hl=30
The Lancet
Michael Pichichero, MD
November 2002

 

Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) Vaccine and Autism Studies

Safety of measles and pertussis-containing vaccines in children with autism spectrum disorders
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35315325
April 2022

Autism occurrence by MMR vaccine status among US children with older siblings with and without autism
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25898051/
JAMA
April 2015

Examination of the Safety of Pediatric Vaccine Schedules in a Non-Human Primate Model: Assessments of Neurodevelopment, Learning, and Social Behavior
http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/wp-content/uploads/advpub/2015/2/ehp.1408257.acco.pdf
Environmental Health Perspectives
February 2015

Early Exposure to the Combined Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccine and Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorder
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25562790
Vaccine
January 3, 2015

Remembering How to Fight Measles
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/opinion/remembering-how-to-fight-measles.html?emc=eta1&_r=0
New York Times
Paul A. Offit, MD
March 2014

How to Think About the Risk of Autism
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/opinion/sunday/how-to-think-about-the-risk-of-autism.html
New York Times
Sam Wang, Ph.D.
March 2014

Lack of Association Between Measles Virus Vaccine and Autism with Enteropathy: A Case-Control Study
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi/10.1371/journal.pone.0003140
PLoS One
Hornig M, Briese T, Buie T, Bauman ML, Lauwers G, et al.
September 2008

Measles Vaccination and Antibody Response in Autism Spectrum Disorders
https://adc.bmj.com/content/93/10/832.abstract?
Archives of Disease in Childhood
Gillian Baird, F.R.C.Paed.
February 2008

Pervasive Developmental Disorders in Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Prevalence and Links With Immunizations
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16818529&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum
Pediatrics
Eric Fombonne, MD
July 2006

MMR Vaccination and Pervasive Developmental Disorders: A Case-Control Study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15364187&query_hl=38
The Lancet
Liam Smeeth, MRCGP
September 11, 2004

Association of Autistic Spectrum Disorder and the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12860782&query_hl=40
Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine
Kumanan Wilson, MD, MSc, FRCP
July 2003

Neurologic Disorders After Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12415036&query_hl=64
Pediatrics
Annamari Makela, MD
November 2002

No Evidence for a New Variant of Measles-Mumps-Rubella-Induced Autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11581466&query_hl=66
Pediatrics
Eric Fombonne, FRCPsych
October 2001

 

Autism and Other Vaccines

Maternal Influenza A(H1N1) Immunization During Pregnancy and Risk for Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring : A Cohort Study
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32866418/
Annals of Internal Medicine
October, 2020

Prenatal Tetanus, Diphtheria, Acellular Pertussis Vaccination and Autism Spectrum Disorder
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30104424/
Pediatrics
October 2020

Association Between Influenza Infection and Vaccination During Pregnancy and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorder
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27893896/
JAMA Pediatrics
January, 2017

Andrew Wakefield is the go-yo white-coat on this.

[johng]

23 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

science-based evidence

You choose to look at only one set of "science based evidence" when there are often many more than one.

[Stiddle Mump]

32 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Andrew Wakfield is the go-yo white-

Sorry guys.

 

Andrew Wakefield is the go to white-coat on this topic.

[Autocan]

49 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

combating chemicals, pollutants, and additives

 

49 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

discouraging seed oils

 

49 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

advocating for raw milk

 

 

51 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Rather than conclude RFK Jr's an idiot, maybe we can conclude that he's too deep for you? I'm not going to call YOU an idiot. 

 

Less chemicals, pollutants, seed oils and more raw milk won't save us from smallpox, polio, measles, tetanus, mumps, and on and on. So I still insist that RFK Jr. is an idiot.

 

Actually, I suspect he's more a cynical fraud. I am sure he has the IQ to know vaccines saved and continue to save millions. But he also knows that there's more money to be made in the fringe than the mainstream. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Sorry guys.

 

Andrew Wakefield is the go to white-coat on this topic.

 

 

No doubt one of your heroes...sadly:

 

"Andrew Jeremy Wakefield (born 3 September 1956^[3][4][a]) is a British fraudster, anti-vaccine activist, and disgraced former physician. He was struck off the medical register for "serious professional misconduct"^[7] due to his involvement in the fraudulent 1998 Lancet MMR autism study that falsely claimed a link between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism."

 

The publicity surrounding the study caused a sharp decline in vaccination uptake, leading to a number of outbreaks of measles around the world and many deaths therefrom.

...

 The Lancet fully retracted Wakefield's 1998 publication on the basis of the GMC's findings, noting that elements of the manuscript had been falsified and that the journal had been "deceived" by Wakefield.^[19][20] Three months later, Wakefield was struck off the UK medical register, in part for his deliberate falsification of research published in The Lancet.^[7][21] In a related legal decision, a British court held that "[t]here is now no respectable body of opinion which supports [Wakefield's] hypothesis, that MMR vaccine and autism/enterocolitis are causally linked".

