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To understand where Karma comes from, there is an underlying philosophy that must be understood. This is the concept that something comes from nothing and nothing comes from something. You may disagree with this thought because it goes against everything you understand, and that’s alright! 

 

https://medium.com/@george_pags/karma-is-scientifically-proven-4815ad4f162b

 

Discussed here.

 

Have you experienced it?

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Karma happens to some, but many get away with wrong doings and bad behavior until they die. That they will pay for it afterwards, believing that God has a plan for everything, has many going into the afterlife after a life of evil, not knowing or caring what happens next. Countless examples of people practicing evil and dying of old age happens, and some experience karma right away, so the only way karma is proven is that there is life after death, and those that live wrong will see it then.

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9 minutes ago, JackGats said:

Karma is not real but it is easier and more soothing for people to understand than quantum physics.

Quantum physics is the epitome of karma, with every action there’s a reaction. It’s all karma or whatever one wants to call it, it’s everywhere in everything…there’s no escape. Most just don’t realize it.

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2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

To understand where Karma comes from, there is an underlying philosophy that must be understood. This is the concept that something comes from nothing and nothing comes from something. You may disagree with this thought because it goes against everything you understand, and that’s alright! 

 

https://medium.com/@george_pags/karma-is-scientifically-proven-4815ad4f162b

 

Discussed here.

 

Have you experienced it?

 

Karma is absolutely real.

 

I know, because I have experienced it.

 

The universe keeps score, and nobody can escape. Call it Karma, call it divine justice, whatever you like. It's real af.

 

Now as a man is like this or like that,
according as he acts and according as he behaves, so will he be;
a man of good acts will become good, a man of bad acts, bad;
he becomes pure by pure deeds, bad by bad deeds;

And here they say that a person consists of desires,
and as is his desire, so is his will;
and as is his will, so is his deed;
and whatever deed he does, that he will reap.

 
Long before the bible told you "Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.", the Indians already knew this long ago. 
 
Karma is real.
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4 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

karma-is-scientifically-proven

I won't bother reading that.  But it's good for a laugh. 

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4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

If you are nice to people they are nice back etc that's my idea of karma

Yep. For the most part. It's the intention.  ❤️

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5 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

To understand where Karma comes from, there is an underlying philosophy that must be understood. This is the concept that something comes from nothing and nothing comes from something. You may disagree with this thought because it goes against everything you understand, and that’s alright! 

 

https://medium.com/@george_pags/karma-is-scientifically-proven-4815ad4f162b

 

Discussed here.

 

Have you experienced it?

Actually your statement isn't on point.   

Karma, a Sanskrit word meaning "action," refers to the principle of cause and effect, where our actions, driven by intention, lead to consequences, shaping our future experiences, often in the context of rebirth. 
 
Here's a more detailed explanation:
  • Intention is Key:
    In many traditions, it's not just the action itself, but the intention behind it that determines the nature of the karma. 
     
  • Not Punishment, but Learning:
    Some interpretations of karma emphasize that it's not about punishment, but rather a natural law of cause and effect, providing opportunities for growth and learning. 
     
  • Samsara and Rebirth:
    In some belief systems, karma plays a crucial role in the cycle of rebirth (samsara), where past actions influence the nature of future lives. 
     
  • Different Interpretations:
    While the core concept of karma as action and consequence is widely understood, different traditions and philosophies offer varying interpretations of its nature and scope. 
     
  • Hinduism:
    In Hinduism, karma is divided into three types: Sanchita (accumulated karma), Prarabdha (karma experienced in the present life), and Kriyamana (karma created in the present life). 
     
  • Buddhism:
    In Buddhism, karma is seen as a force that shapes the cycle of rebirth, with good actions leading to positive outcomes and bad actions leading to negative outcomes. 
     
  • Jainism:
    Jainism views karma as a fine particulate substance that settles upon the soul (jiva) according to the deeds a person does, adding to the burden until the soul is freed through religious disciplines. 
     
  • The Core Concept:
    Karma is essentially the idea that every action, thought, and word has a consequence, and these consequences, both positive and negative, will return to the individual. 
     
 
 
 
 
 
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It's a nonsense, the same as heaven and hell to keep the dim witted in their place. There is zero evidence for Karma, but plenty of evidence against it

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5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Karma happens to some, but many get away with wrong doings and bad behavior until they die.

My favorite line from devout Christians.  "Christian's aren't perfect, we're just forgiven."  

I love the essence of the Get Out Of Hell Jail Free Card. :thumbsup:  I could never reconcile that as a kid, or a young man, or as an adult. But my Christian friends really believe that. 
:biggrin: "I can cheat, lie, steal, and kill, but if I say the magic words, I'm forgiven.  Then I can do it all again!" :thumbsup:

Ultimately there are no consequences for bad actions according to my Christian friends and family, just say the magical words and Big Daddy In The Sky has got your back. Every one else?  "Straight To Hell!"  No wonder Buddhism appeals to me.

Action - Consequences
Good actions - good outcomes
Bad actions - bad outcomes
Neutral actions - neutral outcomes


There's nothing personal about it, no Big Daddy In The Sky or Bad Uncle In The Ground who are out to get 'cha.  Just your own choices and the good, bad, or neutral consequences.  And you don't even have to believe.  ❤️  :thumbsup:

Of course, according to my Christian friends, family and acquaintances, no matter how good, kind, or compassionate I may be - :angry: It's Straight To Hell For You Buddhist Idolator.  Personally I'm not a fan of all the idols in Buddhism, but I won't say The Christian Magical Words With Conviction!  Hence "Straight To Hell And The Fiery Gates Of Perdition For You Buddhist Heretic!"  I probably have latent scars on the backs of my hand and a permanent indentation in my cheek, the former from Sister Mary Margaret's ruler and the latter from Bishop Welsh's Curve-Ball, Side-Arm Wind-Up, Palm-Pitch To The Face during the loving and holy Sacrament of Confirmation when I was a kid. The guy rocked my head back so hard my dad had to be restrained. Needless to say, Buddhism sort of became more in focus for me in those younger days of my youth as from that point on I considered Christianity to be a rather violence-prone oddity that I had little interest in following no matter how many people threatened me with "You're Gonna Go Straight To Hell - STRAIGHT TO HELL!" 

