Add insults to injuries -- some of the dumbest details about Trump's ruinous tariffs

[Yagoda]

The dumb tariffs that are now the subject of begging by butt munching world leaders.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/0431ef42-7386-4e19-935e-a06ae40f474c?segmentId=b385c2ad-87ed-d8ff-aaec-0f8435cd42d9

 

You America haters talk a big game, but you are impotent little screechers.

[BerndD]

9 hours ago, Yagoda said:

The dumb tariffs that are now the subject of begging by butt munching world leaders.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/0431ef42-7386-4e19-935e-a06ae40f474c?segmentId=b385c2ad-87ed-d8ff-aaec-0f8435cd42d9

 

You America haters talk a big game, but you are impotent little screechers.

You wrote you are not a MAGA-Idiot. OK so far. But your idiom is worse like theirs.

[thaibeachlovers]

 

 

This topic is some of the dumbest about Trump's tariffs.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

 

This topic is some of the dumbest about Trump's tariffs.

Oh no. Something critical about a hero of yours. 

[Jingthing]

Bonkers, ignorant, unfair and cruel.

Cruel both to American consumers and the targets.

But with maga, cruelty is the point.

 

 

[blaze master]

38 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

41 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

 

This topic is some of the dumbest about Trump's tariffs.

Oh no. Something critical about a hero of yours.

 

Someone makes a comment that differs from how I think.....equates to they love Trump.

 

I wish I was that narrow minded. I could live in my bubble bliss too. 

[nick supreme]

22 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

There is that Golden Showers with the Russian hookers tape. Melania has barely forgiven him for the Stormy Daniel’s thing and the other rapes.

Best not to poke the Russian bear.

I've been wanting to watch the gold shower tape for years.  Where can I find it? 

[nick supreme]

50 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

 

This topic is some of the dumbest about Trump's tariffs.

 

You just can't see the brilliance from us people on the left. 

[phetphet]

Why is Canada and Mexico not on there? Still having background discussions? Or did Donald think he might have made a mistake with the closest neighbours.?

 

A bit too close to home if they both turn to China.  Canada can make getting to Alaska difficult and expensive, and Mexico is building the Intra-coastal Railway that could be faster and cheaper than the Panama Canal for transporting cargo containers..

[phetphet]

22 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

There is that Golden Showers with the Russian hookers tape. Melania has barely forgiven him for the Stormy Daniel’s thing and the other rapes.

Best not to poke the Russian bear.

Golden shower? Oh! Is that why he looks orange?

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, phetphet said:

Why is Canada and Mexico not on there? Still having background discussions? Or did Donald think he might have made a mistake with the closest neighbours.?

 

A bit too close to home if they both turn to China.  Canada can make getting to Alaska difficult and expensive, and Mexico is building the Intra-coastal Railway that could be faster and cheaper than the Panama Canal for transporting cargo containers..

Those two are very major and apparenely still in flux,.

[simple1]

22 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Who owns those uninhabited island?... the country that's getting the 10% tariffs no?

Ukriane.... Do you think the financial loans from the EU countries don't have to be paid?

Russia... well according to the MSM readers here.... their economy is doomed and failing, they have noting to put tariffs on.

OMG, so coffee has gone up, pretty sure Starbucks are over charging even without tariffs.

You're omitting a number of issues.

 

What's the relevance of any debts Ukraine may have with EU in the context of trump's tariffs?

US stocks lost two trillion dollars in value within a day of trump' announcement

Job losses  in US due to the tariffs

Increased cost of living for the less well off in the US

Just about every political leader has denounced the stupidity of trump's blanket tariffs negatively affecting worldwide trade, including the US economy.

 

More info...

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjl3k1we8vo

 

[simple1]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

 

This topic is some of the dumbest about Trump's tariffs.

 

Please provide your insight into the tariffs.

[illisdean]

How ya doin....

 

 

[illisdean]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

Please provide your insight into the tariffs.

