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Kremlin Spy Chief Warns of ‘Preemptive’ Moves Against NATO Amid Rising Tensions


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I'd say that most politicians and the majority of global citizens want WWIII.  Why not. It's a Fourth Turning.  Gonna happen soon enough.  So? 

Game On!  

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1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Ludicrous. Russia has shown precisely zero interest in the Baltics. 

 

Why would they want them anyway.

 

What a nonsense.

Talking about nonsense...

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1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

Ever heard of Kaliningrad?

Clearly you mean Königsberg. Which was annexed in 1945. Obviously we are talking of 2025. Not 1945. Putin has showed no signs whatsoever of being interested in the Baltics. 

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1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

Ever heard of Kaliningrad?

Yes. Former Konigsberg. Nice city. Unfortunately not as nice as pre-WWII.

Some goes to Danzig.

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6 hours ago, Tug said:

I agree wholeheartedly with jimhuahin with the profound weakness shown by trump and his simpering hero worship of Mr putin acting more as an asset to the Russian federation than a nato member could certainly lead putin to think the time is neigh.with this caveat Ukraine the brave nation and her heroic peoples have weakened Russia.this and the continued support from the EU perhaps will stay his hand.in my view putin will endeavor to exterminate Ukraine and her people before taking on NATO.

It's time for the lazy Europeans to deal with issues in their backyard.  

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6 hours ago, Tug said:

I agree wholeheartedly with jimhuahin with the profound weakness shown by trump and his simpering hero worship of Mr putin acting more as an asset to the Russian federation than a nato member could certainly lead putin to think the time is neigh.with this caveat Ukraine the brave nation and her heroic peoples have weakened Russia.this and the continued support from the EU perhaps will stay his hand.in my view putin will endeavor to exterminate Ukraine and her people before taking on NATO.

 

 

Technically he won't be taking on NATO, just Europe. SHAPE is always headed by a US flag officer. But he reports to his President, not to any European leader. At best, there will be hesitation, while the SHAPE commander awaits a response from Washington. Worst case wargame scenario is that Russia can take the Baltic states in 36 hours (Rand Corp estimate). And then Russia controls the Baltic States. What then? How do you make the Russians leave? Fight them, and probably destroy those countries in the process. Sanctions? Open a new front?

 

The casus belli for Russia would be to secure a corridor to Kalingrad, maybe in the middle of winter.  They then lay effective siege to the Baltics. Support from Finland across the the Gulf of Finland will be difficult. Logistically, it would be difficult for NATO  to get supplies to Helsinki except by air; the roads are not great in winter. They wuld be having to contest the Baltic for freedom of navigation. Russia might demand removal of NATO forces in return of safe passage. The position of the Baltic states has always been tenuous. A bellicose Poland might respond, trying to take back Polish territory (and no doubt the internet will be full of experts pointing out these areas were never really Polish, and Poland isn;t a real country anyhow), but the Americans have all just pulled out of Poland. Who has their backs?

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He should just stick to trying to beat Ukraine into submission ,

before trying to take on NATO and rest of Europe  ,a NATO 

without our American friends I suppose ...

 

regards Worgeordie

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4 hours ago, worgeordie said:

He should just stick to trying to beat Ukraine into submission ,

before trying to take on NATO and rest of Europe  ,a NATO 

without our American friends I suppose ...

 

regards Worgeordie

 

Thing is, he's not planning to take on NATO and the rest of Europe. Just the 11,000 or so NATO troops already in the Baltic States. He's banking on achieving a fait accompli before NATO can react. That will mean he will need 30-40,000 Russian and Belarus troops. His assumption is that once the Baltics have gone, NATO will sue for peace. He might even send out some message assuring people in Western Europe this is just a limited operation in response to Russia's justified aims. Many won't buy that message, but enough will to cause hesitation.

