International Students Face Sudden Visa Revocations via email and told to self deport

[DD86]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 
There’s a clue in the OP Jonny, it’s nothing to do with Bangkok or the Thai Government.

 

LOL, first time I second a post from you. 👍

[riclag]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Exactly.

 

These old Lib farangs should try going out in Bangkok and protesting about the Thai government foreign policy for weeks on end. Putting on masks and intimidating others. What they get arrested, they can start crying about their human rights and freedom of speech. See how they like the floor of the IDC as they try to Crowdfund enough money for a flight home. 

 

If these "students" think the US is so terrible that they need to protest, they can go back to whatever dump they came from. See what their freedom of speech is like there. 

In layman’s terms!I get a warm fuzzy feeling down deep inside 

Knowing kids come from another country to learn , its Making America What America was, great!

 

I’d like to see more discussion groups, like Tp USA chapters on universitys

to circumvent the antiAmerican  academia teaching. Maybe this will

spread to other countries where the 

radical leftist govern.

 

Useful Idiots have taken over universities & college campuses!

Trump 47 agenda is dealing the indoctrinated  and their  future a crushing blow.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_Point_USA

[DD86]

11 minutes ago, ElwoodP said:

Flames removed.

@DD86 please stop now.

Sorry, got taken away. Hit reset button now.

[MicroB]

5 hours ago, FlorC said:

Why is this a bad thing ?

US uni's for US citizens.

Why do foreign students take the place of natives ?

Maybe it will make universities cheaper, less student debt.

And not so competitive to get in.

 

Because overseas students pay higher fees. In State students are heavily subsidised by everyone else. The vast majority of foreign students are self funded, at the highest rate, or are supported by grants or loans from their own governments. In this way, US universities are bringing in foreign cash into the US economy. International students add $44bn to the US economy, and support nearly 400,000 jobs.

https://www.aau.edu/newsroom/leading-research-universities-report/new-analysis-shows-international-students-contributed

 

The US Department of Commerce, when it was run by the 45th President, had broadly similar numbers in 2018

 

https://www.iie.org/research-initiatives/open-doors/economic-impact-of-international-students/

 

Higher Education is the 10th largest US export. Not only that, its an absolute force multiplier for US soft power.  Those international graduates, doctorates, MBAs return home, to assume senior roles in their countries, and most will have fond memories of their time in the US. The percentage staying (converting their non-immigrant visa to immigrant, which is very hard and mostly depends on an employer petitioning Labor) starts at 20% and increases with increasing qualification (as expected, viz. Elon Musk)

 

Sometimes the revenues of US universities can be pretty screwed up. I attended the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. On the face of it, it had fabulous facilities. But the library was facing budget problems. Normally, US university libraries are open 24 hours for access; students need it for all nighters, or for the so-called open boox exams which are a peculiar feature of US Higher Education (and tougher than what it sounds). So, they were running out of money and were forced to curtail opening hours and lay off staff. But the Atheltics Department saved them The Athletics Department, mostly because of the football team and track, had fantastic funding. Everyone on the football team was there on a scholarship, and the football team was really a business. Own accomodation, own chefs, and a student carpark full of top end cars, despite the students being of amateur status.

 

The department dug around and found the money to keep the lights on. But, its all the same university, and the library is a shared resource.

 

A shortfall in foreign student admissions, particularly the more lucrative postgraduate level, will likely see Universities see falls in revenues, and pressure to cut services or increase fees. I expect the move will cause fees for American students to increase, perhaps rendering higher education out of reach for most. This is not good if the US is expecting to reindustrialise, unless its expecting sweat shop factories as the future.

[MicroB]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Perhaps ICE would have kept hands off had the school officers done their jobs instead of standing by and watching protestors make it dangerous, if not impossible for the students who were there for an education.

 

 

You might be shocked about some of the so-called classes that American universities offer to earn degree credit. eg going to the gym., watching a slasher movie in the library. Mstly taken up by Americans from what I observed.