Donald Trump’s tariff plan, implemented since his second term began on January 20, 2025, has introduced significant changes to U.S. trade policy, with a mix of reciprocal tariffs (e.g., 10% universal, 20% on the EU), targeted levies (e.g., 25% on Canada and Mexico, up to 50% on some nations), and sector-specific duties (e.g., 25% on steel and autos). As of April 4, 2025, less than three months into his term, concrete outcomes are still emerging, but early indicators, policy shifts, and sentiment from various stakeholders suggest several positive outcomes and potential benefits. Here’s an analysis based on available data and developments:

1. Increased Foreign Investment in U.S. Manufacturing

• Outcome: Trump’s tariff threats and actual impositions have spurred commitments for foreign investment in U.S.-based production to avoid duties. Posts on X and White House statements claim over $1 trillion in pledged investments since late 2024, though exact figures are unverified as of now.
• Evidence: Companies like Toyota and Volkswagen, facing 25% auto tariffs, have signaled plans to expand U.S. plants—Toyota reportedly eyeing a $2 billion facility in North Carolina by March 31, 2025, per industry buzz on X. The National Council of Textile Organizations (NCTO) praised the plan on April 3, noting it’s driving textile firms to reshore.
• Benefit: This could create jobs—potentially thousands in manufacturing—and reduce reliance on imports, aligning with Trump’s "America First" pitch. A 2024 study cited by the White House found first-term tariffs led to "significant reshoring" in steel and manufacturing, suggesting a repeatable effect.

2. Strengthened Leverage in Trade Negotiations

• Outcome: Tariffs have pressured trading partners to negotiate. Mexico deployed 10,000 troops to its borders by March 2025, and Canada tightened migrant checks after Trump’s 25% tariff orders in February, aiming to curb drugs and illegal crossings.
• Evidence: Colombia reversed its stance on accepting U.S. deportee flights within 10 hours of a tariff threat in March 2025, per CNN. The White House touts this as proof of tariffs’ coercive power, with Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt highlighting it on March 25.
• Benefit: Enhanced border security and reduced fentanyl inflows (e.g., precursor chemicals from China) could save lives—over 70,000 U.S. overdose deaths were linked to fentanyl in 2023. It also shifts some enforcement burden to neighbors, easing U.S. resources.

3. Boost to Domestic Industries

• Outcome: Protected sectors like steel and autos are seeing early gains. U.S. steel output rose 3% in Q1 2025 (projected), with companies like Nucor announcing $1.5 billion in upgrades by March 30, per industry reports.
• Evidence: The 25% steel tariff, expanded February 10, 2025, ended exemptions, spurring domestic production. X posts from business leaders (e.g.,

  @WhiteHouse

  , March 31) claim tariffs are "strengthening American companies," with auto parts firms in Ohio and Michigan reporting order upticks.
• Benefit: Job retention or growth in these sectors—steel added 1,800 jobs in Trump’s first term per a 2023 ITC report—could stabilize industrial heartlands. Higher domestic prices also pad producer profits, potentially funding innovation or wages.

4. Revenue Generation for Tax Relief

• Outcome: Tariffs are generating federal revenue, with early estimates suggesting $50–$70 billion collected by April 2025 from the 10% universal tariff (effective April 5) and higher rates on select countries.
• Evidence: The Tax Foundation projected a 10% tariff could raise $2 trillion over a decade; pro-rated, that’s $50 billion in three months, aligning with current trends. Trump’s team aims to use this for tax cuts, like no tax on tips or Social Security benefits, per White House statements.
• Benefit: This could offset income tax burdens for working families, boosting disposable income. A Peterson Institute brief estimated Trump’s tariff mix might yield $200 billion annually, offering fiscal flexibility if sustained.

5. Reduction in Trade Deficit (Preliminary)

• Outcome: The U.S. goods trade deficit, over $1 trillion in 2024, may be shrinking as imports drop. February 2025 imports fell 8% from January, per preliminary CBP data, partly due to tariff anticipation.
• Evidence: X posts (e.g.,

  @ExxAlerts

  , March 25) claim tariffs are "channeling trillions" to balance trade, though this exaggerates current scale. The 49% tariff on Cambodia and 46% on Vietnam (April 9) aim to erase deficits with "worst offenders," per Trump’s April 2 announcement.
• Benefit: A smaller deficit could strengthen the U.S. dollar and economic sovereignty, reducing dependence on foreign goods—a core Trump goal since his first term’s USMCA renegotiation.

[illisdean]

2 hours ago, phetphet said:

Golden shower? Oh! Is that why he looks orange?

lol....

 

 

[illisdean]

how ya doin....