 

If the Baltic states fall, then they won't be captured back. SO the key is if NATO get notice of Russian build up. And that's dependant on thr AWAC patrols. The is whether the US will continue to support AWAC patrols, or if they continue to share data. The data collected is fed back to the US, analysed, and spat back out again.

 

When the US stopped providing Ukraine with Intel, RAF Rivet Joint aircraft were stll flying, still capturing data, and the UK was still feeding data to Ukraine. But the data that was sent was more raw, because of the block imposed by Washington. Ukraine's artillary accuracy declined by 5-10%, similarly air to ground targets.

 

The key to defending the Baltics is not piling in loads of extra troops, but how NATO fights a war, which is to say, NATO fights very efficiently. Every shot literally counts. To achieve that takes data, a lot of it.

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5 hours ago, worgeordie said:

He should just stick to trying to beat Ukraine into submission ,

before trying to take on NATO and rest of Europe  ,a NATO 

without our American friends I suppose ...

 

regards Worgeordie

Too late. Seems Trump gave up on UA, or bluffing with a pocket face. Obviously He won't get even $100K back. No way: ports, infrastructure and obviously not that ridiculous rare earth elements deal.

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8 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

So true.....these incidents were just a bit of larking about.......

 

1. 

Cyberattacks (e.g., Estonia, 2007)

Estonia was hit by a massive wave of cyberattacks in 2007, which targeted government, banking, and media websites. These attacks followed a decision to relocate a Soviet-era war memorial, and though Russia denied involvement, evidence pointed to state-sponsored actors or Kremlin-aligned groups.

 

2. 

Airspace Violations and Military Provocations

Russian military aircraft have repeatedly violated Baltic airspace, prompting NATO jets to scramble regularly. Russian naval activity in the Baltic Sea is also closely monitored and has caused concern due to aggressive maneuvers.

Russia has held military exercises near the Baltic borders that simulate scenarios involving conflict with NATO forces, which is seen as threatening by Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

 

3. 

Disinformation and Hybrid Tactics

Russia has used disinformation campaigns to stir ethnic tensions, particularly in Estonia and Latvia, where there are sizable Russian-speaking minorities.

Russian media and online platforms have attempted to undermine trust in democratic institutions and sow division within these countries.

 

4. 

Economic Pressure

Russia has at times used energy supply manipulation or trade restrictions as a form of pressure, although the Baltic states have worked hard to reduce dependence on Russian energy since the 2000s.

 

5. 

Political Threats and Rhetoric

Russian officials have made statements that question the legitimacy of NATO’s presence in the Baltics or that suggest the Baltics are part of Russia’s “sphere of influence.”

There’s been frequent rhetoric in Russian media implying the Baltic states are hostile or even Nazi-sympathetic, especially in the context of their WWII history.

 

6. 

Response to NATO Expansion

Russia has strongly opposed NATO’s military presence in the Baltic region, viewing it as a threat. NATO battlegroups have been stationed in the Baltics since 2017 to deter aggression, which Moscow frames as “encirclement.”

 

How do you not die of embarassment posting claptrap like this, is what I'd like to know.

 

Because there was a cyberattack on Estonia, for which there is not a shred of evidence mind you that it was the Russian government, Putin intends to invade Estonia? 

 

So I guess China intends to invade the US then? Since there were Chinese cyberattacks on the USA?

 

I mean seriously, how do you get out of bed in the morning?

 

Trade restrictions? So the US is basically going to invade the entire world then? I mean I literally cannot believe you would post such flimsy transparent non-evidence.

 

Again the question is does Russia intend to invade the Baltics? The resounding clear answer is "NO". There is absolutely zero chance.

 

Airspace violations? So Russia is also planning to invade England and Scotland then? I mean do you actually believe the utter drivel that you write? This is what I'd like to know.

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40 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

No, just Canada and Greenland and Panama and Syria and Iran and Mexico and Cuba and Yemen and......and that's just this month!

 

So not the entire wold then.

 

Okay.

 

 

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