 

Of course, they were being educated in doing all these things, in a way that their peers in a British university aren't. When you go to university, much of what makes you the person you are when you leave isn't the classes you attend. I think for most people it does open their eyes not only to different ideas, opinions, but a wider world.

 

ICE are basically cops who failed the exam for the local sheriffs office. There have been so many reported cases that show they seem to lack basic common sense.  Most ICE agent roles only require a high school leaving certificate and a clean record, ie, can you read and write.

[rudi49jr]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

From your link: "sent in error"

 

I'm not making the claim but feel free to provide plenty more.

 

Which country would they self deport to if they were born in the US?

 

From your link: "sent in error"

 

I have no idea what that means.

 

I'm not making the claim but feel free to provide plenty more.

 

Nah, I think you're being obtuse on purpose, so I'm going to let you do your own research.

 

Which country would they self deport to if they were born in the US?

 

Again, seriously? That's what you take from this? US citizens are being told (threatened) to leave the country within 7 days, or else? You don't think that's way over the top? Some even felt so threatened that they hired a lawyer.

 

Two more examples.

 

A man who was born in Georgia was detained by ICE in Florida, probably because he had a Latino name, or because he looked Latino. His mother came down to show the judge his social security card and birth certificate, and still they wouldn't let him go.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-born-citizen-detained-ice-immigration-florida-rcna201800

 

ICE agents smashed the car window of the wrong guy, while his wife and young child were in the car.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ5YZQtJz7Y

 

The point is that ICE is overstepping its legal authority by miles and miles, and that ICE agents act like goons and thugs, because they know there will be no repercussions. As you can see in this thread, many don't give a toss about the constitutional rights of anyone they don't like, and they actually even approve of it when these rights are very obviously violated.

 

 

 

 

[riclag]

You want to come learn in my country ! You better have a outstanding social media presence! As I recall dealing with

the US embassy in 2022, they request you’re 

usernames on all Social media platforms.

 

The above is a Excellent Idea . The state department can revoke  you anytime .

 

 

Google ai:Yes, the U.S. State Department does play a role in the visa process.

 

[Bkk Brian]

13 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

 

From your link: "sent in error"

 

I have no idea what that means.

 

I'm not making the claim but feel free to provide plenty more.

 

Nah, I think you're being obtuse on purpose, so I'm going to let you do your own research.

 

Which country would they self deport to if they were born in the US?

 

Again, seriously? That's what you take from this? US citizens are being told (threatened) to leave the country within 7 days, or else? You don't think that's way over the top? Some even felt so threatened that they hired a lawyer.

 

Two more examples.

 

A man who was born in Georgia was detained by ICE in Florida, probably because he had a Latino name, or because he looked Latino. His mother came down to show the judge his social security card and birth certificate, and still they wouldn't let him go.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-born-citizen-detained-ice-immigration-florida-rcna201800

 

ICE agents smashed the car window of the wrong guy, while his wife and young child were in the car.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ5YZQtJz7Y

 

The point is that ICE is overstepping its legal authority by miles and miles, and that ICE agents act like goons and thugs, because they know there will be no repercussions. As you can see in this thread, many don't give a toss about the constitutional rights of anyone they don't like, and they actually even approve of it when these rights are very obviously violated.

 

 

 

 

You made a claim:

 

 

I addressed you on this as I had not seen that reported anywhere. You then proceed to provide a link to a US lawyer who recieved the letter in error when it should have been to her client. You have provided nothing else, telling me to do my own research then try to deflect you claim by changing the goal posts into "the point is...................." with articles on nothing to do with your previous claim.

 

Very Dishonest and I'm still waiting for a link to your claim

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Seriously, you don’t follow the news?

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/doctor-email-immigration-leave-country-rcna201698

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/15/self-deportation-email-citizen-immigration-lawyer
 

Plenty more examples, just google for 5 seconds.

