Almost Refused Entry at Chiang Mai Airport -Be Warned! - 2nd Visa Exemption

[Liverpool Lou]

20 hours ago, falangUK said:

Hardly any foreigners are coming into the country anymore

Nonsense.  The reality is that millions of foreigners are coming into Thailand; remember, this is not the high season for visitors.

[Liverpool Lou]

20 hours ago, falangUK said:

COVID destroyed the tourism industry — it’s like they haven’t learned a thing.

Covid temporarily destroyed everything, worldwide, it has nowhere near "destroyed the Thai tourism industry" permanently.

[falangUK]

18 minutes ago, grain said:

A farang from the UK, not allowed to work in Thailand, not ever going to get an benefits or any support or free housing or free medical. Entitled to absolutely nothing. All he'll do is spend spend spend. And they get uppity about you coming in too often to spend your money and get ripped off, and pay the foreigner price. Just imagine running a business along those line. A man walks into a pub and gets stopped at the door by the bouncer. 

"What do you want?"

"I want to come in the pub. Have a meal and have a few drinks"

"No you're coming here too often. I saw you in here a couple of days ago. And you were in here last week too. Sorry you're coming here too often now. We don't want you coming back here and spending your money." 😄

This is exactly the beef I have with it — it’s business, plain and simple. These people turn customers away as if they can afford to. I haven’t earned a single penny in Thailand, but I've spent several million over the years.  

Imagine that: you’re there to spend your money, to support their bloody business, and yet they treat you like a nuisance. No benefits, no support, no handouts — just spending and contributing — and they still have the nerve to act like they’re doing you a favour. Total madness.

[sqwakvfr]

4 minutes ago, falangUK said:

This is exactly the beef I have with it — it’s business, plain and simple. These people turn customers away as if they can afford to. I haven’t earned a single penny in Thailand, but I've spent several million over the years.  

Imagine that: you’re there to spend your money, to support their bloody business, and yet they treat you like a nuisance. No benefits, no support, no handouts — just spending and contributing — and they still have the nerve to act like they’re doing you a favour. Total madness.

That sound like "Thai Logic" to me? 

[Nick Carter icp]

20 hours ago, falangUK said:

Honestly just surprised it happened at CNX (Chiang Mai Airport).

 

  CNX used to be an easy entrance , passengers were let in no questions asked .

   Then many people began posting online about it :"CM is easy" Go to CM and they let you in"

   CM then clamed down 

[falangUK]

14 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Nonsense.  The reality is that millions of foreigners are coming into Thailand; remember, this is not the high season for visitors.

Many millions are not coming, for various reasons. Even the Chinese are avoiding the place. Do you realise that even during the so-called high season, very few actually turned up — and even fewer stayed?

[falangUK]

4 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

That sound like "Thai Logic" to me? 

That's because it is 🤣

[Nick Carter icp]

17 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Are they still doing the 2 visa exempts entries per year rule?

 

   No, that rule doesn't exist anymore . 

 

[falangUK]

21 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Nonsense.  The reality is that millions of foreigners are coming into Thailand; remember, this is not the high season for visitors.

Oh, absolutely—because nothing says “welcome” like being charged double for the same mango sticky rice, or being enveloped in a cloud of cannabis while navigating an outdated bureaucracy. If you're keen to delve deeper into the myriad reasons why Thailand's tourism charm is waning, here's a rather enlightening read 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Early March I came back from a one month trip to LA. I am on the 2nd year of an OA VIsa with a Multi Re entry permit. My End of Stay is not for another 11 months.  Yes I got lucky with a female IO at the entry counter after gettiing off a flight from Incheon S. Korea. I spent 10 minutes in front this IO as she looked at just  every page of my passport.  I had also presented my boarding pass and mandatory OA Health Insurance document but she was not interested in those. She then asked me "where is your visa?".  I pointed to the page with my valid reentry permit.  She then went back to looking at my passport pages.  At the end of 10 minutes of looking she looked up and said "do fingerprints again".  She then stamped me in and waved me through.  First time I have had this kind of entry experience at CNX airport.  Makes me wonder???

What did you expect her to do, just wave you through without checking?   What you are reporting is that she checked your passport and then stamped you in.

[Liverpool Lou]

It's amazing that so many AN posters seem to expect to be stamped in in with hardly any checks and an immediate express service even though they know what the IOs job is.  Why the entitled attitude? 

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, zzzzz said:

NEVER, ever use a young female IO 
They are trying to score points and show how efficient they are
always go for male IO's 

Cobblers.  No one has posted here about female IOs doing anything but their job, no reports about female IOs unjustifiably denying entry on this thread...unless you've got a specific personal experience to relate, of course.

[ChaiyaTH]

They have razzia's on arrival in CM since a few days it seems, when I arrived this was happening full speed too. This while it is like the lowest and most quiet season in CM itself, it's not exactly smart. Even those that were not hassled clearly saw how others were treated and not risking that for a second trip.

[falangUK]

44 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

Only certain types are restricted to "only your passport country" - the Multiple-Entry Tourist Visas and "Non-OA" are among those.   The 5-year DTV, single-entry Tourist-Visas, Non-Ed, and Non-O based on Retirement or Marriage - all can be obtained in other countries. 

Thank you very much. So, I can apply for a SETV while in Thailand, or do I have to leave the country? I’m guessing the latter, but it’s good news since I won’t have to go back to the UK.

[falangUK]

44 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

Only certain types are restricted to "only your passport country" - the Multiple-Entry Tourist Visas and "Non-OA" are among those.   The 5-year DTV, single-entry Tourist-Visas, Non-Ed, and Non-O based on Retirement or Marriage - all can be obtained in other countries. 

