President Zelensky....Master of the Deal!

[frank83628]

6 minutes ago, thaichina said:

That s what Don Jr is doing

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/28/donald-trump-jr-private-members-club-executive-branch.html

 

No question, everyone can see what it is...

That is not being on the board of burisma or any ukranian energy company..... the is what's your guy quickly sqeak as 'deflection'

[Tug]

8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You havent read it and you hate your own country, so take the above for what is worth

You are mistaken on my hating my country it is my speaking out for my country against trump the threat to democracy that shows my love of country.

[frank83628]

8 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

TBH, I don't really care who was the first to propose it, suggest it, hint at it, manipulate it, or fold it into a paper airplane. If it gets the war over with, I am for it.  This should really rise beyond political fukkery.

If trump claimed credit they say it was a crap deal and he <deleted>s on Ukraine, if Zman claims credit, they'll all say it is a great deal and he ran rings around Trump

[Tug]

Just now, frank83628 said:

If trump claimed credit they say it was a crap deal and he <deleted>s on Ukraine, if Zman claims credit, they'll all say it is a great deal and he ran rings around Trump

Trump should have stepped up to the plate from the beginning instead he did EVERYTHING HE could to throw the brave Ukrainian nation under the bus all stop!🛑 if you can’t see or understand that simple fact you sir are suspect.

[Atlantic Cod]

Nothing will happen unless there is a peace deal and that is very unlikely so just hypothetical, optics, who cares...

[Atlantic Cod]

Nothing will happen unless there is a peace deal and that is very unlikely so just hypothetical, optics, who cares...

[MicroB]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Nope, Ive lived in Thailand long time. 

 

So not serving the Motherland, and letting your fellow citizens do all the dying.

 

How does one renew a Russian passport when one is evading mobilisation?

[frank83628]

7 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

So not serving the Motherland, and letting your fellow citizens do all the dying.

 

How does one renew a Russian passport when one is evading mobilisation?

Not supposed to discuss other members, part of the forum rules 

[frank83628]

21 minutes ago, Tug said:

Trump should have stepped up to the plate from the beginning instead he did EVERYTHING HE could to throw the brave Ukrainian nation under the bus all stop!🛑 if you can’t see or understand that simple fact you sir are suspect.

Proved my point perfectly

[candide]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So your man sharp as a tack Biden(with a history of corruption in Ukraine through family links to Burisma), who opened the chequebook with no plan to end the war, just wasting money hand over fist for years = good and a win.

 

Trump getting some $$ in return for the US's assistance in ending the war and delivering peace  = bad and a loss.

 

Think I understand.

Making up stuff about Joe Biden, as usual....

 

FD-1023 anyone? 🤣

[SMIAI]

Quote

Under the terms of the deal announced on Wednesday, Ukraine and the US will establish a joint Reconstruction Investment Fund.

The fund will be controlled by a company with "equal representation of three Ukrainian and three American board members," the US Treasury Department said in a statement.

The agreement covers 57 types of resources, including oil and gas.

If the US decides to buy the resources, they will be given "first choice to either acquire them or designate the purchaser of our choice," the Treasury Department said.

The new fund "will receive 50 per cent of royalties, license fees, and other similar payments from natural resource projects in Ukraine," according to the US Treasury.

Its profits will be invested exclusively in Ukraine for the first 10 years, after which profits "may be distributed between the partners," Kyiv said.

 

The deal is not yet ratified. Perhaps in a few months.

[Purdey]

Not sure who proved Joe Biden guilty of corruption. 

PolitiFact | Fact-checking Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and Ukraine

"We found no evidence to support the idea that Joe Biden advocated with his son's interests in mind, as the message suggests. It's not even clear that the company was actively under investigation or that a change in prosecutors benefited it."

[SunnyinBangrak]

21 minutes ago, candide said:

Making up stuff about Joe Biden, as usual....

 

FD-1023 anyone? 🤣

Those dirty 30 million dollars just fell into the web of 28LLCs which magically formed themselves. I know. Happens to all of us Im sure.

 Credibility and virginity my friend. Once you lost it, it's gone.

[candide]

Back to the future!

 

Memorandum of Understanding between the European Union and Ukraine on a Strategic Partnership on Raw Materials I. Introduction / (2021)

 

https://ec.europa.eu/docsroom/documents/46300/attachments/1/translations/en/renditions/native&ved=2ahUKEwiY-s64noSNAxUdKvsDHZmxMQ0QFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0QvI7LLRgp8TMw3PMhmf-r

[impulse]

So does Zelensky get to keep Crimea and Donbass?