 

 

[illisdean]

As Trump haters keep hating and hoping America fails under Trump in Biden like fashion....them boys down in MAGA work keep on rollin out.. All good unless you are a butt-hurt hater....lol

 

 

https://tippinsights.com/hello-tariffs-my-friend-trumps-trade-weapon-delivers-early-results/?ref=tippinsights-newsletter

 

 

[still kicking]

https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/9eb9ccc8aefa0367b274312a61ff9389 The iPhone 16 Pro Max. Picture: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images/AFP

Donald Trump’s tariffs could see the price of an iPhone hit $US2300 ($3650), according to analysts.

With most of the 220 million iPhones sold by Apple each year still being made in China, the 54 per cent total tariffs announced on Wednesday would leave the company with the difficult choice of absorbing the cost or passing the expense onto consumers.

That fact was not lost on investors, with Apple shares crashing 9.3 per cent on Thursday.

If Apple chooses to pass the cost on, consumer goods like iPhones would be hardest hit with increases of 30-40 per cent, according to a note on Thursday by Rosenblatt Securities,

[still kicking]

America’s spectacular own goal on beef tariff | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

[candide]

55 minutes ago, illisdean said:

how ya doin....

 

 

Trucks from the EU were already subject to 25% tariffs before Trump was elected.😆

[placeholder]

22 minutes ago, still kicking said:

https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/9eb9ccc8aefa0367b274312a61ff9389 The iPhone 16 Pro Max. Picture: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images/AFP

Donald Trump’s tariffs could see the price of an iPhone hit $US2300 ($3650), according to analysts.

With most of the 220 million iPhones sold by Apple each year still being made in China, the 54 per cent total tariffs announced on Wednesday would leave the company with the difficult choice of absorbing the cost or passing the expense onto consumers.

That fact was not lost on investors, with Apple shares crashing 9.3 per cent on Thursday.

If Apple chooses to pass the cost on, consumer goods like iPhones would be hardest hit with increases of 30-40 per cent, according to a note on Thursday by Rosenblatt Securities,

Samsung is makes more mobile phones than anyone else, including Apple. It's a good thing it's phones aren't manufactured in China but in Vietnam instead...

Vietnam is actually where Samsung phones are made, most of them anyway. Samsung's manufacturing facility is located in Vietnam's Thai Nguyen province where two factories are churning out smartphones, tablets and 

wearable devices. The company is in the process of adding another factory to the facility to further increase its production in the country.

https://www.sammobile.com/where-are-samsung-phones-made/

 

oh wait a minute...maybe not such a good thing...

 

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/politics/vietnam-regrets-us-s-decision-to-impose-46-tariffs-4869825.html

 

[candide]

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

 

Donald Trump’s tariff plan, implemented since his second term began on January 20, 2025, has introduced significant changes to U.S. trade policy, with a mix of reciprocal tariffs (e.g., 10% universal, 20% on the EU), targeted levies (e.g., 25% on Canada and Mexico, up to 50% on some nations), and sector-specific duties (e.g., 25% on steel and autos). As of April 4, 2025, less than three months into his term, concrete outcomes are still emerging, but early indicators, policy shifts, and sentiment from various stakeholders suggest several positive outcomes and potential benefits. Here’s an analysis based on available data and developments:

1. Increased Foreign Investment in U.S. Manufacturing

• Outcome: Trump’s tariff threats and actual impositions have spurred commitments for foreign investment in U.S.-based production to avoid duties. Posts on X and White House statements claim over $1 trillion in pledged investments since late 2024, though exact figures are unverified as of now.
• Evidence: Companies like Toyota and Volkswagen, facing 25% auto tariffs, have signaled plans to expand U.S. plants—Toyota reportedly eyeing a $2 billion facility in North Carolina by March 31, 2025, per industry buzz on X. The National Council of Textile Organizations (NCTO) praised the plan on April 3, noting it’s driving textile firms to reshore.
• Benefit: This could create jobs—potentially thousands in manufacturing—and reduce reliance on imports, aligning with Trump’s "America First" pitch. A 2024 study cited by the White House found first-term tariffs led to "significant reshoring" in steel and manufacturing, suggesting a repeatable effect.

