Trump has finally met his match as he fights 3 unwinnable wars

[simple1]

Interesting OP...

 

It was bound to happen.

Encouraged by the ease with which many big American institutions have caved in to their demands, the Trump regime — that is, the small cadre of bottom-feeding fanatics around Trump (Vance, Musk, Vought, Miller, and RFK Jr.) along with the child king himself — have overreached.

 

 

Trump has finally met his match as he fights 3 unwinnable wars | Opinion

[FlorC]

3 unwinnable wars ??

 

3 unwinnable wars ? More like 3 battles , which he may win , at least one of them.

[rough diamond]

A competent President would not have to face such battles/wars. 

[jerrymahoney]

NY Times headline now:

 

Supreme Court, for Now, Blocks Deportations of Venezuelan Migrants
Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel A. Alito Jr. dissented

 

 

[bannork]

The Trump administration on Thursday announced new fees on Chinese-built and Chinese-owned ships docking at U.S. ports. The fees are part of a broader effort to weaken China's dominance in shipbuilding and maritime transport, after U.S. trade officials concluded that China’s shipbuilding sector benefited from unfair competitive advantages.

Chinese-run ships will face charges of $50 per net ton on each trip to the United States beginning in mid-October. That will increase to $140 in three years. Additionally, even non-Chinese carriers using ships built by that country face fees of $18 initially, and that, too, will rise.

"Because Chinese ships make up a large and growing share of the global fleet, carriers will invariably pass on the costs to customers," the Wall Street Journal warned,  "None of this industrial policy is likely to make American shipbuilding great again. Like the tariffs, they will be a deadweight on the U.S. economy."

'Deadweight on the economy': WSJ's conservative editors warn Trump 'whacking' Americans

 

[KhunLA]

Any luck, and a couple of those ol' farts will retire, and Trump or maybe Vance will get to pick the next ones 

[bannork]

'Complete meltdown': Top Pentagon staffers fired as 'chaos' engulfs Hegseth’s inner circle

Politico reported Friday that three senior Pentagon officials have now been fired as part of the leak investigation: Hegseth senior advisor Dan Caldwell, deputy chief of staff Darin Selnick and Colin Carroll — who was Deputy Defense Secretary Stephen Feinberg's chief of staff — have all been officially terminated. 

Additional firings may be announced soon. According to CBS senior White House reporter Jennifer Jacobs, "at least one uniformed Pentagon official" was also fired in addition to Hegseth's top aides.

 

[rough diamond]

4 minutes ago, bannork said:

The Trump administration on Thursday announced new fees on Chinese-built and Chinese-owned ships docking at U.S. ports. The fees are part of a broader effort to weaken China's dominance in shipbuilding and maritime transport, after U.S. trade officials concluded that China’s shipbuilding sector benefited from unfair competitive advantages.

Chinese-run ships will face charges of $50 per net ton on each trip to the United States beginning in mid-October. That will increase to $140 in three years. Additionally, even non-Chinese carriers using ships built by that country face fees of $18 initially, and that, too, will rise.

"Because Chinese ships make up a large and growing share of the global fleet, carriers will invariably pass on the costs to customers," the Wall Street Journal warned,  "None of this industrial policy is likely to make American shipbuilding great again. Like the tariffs, they will be a deadweight on the U.S. economy."

'Deadweight on the economy': WSJ's conservative editors warn Trump 'whacking' Americans

 

One thing is for sure is that there is NO point in any country retaliating with tariffs against US built merchant ships as there are virtually none.

Too few shipyards and skilled workforce in the US now.

 

[worgeordie]

All this crap and chaos that trump is creating , is this the "2025" ,that

trump said he knew nothing about ,and didn't want to ,and what is his

strategy to get out of it ,does he even have one  🤡

 

regards worgeordie

[Cameroni]

Lol, another opinion piece. From MSN no less.

 

China is going down, on her knees. China will kneel before America. And beg for mercy.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Lol, another opinion piece. From MSN no less.

 

China is going down, on her knees. China will kneel before America. And beg for mercy.

 

Bit like you did with your Filipino gf?

[impulse]

Aren't you guys betting against Trump tired of losing? 

 

For years, you've been betting he'll be in prison for Jan6.  Then it was NYC and 34 felonies.  Then it was Georgia.  And then when you lost those bets, you doubled down again on "he'll lose the election".

 

Now you're betting he'll lose the trade war. (Which has been going on for decades- he just decided to quit bending over)    I'd gladly take the other side of that bet, even though I disagree on a lot of his tariff rhetoric.  But not his goals.

 

[Lacessit]

IIRC military doctrine says never fight a war on two fronts. Trump has chosen three.

 

US trade is only 12% of China's trade worldwide. It is also reaching out to other nations who are questioning whether alliances with the USA are worth anything.

 

Trump lost the last trade war with China, when the US trade was 18%. The fact he thinks he can win a second round is a measure of his delusion.

[Cameroni]

27 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Bit like you did with your Filipino gf?

She actually did that with me. Literally begged on her knees not to throw her out. Kissed my feet. Submitted sexually in many ways. Just so she could stay in Cayman with me. All of for nothing in the end. Poor girl. 

[Cameroni]

13 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IIRC military doctrine says never fight a war on two fronts. Trump has chosen three.

 

US trade is only 12% of China's trade worldwide. It is also reaching out to other nations who are questioning whether alliances with the USA are worth anything.

 

Trump lost the last trade war with China, when the US trade was 18%. The fact he thinks he can win a second round is a measure of his delusion.

Only 400 billion, lol. 

 

But you're right, Trump lost the first trade war. China just went via Mexico and Canada. Impossible now. 

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2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Only 400 billion, lol. 

 

But you're right, Trump lost the first trade war. China just went via Mexico and Canada. Impossible now. 