Thank you very much. So, I can apply for a SETV while in Thailand, or do I have to leave the country? I’m guessing the latter, but it’s good news since I won’t have to go back to the UK.

[ChaiyaTH]

6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Cobblers.  No one has posted here about female IOs doing anything but their job, no reports about female IOs unjustifiably denying entry on this thread...unless you've got a specific personal experience to relate, of course.

You are the one who seems to defend them while you clearly not travel much, if you saw how they were treating people you would not state this. They were quite stupid too accusing people of did having applied for a Laos visa, not knowing you get those on arrival same as Cambodia.

 

They also act contradictory to the actual immigration laws by implementing these own made rules at immigration entry points, as well as embassies and consulates. For example a non-o now requires 400k baht already to get the single entry visa, while this is only in reality needed for a yearly extension. It also goes against the UN convention child rights that Thailand committed too. 

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

They were refusing entry to every single person I saw during that time.

Really?  How could you know that without interviewing them all, where you standing alongside "every single person" getting stamped in?

[ChaiyaTH]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Really?  How could you know that without interviewing them all, where you standing alongside "every single person" getting stamped in?

There are tables setup, everyone can see it. Stop talking sht if you not even travel yourself... 

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, falangUK said:

surely they realize when there are more immigration officers than foreigners entering the country?

Cobblers...again.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Rob Browder said:

many reports at the Bangkok airports of them ignoring you "checked all the boxes" - refusing to even look at your paperwork / money - and denying-entry, regardless.

Could you be specific about some of your alleged "many entry denials regardless of everything being in order", please?

[Liverpool Lou]

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[Rob Browder]

34 minutes ago, falangUK said:

Thank you very much. So, I can apply for a SETV while in Thailand, or do I have to leave the country? I’m guessing the latter, but it’s good news since I won’t have to go back to the UK.

You must apply while in the country where you are applying, and stay there until you get your visa.  Not ideal, but worth it for a DTV.  I would not bother for a SETV - just use a visa-run company for visa-exempt entry, next time - at least unless/until Visa-Exempt goes back to 30-days. 

 

Even with a "tourist visa," you could still get denied-entry for "You spend too much time/money in Thailand as a tourist, without paying us off via an agent."

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, falangUK said:

I haven’t earned a single penny in Thailand, but I've spent several million over the years.  

Imagine that: you’re there to spend your money, to support their bloody business, and yet they treat you like a nuisance. No benefits, no support, no handouts — just spending and contributing — and they still have the nerve to act like they’re doing you a favour.

They are doing you a favour; as a foreigner you do not have the right to be here, you chose to come here knowing all the rules with which we all have to comply, no one forced you.  What ducking "benefits handouts and support" are you expecting?

[Rob Browder]

8 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Could you be specific about some of your alleged "many entry denials regardless of everything being in order", please?

Do you read this forum regularly?  IOs have literally waived-away those trying to present their list of the required items - money, etc. 

 

They say, "You come too much" - then they break their own laws, by stamping a LIE reason in the passport for why they denied entry - "not having funds" - after refusing to look at the person trying to present the required funds.    

 

It's a racket - pay them via their agent, or play the denied-entry-fear lottery.  That's their game.

[Liverpool Lou]

59 minutes ago, falangUK said:

Do you realise that even during the so-called high season, very few actually turned up — and even fewer stayed?

Want to quote some of those "very few" numbers?

[Liverpool Lou]

41 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

45 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Cobblers.  No one has posted here about female IOs doing anything but their job, no reports about female IOs unjustifiably denying entry on this thread...unless you've got a specific personal experience to relate, of course.

You are the one who seems to defend them while you clearly not travel much, if you saw how they were treating people you would not state this.

How about some evidence, then, about how they were treated...and why, of course?

[Rob Browder]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

They are doing you a favour; as a foreigner you do not have the right to be here, you chose to come here knowing all the rules with which we all have to comply, no one forced you.  What ducking "benefits handouts and support" are you expecting?

What rules, specifically?  As an example, please link to the Thai Immigration website, where it lists the precise number of "days out of Thailand" between Visa-Exempt entries, after which there will be No Problem re-entering.  7 days?  30-days?  Golly, I wonder why that information isn't provided? 

 

Answer: Thai Immigration Law specifies no "maximum number" of days one can spend in Thailand as a tourist.  Thai Immigration Law also specifies that immigration may ONLY refuse-entry if a person is in violation of very specific reasons - not a blanket "at their discretion." 

 

This is why you cannot find a single case of a refused-entry passport stamped "Spent too much time in Thailand as a Tourist" - because denying entry for that reason IS ILLEGAL under Thai law.  IOs don't want to confess to the crime they commit in writing, apparently, so they "stamp" a Lie, instead.

We are doing Thailand a favor by spending our money into their economy - directly funding their citizens' paychecks.  This creates no risk to them of benefits/handouts (unlike if they enter our countries).  Those who break Thai law can be arrested, deported and banned = problem solved.

 

Unless the visitor is from a country where the min-wage is less than an illegal-job in Thailand, there is no logical reason to prevent entry, absent a criminal record. 

All the hassling is about one thing only - brown envelopes.

[Sorted2024]

Struggling with part of your assessment 

 

 "Mentally prepare for being treated like a criminal, even if your paperwork is perfect."

 

Unless the fact that they were checking through your required documents makes you feel like a criminal 

[Nick Carter icp]

21 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What is the reason you are staying in Thailand ?

 

   Why would 4 people downvote that question ?

He was asking which visa he can get and I was asking why he is staying in Thailand and thus he can get a visa for that reason .

   Why would anyone downvote that question ? 🤔

[DrJack54]

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