 

   That was 1 mistake .

They addressed it to the Lawyer instead of the client .

It was once mistakenly sent to the boss of a company and you are using that one instance to make it appear American s citizens are being deported en masse ,

   Thats rather deceptive of you 

[dinsdale]

What happens here and in most countries when you break the rules of your visa? This seems to be something most if not all of the cackling idiot Harris supporters on here fail to mention.  

[rudi49jr]

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That was 1 mistake .

They addressed it to the Lawyer instead of the client .

It was once mistakenly sent to the boss of a company and you are using that one instance to make it appear American s citizens are being deported en masse ,

   Thats rather deceptive of you 

Yes, that’s me, Mr. Deceptive….

[rudi49jr]

9 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

What happens here and in most countries when you break the rules of your visa? This seems to be something most if not all of the cackling idiot Harris supporters on here fail to mention.  

Which visa rules are they breaking exactly? Don’t they have the right to free speech? Don’t they have the right to protest? 

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, rudi49jr said:

Yes, that’s me, Mr. Deceptive….

 

   People are not stupid .

*Americans citizens getting deported for speaking out against the Government* 

   No ones going to believe that , I don't know why you bother 

[josephbloggs]

42 minutes ago, riclag said:

You want to come learn in my country ! You better have a outstanding social media presence! As I recall dealing with

the US embassy in 2022, they request you’re 

usernames on all Social media platforms.

 

The above is a Excellent Idea . The state department can revoke  you anytime .

 

 

Google ai:Yes, the U.S. State Department does play a role in the visa process.

 

So you advocate deportation for opinions?  Having thought police is acceptable now? Can you even hear yourself?

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[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

So you advocate deportation for opinions?  Having thought police is acceptable now? Can you even hear yourself?

 

   For which opinion have people been deported for ?

What is this "opinion " that people keep referring to ?

What did they say ?

[josephbloggs]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   For which opinion have people been deported for ?

What is this "opinion " that people keep referring to ?

What did they say ?

Why don't you ask the person I was replying to who said The State Department should monitor your social media and revoke your visa if they don't like your opinions.

His name is riclag, feel free to contact him directly.
 

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You want to come learn in my country ! You better have a outstanding social media presence! As I recall dealing with

the US embassy in 2022, they request you’re 

usernames on all Social media platforms.

 

The above is a Excellent Idea . The state department can revoke  you anytime .

 

 

Google ai:Yes, the U.S. State Department does play a role in the visa process.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Why don't you ask the person I was replying to who said The State Department should monitor your social media and revoke your visa if they don't like your opinions.

His name is riclag, feel free to contact him directly.
 

 

OK

[Nick Carter icp]

55 minutes ago, riclag said:

You want to come learn in my country ! You better have a outstanding social media presence! As I recall dealing with

the US embassy in 2022, they request you’re 

usernames on all Social media platforms.

 

The above is a Excellent Idea . The state department can revoke  you anytime .

 

 

Google ai:Yes, the U.S. State Department does play a role in the visa process.

 

For which opinion have people been deported for ?

What is this "opinion " that people keep referring to ?

What did they say ?

[dinsdale]

Question: Should international students have the right to be activists in support of globally recognised terrorist organisations? Freedom of speech under the First Amendment has it's limitations.

[josephbloggs]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Question: Should international students have the right to be activists in support of globally recognised terrorist organisations? Freedom of speech under the First Amendment has it's limitations.

Question: should international students have the right to protest foreign government violence against civilians that has been condemned by the UN?

[thaipo7]

14 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

Again, Trump shoots America in the foot.

How??  Trump this, Trump that, but never a words to back up the claim.

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Question: should international students have the right to protest foreign government violence against civilians that has been condemned by the UN?

That does depend on the opinion. Where they express it and how they express it.Read the topics where this has been covered numerous times. Then read the OP to tell you when and why visas can be simply revoked.

