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18 minutes ago, koolkarl said:

I have never read that 1 terrorist was killed,, always women and children and news people.  Isn't this called one sided propaganda?

You’ve obviously not been reading the reports from both sides in this war.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

@Nick Carter icp 

 

I think we both understand that expelling them from the land was always the plan.

Continuously building settlements, bulldozing Palestinian olive groves. There has always been that kind of 'collective punishment' as long as I can remember....and always the attempt to blame the Palestinians for all ills.

 

 

 

   We are talking about Gaza . 

You have changed that to talking about Judea .

Jews are building settlements in Judea , not Gaza

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Posted
21 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

- Israel agrees to begin talks on a two-state solution.

 

The Israel-Palestine conflict has seen several proposals for a two-state solution over the decades. The idea generally envisions a sovereign State of Israel alongside a sovereign State of Palestine, but the proposals have varied greatly in terms of borders, security, refugees, and the status of Jerusalem. Below is a summary of the most significant offers and rejections - The rejections have mainly been from the Arab side.

 

 

1947 – UN Partition Plan (Resolution 181)

Offered by: United Nations

Accepted by: Jewish leadership

Rejected by: Arab states and Palestinian Arab leadership

Details: Proposed partition of British Mandate Palestine into Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem under international control.

Outcome: Arabs rejected the plan; war broke out in 1948 following Israel’s declaration of independence.

 

1993 – Oslo Accords

Offered by: Negotiated between Israel (PM Rabin) and the PLO (Yasser Arafat)

Accepted by: Both parties

Details: Set up a framework for limited Palestinian self-governance and a process towards a permanent solution.

Outcome: Partial implementation, but no final status agreement; peace process stalled amid violence and mutual distrust.

 

2000 – Camp David Summit

Offered by: Israel (PM Ehud Barak) with US mediation (President Clinton)

Rejected by: Yasser Arafat (PLO)

Details: Included a Palestinian state in Gaza and most of the West Bank, shared Jerusalem, and land swaps.

Arafat's Concerns: No full control over East Jerusalem, inadequate land swap, and no right of return for refugees.

Outcome: Talks failed; Second Intifada began shortly after.

 

2001 – Taba Talks

Offered by: Israel and PLO (continued negotiations)

Accepted in principle by both, but negotiations were cut short

Details: Came closer to agreement than Camp David. Both sides acknowledged progress, but Israeli elections and political changes ended the talks.

 

2008 – Olmert Offer

Offered by: Israeli PM Ehud Olmert

Not formally accepted or rejected by: Mahmoud Abbas (PA President)

Details: Offered ~94% of the West Bank, land swaps, a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem, and international administration of holy sites.

Abbas's Reason for Delay: Wanted clarifications and maps, political concerns, and internal division.

Outcome: No formal response; talks collapsed with Olmert leaving office.

 

 

2020 – Trump Peace Plan ("Deal of the Century")

Offered by: US (Trump administration)

Accepted by: Israel

Rejected by: Palestinians

Details: Proposed limited Palestinian statehood with Israeli control over security, settlements, and Jerusalem.

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@Nick Carter icp

 

Can you add some substance to your post?

 

What is this nonsense?

 

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 Its strange  then that the  Israeli Jews gave Palestinians  Muslims full equal citizenship with Israeli passports , then isn't it 

 

Erm...wouldn't the people to whom you are referring be more accurately called; Israeli Arabs?

 

To which Palestinians  Muslims are you referring?

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7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:
13 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Sounds like genocide to me, which is precisely what the Jews have wanted to do to the Palestinian Muslims for over 70 years... 😞

 

   Its strange  then that the  Israeli Jews gave Palestinians  Muslims full equal citizenship with Israeli passports , then isn't it .

It's also strange to me that Israeli Jews are not persecuting and taking homes away from the Palestinian Muslim "full citizens" in the West Bank, and that over the past 70 years, Israel has taken (by force) much of the land in Palestine that was not given to it by the UN. 

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6 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Sounds like genocide to me, which is precisely what the Jews have wanted to do to the Palestinian Muslims for over 70 years... 😞

That’s a huge exaggerated misrepresentation of reality.

 

There absolutely are extremists within Israel and amongst Israel’s supporters who have voiced opinions calling for acts that would be genocide, but they are a rabid minority and by no means any kind of majority.

 

 

https://theconversation.com/in-israel-calls-for-genocide-have-migrated-from-the-margins-to-the-mainstream-250010

 

https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org

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4 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

@Nick Carter icp

 

Can you add some substance to your post?

What is this nonsense?

Erm...wouldn't the people to whom you are referring be more accurately called; Israeli Arabs?

To which Palestinians  Muslims are you referring?

 

    You chopped my post in half to give it a different meaning,  you should know that that's against forum rules to do that .

   Then you claimed that half my post doesn't make sense , but it makes sense if you didn't chop it in half 

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@SMIAI please use the quote button when replying to another member instead of pinging them with their user name. It creates confusion and a disjointed reply that can lead to bickering in addition to not quoting their full in context post which is against forum rules.

 

Comment on moderation from the same poster also removed.

 

This topic is not about the West Bank.

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13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Its worth pointing out that Jewishvoiceforpeace are a left wing pro Palestinians anti Zionist group who accepts anyone as member .

   .jewishvoiceforpeace. is an Anti Zionist organisation that anyone can join 

Worth pointing out so there's no confusion  

Nevertheless it is an example that contradicts the extreme hyperbole in the post I responded to.

 

There are others:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/world/middleeast/israelis-palestinians-peace-activists.html

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