Anti-vaxers relying on discredited doctor's claims about COVID vaccines... again!

[johng]

4 hours ago, xylophone said:

This won't please the above poster or the other conspiracy theorists on here..........

 

Yes I'm very displeased indeed..however without reading your article  I'll just say

they took the corona viruses from bats.. yes..  and then they genetically engineered them to produce a bioweapon..the fact or not that the original virus came from bats is irrelevant.

[johng]

6 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I am quite fascinated by the proposition long COVID can be distinguished as being caused by COVID itself, from that caused by so-called "vaccine injury". How could that be proved?.

 

Me too  if only the had kept meticulous records of  those who had taken the vax and those who did not and compared them to those who got  "long Covid"

we might have had a clue.

[FlorC]

56 minutes ago, johng said:

Unfortunately the US  has a standing order that any American extradited to the Hague for crimes  can be repatriated using military force...so  I think they US will have to try him themself  on US soil.

can be repatriated

 

Doesn't mean they will , especially in this case.

Good way to get rid of this mass murderer and torturer.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, johng said:

I think you'll find that both kill the virus.

Bleach certainly kills viruses. It also kills healthy cells, which is why suggesting it as a remedy for COVID is about as valid as suggesting cyanide.

 

There are multiple studies in countries indicating ivermectin is totally ineffective as a prophylactic against COVID.

[johng]

15 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

There are multiple studies in countries indicating ivermectin is totally ineffective as a prophylactic against COVID.

There are multiple studies indicating it is an affective antiviral , anti parasitic and also anti cancer.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, johng said:

There are multiple studies indicating it is an affective antiviral , anti parasitic and also anti cancer.

It's an effective anti-parasitic.

 

I'll bet not one of the studies as an anti-viral or anti-cancer treatment have got past peer review.

[Red Phoenix]

10 hours ago, Lacessit said:

It's an effective anti-parasitic.

I'll bet not one of the studies as an anti-viral or anti-cancer treatment have got past peer review.

You would lose your bet...

[Bert got kinky]

[johng]

Your son was vaccinated   he now has Covid  !

I want a second opinion

You are an idiot !

[Lacessit]

7 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

You would lose your bet...

Post the peer-reviewed study.

[richard_smith237]

On 5/7/2025 at 2:40 PM, rattlesnake said:

 

A word on virologist Dr. Robert Redfield, who served as the director of the CDC during the Covid crisis, who claims that reports of so-called "Long Covid" are actually a cover-up for mRNA vaccine injury?

 

Since leaving his federal government position at the end of President Donald Trump’s first term in January 2021, Redfield has focused on treating patients in his medical practice.

He explains in the interview that his surgery is flooded with patients who have been led to believe they have “Lond Covid.”

However, he notes that the vast majority of those patients are actually suffering from an injury caused by the Covid mRNA “vaccine” they received.

 

https://slaynews.com/news/ex-cdc-director-long-covid-mrna-vaccine-injury/

 

Dr. Robert Redfield, publicly expressed concerns about the side effects of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines and the implementation of vaccine mandates. He criticised the broad application of vaccine mandates, suggesting that vaccinations should have been prioritised for older and more vulnerable populations rather than mandated for all, including healthy individuals and children.

 

In interviews, Dr. Redfield discussed observing patients who are ill without having had COVID-19, implying that their conditions may be related to vaccine side effects.

 

He has emphasised the need for transparency regarding vaccine side effects and has advocated for more systematic research into vaccines .

 

However, while Dr. Redfield has raised concerns about vaccine side effects, there is no verifiable evidence that he has claimed "Long Covid" is a cover-up for mRNA vaccine injuries. Reports making such claims often originate from sources that may not adhere to rigorous journalistic standards. Mainstream scientific consensus maintains that Long Covid is a legitimate condition resulting from COVID-19 infection, characterised by a range of symptoms persisting after the acute phase of the illness.

 

In summary, Dr. Redfield has voiced concerns about vaccine mandates and the need for transparency regarding vaccine side effects. However, attributing statements to him that Long Covid is a cover-up for vaccine injuries lacks substantiation from credible sources.