Karma dictates that is probably an incorrect assumption by those wielding the threats and who have a tendency toward feeling they can do no wrong because - "I'm forgiven unlike you, you Buddhist Heathen, and - You're Going Straight To Hell!" 

My response?  "Actions Have Consequences."

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6 hours ago, novacova said:

Quantum physics is the epitome of karma, with every action there’s a reaction. It’s all karma or whatever one wants to call it, it’s everywhere in everything…there’s no escape. Most just don’t realize it.

I'm a fan of "Schrödinger's Karma.

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29 minutes ago, connda said:

My favorite line from devout Christians.  "Christian's aren't perfect, we're just forgiven."  

I love the essence of the Get Out Of Hell Jail Free Card. :thumbsup:  I could never reconcile that as a kid, or a young man, or as an adult. But my Christian friends really believe that. 
:biggrin: "I can cheat, lie, steal, and kill, but if I say the magic words, I'm forgiven.  Then I can do it all again!" :thumbsup:

Ultimately there are no consequences for bad actions according to my Christian friends and family, just say the magical words and Big Daddy In The Sky has got your back. Every one else?  "Straight To Hell!"  No wonder Buddhism appeals to me.

Action - Consequences
Good actions - good outcomes
Bad actions - bad outcomes
Neutral actions - neutral outcomes


There's nothing personal about it, no Big Daddy In The Sky or Bad Uncle In The Ground who are out to get 'cha.  Just your own choices and the good, bad, or neutral consequences.  And you don't even have to believe.  ❤️  :thumbsup:

Of course, according to my Christian friends, family and acquaintances, no matter how good, kind, or compassionate I may be - :angry: It's Straight To Hell For You Buddhist Idolator.  Personally I'm not a fan of all the idols in Buddhism, but I won't say The Christian Magical Words With Conviction!  Hence "Straight To Hell And The Fiery Gates Of Perdition For You Buddhist Heretic!"  I probably have latent scars on the backs of my hand and a permanent indentation in my cheek, the former from Sister Mary Margaret's ruler and the latter from Bishop Welsh's Curve-Ball, Side-Arm Wind-Up, Palm-Pitch To The Face during the loving and holy Sacrament of Confirmation when I was a kid. The guy rocked my head back so hard my dad had to be restrained. Needless to say, Buddhism sort of became more in focus for me in those younger days of my youth as from that point on I considered Christianity to be a rather violence-prone oddity that I had little interest in following no matter how many people threatened me with "You're Gonna Go Straight To Hell - STRAIGHT TO HELL!" 

Karma dictates that is probably an incorrect assumption by those wielding the threats and who have a tendency toward feeling they can do no wrong because - "I'm forgiven unlike you, you Buddhist Heathen, and - You're Going Straight To Hell!" 

My response?  "Actions Have Consequences."

The thing about that is, God knows your heart. If you know you did wrong, and want forgiveness, you'll get it. You can't fool someone who's created the universe from his mind. I also had a Sister Mary Margaret in Catholic school, but she was the principal and didn't hit the students, although other nuns and lay teachers sure did. I know Catholicism is a little too much, praying to saints and the money involved, so I just look at myself as a Christian. I'm not sure just how much is real or not, but not turning my back on him is the main thing.

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6 hours ago, JackGats said:

Karma is not real but it is easier and more soothing for people to understand than quantum physics.

You ought to write to the Buddhist monk Pra Ajahn Brahm. He was a theoretical physicist before becoming a life-long Theravada monk.  It would probably be an interesting conversation. He will on occasion draw on quantum mechanics to highlight Buddhist philosophy.  Others include Dr. David Levey who holds a PhD in Quantum Field Theory and Dr. Fritjof Capra who holds a PhD in Quantum Mechanics.  Dr Levey ordained as a Buddhist monk in 2018 after his career. 

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1 hour ago, proton said:

It's a nonsense, the same as heaven and hell to keep the dim witted in their place. There is zero evidence for Karma, but plenty of evidence against it

I ❤️ Nihilists. It's so easy. Life has no meaning other than the pleasures of the senses.  When that gets boring, put a gun to your head and pull the trigger. Personally I'm happy to let everyone believe whatever they wish to believe, or not believe. As they say here in the LOS - "Up To You!"

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8 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Karma happens to some, but many get away with wrong doings and bad behavior until they die. That they will pay for it afterwards, believing that God has a plan for everything, has many going into the afterlife after a life of evil, not knowing or caring what happens next. Countless examples of people practicing evil and dying of old age happens, and some experience karma right away, so the only way karma is proven is that there is life after death, and those that live wrong will see it then.

There is no god.

 

The Don.

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8 hours ago, novacova said:

Quantum physics is the epitome of karma, with every action there’s a reaction. It’s all karma or whatever one wants to call it, it’s everywhere in everything…there’s no escape. Most just don’t realize it.

Oh my!

 

Someone equates something like telling a lie by an entity with a trillion cells, each made up a trillions of atomic particles, with the action of a subatomic particle in a quantum field.

 

Quick! Call Schrodinger and Durac and Heisenberg and Planck and Feynman and tell them an AN poster says they're wrong.

 

All those unearned Nobels. The horror!

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