[dinsdale]

21 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Question: should international students have the right to protest foreign government violence against civilians that has been condemned by the UN?

Protesting is one thing. Being an activist supporting a terrorist organisation is another. As I said free speech has it's limits.

[josephbloggs]

Just now, dinsdale said:

Protesting is one thing. Being an activist supporting a terrorist organisation is another. 

Protesting Israel's bombardment is not supporting a terrorist organisation, it is just protesting a brutal onslaught that has killed thousands of civilians. You can be against that and also not support terrorism you know. Guess what? I don't like the slaughter of civilians or the wholesale destruction of towns, but I am also against terrorism. The Hamas attack on October 7th was horrendous and gruesome in the extreme. Israel's response has been horrendous, disproportionate and gruesome in the extreme. See? It's not hard, we can condemn both if we are not blinkered by prejudice.

Why is a protest against Israeli military behaviour automatically supporting terrorism? It is such a childish and ridiculous thing to say.

[Bkk Brian]

16 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Protesting Israel's bombardment is not supporting a terrorist organisation, it is just protesting a brutal onslaught that has killed thousands of civilians. You can be against that and also not support terrorism you know. Guess what? I don't like the slaughter of civilians or the wholesale destruction of towns, but I am also against terrorism. The Hamas attack on October 7th was horrendous and gruesome in the extreme. Israel's response has been horrendous, disproportionate and gruesome in the extreme. See? It's not hard, we can condemn both if we are not blinkered by prejudice.

Why is a protest against Israeli military behaviour automatically supporting terrorism? It is such a childish and ridiculous thing to say.

Why don't they protest against Hamas holding the hostages so the war ends? 

 

Why do you ignore the protestors are not only doing that but also causing major disruption on private property and also many supporting the destruction of Israel and the US?

[Nick Carter icp]

8 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Protesting Israel's bombardment is not supporting a terrorist organisation, it is just protesting a brutal onslaught that has killed thousands of civilians. You can be against that and also not support terrorism you know. Guess what? I don't like the slaughter of civilians or the wholesale destruction of towns, but I am also against terrorism. The Hamas attack on October 7th was horrendous and gruesome in the extreme. Israel's response has been horrendous, disproportionate and gruesome in the extreme. See? It's not hard, we can condemn both if we are not blinkered by prejudice.

Why is a protest against Israeli military behaviour automatically supporting terrorism? It is such a childish and ridiculous thing to say.

 

   They were not just protesting about the Gaza war though , that isn't why they are having their visas revoked

[anotherexpat4444]

4 hours ago, biggles45 said:

Wouldn't this 'slaughter of the regular Palestinian people' stop if Hamas put down their weapons and stopped killing Israelis? Without a threat from Hamas, Israel has no need to continue it's aggression. A total ceasefire by Hamas could resolve the issue! 

China is killing its people for protesting .  America only removing  these Jihadis to wherever they come from .   why making a bit fuss about this . 

it is good  if no international students  .  these left leaning countries are poisoning the education system of USA  . qatari money , ccp money are never going to  teach patriotism 

[dinsdale]

22 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Protesting Israel's bombardment is not supporting a terrorist organisation, it is just protesting a brutal onslaught that has killed thousands of civilians. You can be against that and also not support terrorism you know. Guess what? I don't like the slaughter of civilians or the wholesale destruction of towns, but I am also against terrorism. The Hamas attack on October 7th was horrendous and gruesome in the extreme. Israel's response has been horrendous, disproportionate and gruesome in the extreme. See? It's not hard, we can condemn both if we are not blinkered by prejudice.

Why is a protest against Israeli military behaviour automatically supporting terrorism? It is such a childish and ridiculous thing to say.

Again I say there is a difference between being a protestor and being an activist.

[anotherexpat4444]

if you want to protest go to your own country and protest as much as you want .