 

I don't think so. 

 

Edit:  More accurately, will he be getting them back?   Because you can't "keep" something you don't have.

 

[simple1]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Pretty sure if don Jr was on the board of burisma @ 50k a month you'd be asking all sorts of questions, as would the media... instead there is silence

 

Well known trump and Co are corrupt, so it would be no surprise whatever. Recent example with not a squeak from MAGA.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2025/04/17/donald-trump-eric-dominari-holdings-advisory-board-3-million-stock/

[candide]

12 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Those dirty 30 million dollars just fell into the web of 28LLCs which magically formed themselves. I know. Happens to all of us Im sure.

 Credibility and virginity my friend. Once you lost it, it's gone.

Good comparison. Same as the FD-1023 allegations by the GOP committee, which was ultimately found to be from a Russian agent. Comer lost all credibility, my friend! It's gone! 🤣

[scorecard]

3 hours ago, Mavideol said:

unfortunately Trump will claiming the credit for something he didn't, anyway, that's not a first and not a last from him

Sure but it reaffirms to me to not believe anything he says.

[Mavideol]

Trump =0  Zelensky = 1.... there you get it, the master of nothing has nothing to show to the world and when somebody challenges him or fact check him he looses control and goes on a rant

 

A Clip Of Donald Trump Getting Angry After Being Fact-Checked Is Going Mega Viral, And It Sums Up His Entire Presidency In A Nutshell

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/clip-donald-trump-getting-angry-154858197.html

[candide]

13 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

Trump =0  Zelensky = 1.... there you get it, the master of nothing has nothing to show to the world and when somebody challenges him or fact check him he looses control and goes on a rant

 

A Clip Of Donald Trump Getting Angry After Being Fact-Checked Is Going Mega Viral, And It Sums Up His Entire Presidency In A Nutshell

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/clip-donald-trump-getting-angry-154858197.html

Trump is lying like a rug, as usual! 

[connda]

"The corrupt mofo I voted for is a saint!"
😠 "No, he's the devil.  The corrupt mofo I voted for is a saint."
"No, he/she/it is the devil."

They are all corrupt.  <laughs>

[Cryingdick]

7 hours ago, BLMFem said:

So you feel the sisterhood?

Funny comment coming from a white, male, senior citizen in its latest online iteration. You go GUrlL!!!!

[BLMFem]

11 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Funny comment coming from a white, male, senior citizen in its latest online iteration. You go GUrlL!!!!

Why, thank you, dick,😘

[Cryingdick]

Just now, BLMFem said:

Why, thank you, dick,😘

You know it girlfriend I feel ya. 

[Mo Sawadee]

8 hours ago, xylophone said:

So a deal has been struck between the US and Ukraine, and the deal involves minerals (rare earths) and oil in the main, and poor old trump has been outplayed.

 

Initially trump wanted around $350 billion from Ukraine for the "support" that they had already given, but Zelensky wanted a deal which didn't involve payments of large sums, but did involve payment in kind via their vast resources of minerals; this especially after trump's disastrous tariffs on China ensured that they were going to cease rare earth exports to the US, therefore jeopardising many of the vital industries in the US.

 

It's highly likely that Trump's cabal of wealthy industrialists urged him to strike this deal once they knew that the Chinese were not going to supply the rare earths any more, or at least jeopardise any future arrangements they had hoped for.

 

So the US has opted for the very same terms which Zelensky took to the White House those few weeks ago before he was bullied by Trump and Vance, so it's a win for Zelensky and Ukraine.

 

Not only that, it changes the whole scenario because once the US has a vested interest in Ukraine's mineral wealth and invests money to realise it, then any attacks by Russia could be seen as an act of aggression against the US therefore moving the conflict closer to trump versus Putin, with Zelensky watching from the sidelines – – what a master stroke.

 

Very happy for Ukraine and its people and no matter what trump goobers may say, Zelensky has been playing chess whilst trump has been playing checkers, or even tiddlywinks!!!

 

A big win for Ukraine and President Zelensky!

Big win… he went from paying nothing to providing something. 😂 The previous Administration was incompetent! It’s an improvement for the American people.