2. Strengthened Leverage in Trade Negotiations

• Outcome: Tariffs have pressured trading partners to negotiate. Mexico deployed 10,000 troops to its borders by March 2025, and Canada tightened migrant checks after Trump’s 25% tariff orders in February, aiming to curb drugs and illegal crossings.
• Evidence: Colombia reversed its stance on accepting U.S. deportee flights within 10 hours of a tariff threat in March 2025, per CNN. The White House touts this as proof of tariffs’ coercive power, with Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt highlighting it on March 25.
• Benefit: Enhanced border security and reduced fentanyl inflows (e.g., precursor chemicals from China) could save lives—over 70,000 U.S. overdose deaths were linked to fentanyl in 2023. It also shifts some enforcement burden to neighbors, easing U.S. resources.

3. Boost to Domestic Industries

• Outcome: Protected sectors like steel and autos are seeing early gains. U.S. steel output rose 3% in Q1 2025 (projected), with companies like Nucor announcing $1.5 billion in upgrades by March 30, per industry reports.
• Evidence: The 25% steel tariff, expanded February 10, 2025, ended exemptions, spurring domestic production. X posts from business leaders (e.g.,

  @WhiteHouse

  , March 31) claim tariffs are "strengthening American companies," with auto parts firms in Ohio and Michigan reporting order upticks.
• Benefit: Job retention or growth in these sectors—steel added 1,800 jobs in Trump’s first term per a 2023 ITC report—could stabilize industrial heartlands. Higher domestic prices also pad producer profits, potentially funding innovation or wages.

4. Revenue Generation for Tax Relief

• Outcome: Tariffs are generating federal revenue, with early estimates suggesting $50–$70 billion collected by April 2025 from the 10% universal tariff (effective April 5) and higher rates on select countries.
• Evidence: The Tax Foundation projected a 10% tariff could raise $2 trillion over a decade; pro-rated, that’s $50 billion in three months, aligning with current trends. Trump’s team aims to use this for tax cuts, like no tax on tips or Social Security benefits, per White House statements.
• Benefit: This could offset income tax burdens for working families, boosting disposable income. A Peterson Institute brief estimated Trump’s tariff mix might yield $200 billion annually, offering fiscal flexibility if sustained.

5. Reduction in Trade Deficit (Preliminary)

• Outcome: The U.S. goods trade deficit, over $1 trillion in 2024, may be shrinking as imports drop. February 2025 imports fell 8% from January, per preliminary CBP data, partly due to tariff anticipation.
• Evidence: X posts (e.g.,

  @ExxAlerts

  , March 25) claim tariffs are "channeling trillions" to balance trade, though this exaggerates current scale. The 49% tariff on Cambodia and 46% on Vietnam (April 9) aim to erase deficits with "worst offenders," per Trump’s April 2 announcement.
• Benefit: A smaller deficit could strengthen the U.S. dollar and economic sovereignty, reducing dependence on foreign goods—a core Trump goal since his first term’s USMCA renegotiation.

In the MAGA alternate universe, with evidence from X tweets! 🤣

[candide]

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

lol....

 

 

That's certainly not the reason why Trump approval ratings are worsening....😆

 

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating

[frank83628]

47 minutes ago, still kicking said:

America’s spectacular own goal on beef tariff | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

Leading news site isnt a proof of merit...CNN is a US leading neWS site, they are literally fake news, as are all MSM, they are for dim sheep & low info seekers like yourself.. 🤡 show basically

[illisdean]

How ya doin....Trumps tariff boog-a-loo is tearing it up globally big time. What an outstanding tactician. More WINNING for Trump. 

 

 

[illisdean]

Would y'all have a look at that!

 

 

[Cryingdick]

On 4/3/2025 at 11:04 AM, Wongkitlo said:

Norfolk Island is a dependent territory of Australia. It has been hit with 29% tarriff. It does not even have a port and access is virtually by air only. It's population of 2000 people  are shocked at the impact on their enormous export market. 

 

Do they have any plans to retaliate?

