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New Report Reveals Hawk pilot Capt. Rebecca Lobach did not comply with critical directions


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Posted
1 hour ago, Presnock said:

yeah and based on this latest report, I even wonder why checkout flights were ever allowed in such areas.  The pilot obviuosly didn't pay attention to the "turn" and yeah the altitude problem with the helicopter sure didn't help either.

Waaaay to congested airspace for check out/training it was an unfortunate tragic incident the sex of the pilot in itself has no bearing or meaning just another horrible accident not the first nor the last.

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7 minutes ago, Purdey said:

I bet no one knows how many men have crashed helicopters.

When flying in extremely congested airspace wearing those night vision goggles/ horse binders……but ok go ahead brave men beat up on a dead service member patriot she’s dead so it’s safe …….just sad.I for one grieve ALL the dead am angered they would be flying choppers across the final approach to a busy airport.im certainly not onboard attacking the responsible pilot on account of their sex.

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3 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

Why military helicopters were allowed on the the flight path of ;planes near commercial airports, is in itself a mystery!

 

In fairness, they were drilling on evacuating VIP politicians if SHTF under those conditions.  Which means practicing in DC, around the DC airport.  Because that's where they keep the VIP politicians.

 

Edit:  I'd say that I'm surprised that they'd tap a pilot with only 450 hours for that assignment.  But she did tick the box.  And she had apparently worked directly for Biden.  Probably had Dr Jill's seal of approval.  Where have we heard that one?

 

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3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I don't know about you, but I want them to take the lessons learned so this NEVER happens again.  Even if that reflects poorly on anyone involved, dead or alive.  Or on any policy that may have contributed to the death of over 60 innocent people.

 

+1 on that I just take umbrage at the DEI nonsense attacking someone on account of their sex a horrific tragedy and hopefully lessons learned.

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Posted
4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Well this is a massive failure, either on the part of air traffic control, the helicopter crew, or a third party. I hear that Reagan Airport airspace is incredibly congested, and they should have systems in place to prevent these kinds of occurrences. It never should have happened. 

They do have systems in place to prevent these types of incidences. The OP clearly states the woman did not comply with instructions given.. Perhaps she thought she knew better haha... This is what we get when people are forced to include a certain number of DEI into the ranks. 

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12 minutes ago, thesetat said:

They do have systems in place to prevent these types of incidences. The OP clearly states the woman did not comply with instructions given.. Perhaps she thought she knew better haha... This is what we get when people are forced to include a certain number of DEI into the ranks. 

Actually the MALE flight engineer was supposed to be a 3rd set of eyes…..tell ya what why don’t you vomit that nonsense to senator Tammie duckworth ehh she would still tear you to pieces even without her legs lost flying combat for our country and I might add her ancestry is Thai…..just sad 😞 

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1 hour ago, Tug said:

Actually the MALE flight engineer was supposed to be a 3rd set of eyes…..tell ya what why don’t you vomit that nonsense to senator Tammie duckworth ehh she would still tear you to pieces even without her legs lost flying combat for our country and I might add her ancestry is Thai…..just sad 😞 

How many women actually listen to a man? Especially in a stress situation. I am sure the air traffic controller was a man also that she was not listening to. She was in control of the craft. It does not matter what anyone else said or did not say. She did not listen or comply with critical instructions which caused the crash killing so many. 

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Posted
7 hours ago, deadbeat said:

Another dei failure.

She must have passed her flying exams to the required standard.  This was an annual flight evaluation, so she was a qualified pilot.  The fact that's she female is irrelevant, there should have been no allowances made to her based on gender (if there was then those accountable should be held to account).  If she was incompetent throughout her entire career (and it seems she was incompetent in this instance).  There's been no evidence that I've seen of her ongoing incompetence, including not being good enough to get her wings.   The investigation will uncover her piloting record and it'll likely become public domain.  Aviation accidents usually get looked into in such a depth that pretty much everything and anything will come out.

 

But yeah, I expect there's a a lot in this that if money wasn't wasted on DEI 💩 then all these people would still be with their familes.  Money spent on DEI isn't being spent on procedures, training and systems that would have avoided this crash.  Money spend on useless layers of management isn't being spent on procedures, training and systems that would have avoided this crash.

 

This was an accident waiting to happen; a completely avoidable accident.  Apparently there had been 100s of incidents around this airport that should have been acted upon, but were not, and the procedures were not changed when they should have been.  Although it's easy to blame the pilot, I think it's better blame the pilot AND investigate why she was put into this position in the first place.  DEI is a convenient excuse, but I'm not swallowing that; the root cause in my opinion is far deeper within the culture of the FAA than just the easy 'out' of blaming the woman.  "Safety First" seems not to exist in the FAA.

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