[Photoguy21]

I think the big thing to come out of the vaccines was the reports to the SEC. In them it was clear that the vaccines had not been properly tested and any vaccine normally would be. With that in mind who is going to act as a lab rat again?

[johng]

59 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Post the peer-reviewed study.

Do your own research !!!

[richard_smith237]

7 hours ago, johng said:

Your son was vaccinated   he now has Covid  !

I want a second opinion

You are an idiot !

 

Speaking of idiots .. it is often said that every village has its idiot, yet some villages seem to be missing theirs entirely.

 

Those very idiots must surely gather in a village of the “missing idiots” - a place that, ironically, is itself lacking its own missing idiot.

 

And here you are, alive and well, polluting this thread with your anti-vaccination drivel....

[johng]

Just now, Photoguy21 said:

With that in mind who is going to act as a lab rat again?

 

Well certainly not me  If I have any say in the matter,  but as we saw  they will do everything they can to take away the choice..I'm still amazed that a large percentage think that forced "vaccination"  with a novel therapeutic  is or was

acceptable  especially given the IFR  of Covid  being less than  1 percent.

[johng]

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

And here you are, alive and well, polluting this thread with your anti-vaccination drivel....

Yes very much alive thanks..much to your disappointment it would seem.

 

Right back at you ,you are polluting this thread with your drivel.

 

Care to reply to the facts  you got the vaccine and yet you still got the virus ?

isn't the vaccine supposed to stop you getting the thing ??

 

[rattlesnake]

22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Dr. Robert Redfield, publicly expressed concerns about the side effects of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines and the implementation of vaccine mandates. He criticised the broad application of vaccine mandates, suggesting that vaccinations should have been prioritised for older and more vulnerable populations rather than mandated for all, including healthy individuals and children.

 

In interviews, Dr. Redfield discussed observing patients who are ill without having had COVID-19, implying that their conditions may be related to vaccine side effects.

 

He has emphasised the need for transparency regarding vaccine side effects and has advocated for more systematic research into vaccines .

 

However, while Dr. Redfield has raised concerns about vaccine side effects, there is no verifiable evidence that he has claimed "Long Covid" is a cover-up for mRNA vaccine injuries. Reports making such claims often originate from sources that may not adhere to rigorous journalistic standards. Mainstream scientific consensus maintains that Long Covid is a legitimate condition resulting from COVID-19 infection, characterised by a range of symptoms persisting after the acute phase of the illness.

 

In summary, Dr. Redfield has voiced concerns about vaccine mandates and the need for transparency regarding vaccine side effects. However, attributing statements to him that Long Covid is a cover-up for vaccine injuries lacks substantiation from credible sources.

 

 

46:40:
"I don't think the vaccine industry should have immunity. I think they should have responsibility like any other manufacturer of any other product for their product and I'm particularly concerned about this now because, you know, my clinical practice right now which I'm still in two half days a week, is largely Covid and Long Covid, but among my, quote, "Long Covid" patients are people that don't have long covid but they have mRNA vaccine injury, right, and there's not a clear path for them to have their injury recognized…"

 

Now put this into perspective with what he stated during a Senate hearing last year: he does not administer the mRNA shots in his own practice because he believes the Spike proteins they contain are “toxic to the body” and "the mRA was persisting much longer than it should" in some patients. He confirmed it crosses the blood-brain barrier and that the jabs don't prevent infection and have side effects which were hidden by the authorities.

 

https://rumble.com/v56ws2r-sen.-ron-johnson-with-cdc-former-cdc-director-dr.-robert-redfield.html

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, johng said:

Care to reply to the facts  you got the vaccine and yet you still got the virus ?

isn't the vaccine supposed to stop you getting the thing ??

 

That alone highlights how little you know - It's why I won't bother to entertain your comments seriously.

 

[johng]

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

I won't bother to entertain your comments seriously.

Well up to you as they say in sunny Thailand ,also sticks and stones...

on an internet forum don't hurt me.

 

I think that you just don't have an answer

because its clear that these "vaccines" do not do what they said on the tin   and they even had to change the definition of a vaccine to try and fool people to accept them...they fooled you right ?