You're forgetting his triumph in getting China to agree to purchase 200 billion more in goods from America...oh wait a minute...China didn't follow through on that either.

[Cameroni]

13 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You're forgetting his triumph in getting China to agree to purchase 200 billion more in goods from America...oh wait a minute...China didn't follow through on that either.

All good experience. One would expect suitable mechanisms in place with the next deal to ensure China keeps the terms of the agreement. Now that the diabolical promise breaking practices of the Chinese are well known. 

[Cameroni]

40 minutes ago, impulse said:

Aren't you guys betting against Trump tired of losing? 

 

For years, you've been betting he'll be in prison for Jan6.  Then it was NYC and 34 felonies.  Then it was Georgia.  And then when you lost those bets, you doubled down again on "he'll lose the election".

 

Now you're betting he'll lose the trade war. (Which has been going on for decades- he just decided to quit bending over)    I'd gladly take the other side of that bet, even though I disagree on a lot of his tariff rhetoric.  But not his goals.

 

Trump will win this second trade war. China is in too much trouble. The US has more bullets. 

[FlorC]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

'Complete meltdown': Top Pentagon staffers fired as 'chaos' engulfs Hegseth’s inner circle

Politico reported Friday that three senior Pentagon officials have now been fired as part of the leak investigation: Hegseth senior advisor Dan Caldwell, deputy chief of staff Darin Selnick and Colin Carroll — who was Deputy Defense Secretary Stephen Feinberg's chief of staff — have all been officially terminated. 

Additional firings may be announced soon. According to CBS senior White House reporter Jennifer Jacobs, "at least one uniformed Pentagon official" was also fired in addition to Hegseth's top aides.

 

Seems there is more to the story . Some internal fighting in the pentagon , using "leaks" to get them fired.

 

But it looks like they (the hawks and the Israeli lobby/AIPAC) are currently trying to get everyone opposed to war with Iran fired. On Wednesday a third official was escorted out of the Pentagon, with security credentials removed:

A third high-level Pentagon staffer has been placed on administrative leave in two days as part of a probe into media leaks.

Colin Carroll, chief of staff to Deputy Secretary of Defense Stephen Feinberg, was escorted out of the building on Wednesday, following Dan Caldwell, senior advisor to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, and Darin Selnick, deputy chief of staff to Hegseth. 

[Will B Good]

30 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She actually did that with me. Literally begged on her knees not to throw her out. Kissed my feet. Submitted sexually in many ways. Just so she could stay in Cayman with me. All of for nothing in the end. Poor girl. 

 

So read Putin for Cameroni and Trump for the Filipino gf?

[jas007]

2 hours ago, FlorC said:

3 unwinnable wars ??

 

3 unwinnable wars ? More like 3 battles , which he may win , at least one of them.

For all practical purposes, the Ukraine/Russia war is over, at least for the USA.  Either Zelenskyy signs on to Trump's proposed deal or the USA walks away.  And in any event, it's just a matter of time before Putin and Trump make an agreement.  So this war isn't one that Trump will have to fight.

 

The other two wars?  Neither are "winnable" by the USA.  I'm not sure Trump knows that, but he's certainly been told.  

[bubblegum]

So you are thinking the USA will get China on its knees. Hmm have a lood at BYD mage factory and tell me how the US is going to compete.

 

 

[rough diamond]

57 minutes ago, impulse said:

But not his goals.

How would you know what his goals are when he obviously has none except to hang on in there for as long as he can?

[FlorC]

5 minutes ago, jas007 said:

For all practical purposes, the Ukraine/Russia war is over, at least for the USA.  Either Zelenskyy signs on to Trump's proposed deal or the USA walks away.  And in any event, it's just a matter of time before Putin and Trump make an agreement.  So this war isn't one that Trump will have to fight.

 

The other two wars?  Neither are "winnable" by the USA.  I'm not sure Trump knows that, but he's certainly been told.  

You're right , but if you read the link in the OP , I think this is about : China, Harvard, and the Supreme Court.

That's why I wrote battles , not wars.

 

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

How would you know what his goals are when he obviously has none except to hang on in there for as long as he can?

 

What is unclear about MAGA?

 

 

[jas007]

1 minute ago, FlorC said:

You're right , but if you read the link in the OP , I think this is about : China, Harvard, and the Supreme Court.

That's why I wrote battles , not wars.

 

Sorry.  I just assumed we were discussing actual wars.  

 

If China, Harvard, and the Supreme Court are the issues, I think all of those are up in the air, although I strongly suspect that China will back down and make an agreement with Trump on the tariffs.  I haven't researched the Harvard matter or the issues involved, but if Trump is trying to treat Harvard any differently than other schools enrolling foreign students and so on, he may have a hard time with the Supreme Court, which is already questionable on some issues.  In other cases, the Supreme Court may be more reluctant to wade into what might be a political question.  

[rough diamond]

54 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She actually did that with me. Literally begged on her knees not to throw her out. Kissed my feet. Submitted sexually in many ways. Just so she could stay in Cayman with me. All of for nothing in the end. Poor girl. 

More of your dreaming and (lack of) imagination.

Can we get back to the truth from the realistic posters please!

[rough diamond]

46 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Trump will win this second trade war. China is in too much trouble. The US has more bullets. 

What have bullets got to do with a trade war unless you actually want a real war!.

Dollars and the renminbi or the Chinese yuan are what are being used in this trade war along with the currencies of the rest of the world.

[Will B Good]

51 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Trump will win this second trade war. China is in too much trouble. The US has more bullets. 

 

Only a 7% mismatch in trade, China has a booming economy and is the largest holder of US debt in the world.

 

The Chinese would be shooting themselves in the foot, but if they off loaded that debt the US would be wiped out.

[Tom100]

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