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

 

 

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52 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Perhaps you forget  this but back during the dark days of Covidiocy  there where quite a few posts on here  citing 100's of studies   in a big long list like you just did  and they where removed  summarily  without  bothering to look if it was the case or not.   took you 2 minutes to find those  now try to find those that counteract your argument..

First off, you claim there wasn't the mountain of studies. Clearly your claim was false, right?

[Stiddle Mump]

48 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

"[t]here is now no respectable body of opinion which supports [Wakefield's] hypothesis, that MMR vaccine and autism/enterocolitis are causally linked".

We will see if the findings in the new study support Dr Wakefield or not.

 

I suspect they will. Too much covering up on this down the years.

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

As usual, COVID misinformation spreaders here doing what they do... spreading misinformation that has long been debunked elsewhere... But of course they ignore all that.

 

Cleveland Clinic Study Did Not Show Vaccines Increase COVID-19 Risk

Posted on June 16, 2023

 

"SciCheck Digest

Numerous studies have found that additional COVID-19 shots are generally associated with extra protection against the coronavirus. Many people on social media, however, have shared a preliminary finding from a Cleveland Clinic study and misrepresented it as proving that getting more doses increases a person’s risk of infection.

 

Full Story

COVID-19 vaccines and boosters reduce the risk of severe disease and death. They also offer some protection against infections, although the effectiveness wanes in the months after getting vaccinated, and such effectiveness is lower against the omicron variant, compared with earlier variants of the coronavirus.

...

The researchers also noticed that people who got more vaccine doses prior to Sept. 12, 2022 — the day the bivalent booster became available at the Cleveland Clinic — had a higher rate of testing positive in the following months than people who had gotten fewer prior vaccine doses. But the researchers didn’t find that more doses caused a higher risk of infection. Rather, this finding was an association that could be due to multiple other factors. And studies have generally found that each additional vaccine dose reduces COVID-19 risk." [emphasis added]

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/06/scicheck-cleveland-clinic-study-did-not-show-vaccines-increase-covid-19-risk/

 

There's a much longer elaboration in the linked Fact Check report (which forum rules prevent me from quoting any more than the excerpts above) explaining why claims such as those made by the poster here are not factually supported, included not factually supported by the Cleveland Clinic study.

Oh look, here is Mr chat gbt, never write Anything yourself, either a bot or paid pharma shill.

No credibility whatsoever

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

22 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

We will see if the findings in the new study support Dr Wakefield or not.

 

I suspect they will. Too much covering up on this down the years.

 

Given the anti-vaxer nutball who's been tasked with performing the study, you're probably right.

 

But also given that, pretty much the entire credible scientific and public health communities will likely end up ignoring the potential anti-vax nonsense that will be forthcoming, recognizing it for what it is (may end up being).

 

Who Is David Geier, the Man Leading Federal Autism-Vaccine Study?

— Discredited researcher, vaccine skeptic was disciplined for practicing medicine without a license

March 27, 2025

 

"David Geier, a man without a medical degree who once was disciplined by the Maryland State Board of Physicians for practicing medicine without a license, reportedly will lead a new HHS study to identify whether a relationship between vaccines and autism exists.

...

David Geier and his father Mark Geier, MD, are known for several discredited studies claiming that thimerosal, a preservative containing low levels of ethylmercury used in some vaccines, increased the risk of autism. (Thimerosal has been reduced or eliminated from vaccines for decades, and all vaccines recommended for children 6 and younger are available in formulations that do not contain thimerosal.)

...

One study used data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. The American Academy of Pediatrics warned clinicians about the study, saying it contained "numerous conceptual and scientific flaws, omissions of fact, inaccuracies, and misstatements," and failed to show a connection between thimerosal and autism.

 

(more)

 

https://archive.ph/4etjy
 

 

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1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Oh look, here is Mr chat gbt, never write Anything yourself, either a bot or paid pharma shill.

No credibility whatsoever

Arguments supported by facts are inferior to just making thing up? Another comment from Oppositeworld.

[BLMFem]

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Oh look, here is Mr chat gbt, never write Anything yourself, either a bot or paid pharma shill.

No credibility whatsoever

Oh look, Putin's boy. 

[frank83628]

12 hours ago, placeholder said:

But a lot lower percentage of them died from it or suffered long term consequences.

there is no way to actially prove that, for normal fit & healthy people COVID was not a great threat, children even less.

It was mainly affecting the elderly and those with preexisting comorbidities