[Cryingdick]

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

 

Donald Trump’s tariff plan, implemented since his second term began on January 20, 2025, has introduced significant changes to U.S. trade policy, with a mix of reciprocal tariffs (e.g., 10% universal, 20% on the EU), targeted levies (e.g., 25% on Canada and Mexico, up to 50% on some nations), and sector-specific duties (e.g., 25% on steel and autos). As of April 4, 2025, less than three months into his term, concrete outcomes are still emerging, but early indicators, policy shifts, and sentiment from various stakeholders suggest several positive outcomes and potential benefits. Here’s an analysis based on available data and developments:

1. Increased Foreign Investment in U.S. Manufacturing

• Outcome: Trump’s tariff threats and actual impositions have spurred commitments for foreign investment in U.S.-based production to avoid duties. Posts on X and White House statements claim over $1 trillion in pledged investments since late 2024, though exact figures are unverified as of now.
• Evidence: Companies like Toyota and Volkswagen, facing 25% auto tariffs, have signaled plans to expand U.S. plants—Toyota reportedly eyeing a $2 billion facility in North Carolina by March 31, 2025, per industry buzz on X. The National Council of Textile Organizations (NCTO) praised the plan on April 3, noting it’s driving textile firms to reshore.
• Benefit: This could create jobs—potentially thousands in manufacturing—and reduce reliance on imports, aligning with Trump’s "America First" pitch. A 2024 study cited by the White House found first-term tariffs led to "significant reshoring" in steel and manufacturing, suggesting a repeatable effect.

2. Strengthened Leverage in Trade Negotiations

• Outcome: Tariffs have pressured trading partners to negotiate. Mexico deployed 10,000 troops to its borders by March 2025, and Canada tightened migrant checks after Trump’s 25% tariff orders in February, aiming to curb drugs and illegal crossings.
• Evidence: Colombia reversed its stance on accepting U.S. deportee flights within 10 hours of a tariff threat in March 2025, per CNN. The White House touts this as proof of tariffs’ coercive power, with Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt highlighting it on March 25.
• Benefit: Enhanced border security and reduced fentanyl inflows (e.g., precursor chemicals from China) could save lives—over 70,000 U.S. overdose deaths were linked to fentanyl in 2023. It also shifts some enforcement burden to neighbors, easing U.S. resources.

3. Boost to Domestic Industries

• Outcome: Protected sectors like steel and autos are seeing early gains. U.S. steel output rose 3% in Q1 2025 (projected), with companies like Nucor announcing $1.5 billion in upgrades by March 30, per industry reports.
• Evidence: The 25% steel tariff, expanded February 10, 2025, ended exemptions, spurring domestic production. X posts from business leaders (e.g.,

  @WhiteHouse

  , March 31) claim tariffs are "strengthening American companies," with auto parts firms in Ohio and Michigan reporting order upticks.
• Benefit: Job retention or growth in these sectors—steel added 1,800 jobs in Trump’s first term per a 2023 ITC report—could stabilize industrial heartlands. Higher domestic prices also pad producer profits, potentially funding innovation or wages.

4. Revenue Generation for Tax Relief

• Outcome: Tariffs are generating federal revenue, with early estimates suggesting $50–$70 billion collected by April 2025 from the 10% universal tariff (effective April 5) and higher rates on select countries.
• Evidence: The Tax Foundation projected a 10% tariff could raise $2 trillion over a decade; pro-rated, that’s $50 billion in three months, aligning with current trends. Trump’s team aims to use this for tax cuts, like no tax on tips or Social Security benefits, per White House statements.
• Benefit: This could offset income tax burdens for working families, boosting disposable income. A Peterson Institute brief estimated Trump’s tariff mix might yield $200 billion annually, offering fiscal flexibility if sustained.

5. Reduction in Trade Deficit (Preliminary)

• Outcome: The U.S. goods trade deficit, over $1 trillion in 2024, may be shrinking as imports drop. February 2025 imports fell 8% from January, per preliminary CBP data, partly due to tariff anticipation.
• Evidence: X posts (e.g.,

  @ExxAlerts

  , March 25) claim tariffs are "channeling trillions" to balance trade, though this exaggerates current scale. The 49% tariff on Cambodia and 46% on Vietnam (April 9) aim to erase deficits with "worst offenders," per Trump’s April 2 announcement.
• Benefit: A smaller deficit could strengthen the U.S. dollar and economic sovereignty, reducing dependence on foreign goods—a core Trump goal since his first term’s USMCA renegotiation.

 

Please cit you used AI. No human being types like this on forums.

[illisdean]

I smell a classic FAFO about to bust out on the french knucklehead.